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marshall said:

Thank you for this statement!

Lawrence Smaggron said:

Yvonne, did you hear that?

mrproduce said:

Hmmmm. Went back through March to see if Yvonne called anyone any derogatory names, including myself since we often disagree, and outside of calling a few politicians, stupid or ignorant and a few nicer names, I haven't found where she has been involved in name calling. Can you show me where?

LarryPintoKroger said:

Mr. Produce,

You are one of the more articulate, reasoned and logical contributors to this little forum. Don't know that Yvonne has called anyone names but she has said numerous times that anyone who takes issue with her Democratic talking points is an uncaring sub-human( er, Republican ). We became accustomed to being called Nazi's before, during and after the the election so she is free to continue the veiled suggestions. Quite frankly she has become a bore and her incoherent thoughts are staler than 10 day old bread. Peace.

steve said:

Does this mean we have to actually care about the issues?

Yvonne said:

I have not personally attacked anyone in this public forum and I have never insinuated that anyone is "sub-human, Nazi or uncaring" although I have personally been called worse in this forum. As the editor said, offer your opinion but also offer any proof you might have. I challange you, Larry Pintokroger, to produce any posts I have made in which I attacked someone personally.

I do not call people stupid or ignorant. I recently posted saying I do not think people themselves are stupid or ignorant; that I believe only behaviors possess those characteristics.

You, Larry Pintokroger, like some others who disagree with MY views, have been less than truthful about what I have posted.

As Brian once said, if you don't want to read my posts, simply use the scroll "thingy" on the right side of your computer screen. Because I will tell you now, as long as I have the privilege of joining in the discussions I choose to participate in, I will.

mrproduce said:

I do not call people stupid or ignorant. I recently posted saying I do not think people themselves are stupid or ignorant; that I believe only behaviors possess those characteristics.

Sorry Yvonne, that is what I was infering. I believe you did refer to one or several politician(s) as having some ignorant or stupid ideas which is fine with me as I agree that many politicians have stupid and or ignorant ideas.

As I said, we don't always agree but you have been most civil in your disagreement not only with me but many others.

You do seem to provoke some folks though don't ya. Well I guess I do too but then that sounds more like a personal problem than a blog problem.

mr t said:

Actually, there are a lot of folks that stop in from time to time who are rude, sarcastic, arrogant, etc. And all of us have our moments when we come across the wrong way. That often happens when discussing religion, politics, racism and other controversial topics. So what?

govtwriter said:

Well, that's one of the drawbacks of this sort of anonymous style of communication -- inflections are lost, facial expressions can't be gauged etc., so people can easily misinterpret and/or misunderstand what you mean.

Lilly said:

So in other words, you are censoring people's opinions.. and to call a spade a spade is not politically correct or somehow offensive.. ok I see...

mrproduce said:

Don't seem to me like anybody is censoring anybody. Just saying we need to mind our manners a bit and say what we got on our minds in a civil manner. That means without calling people ugly names and such. I think for the most part folks have managed to speak their piece without having to be PC. Heck I sure am not one of the PC kind of folks but then I have never been. Guess Uncle Sam taught me not to be. But he did teach me how to call a LTCOL a SOB as long as I smiled and said Sir before and after I called him a SOB. I think we can sorta do the same thing on here only without calling somebody a SOB. Worded the right way one can get the drift. Ya get my drift?

Joe Killian said:

Wow. This has quickly degenerated, hasn't it?

I'm relatively new to blogging - but I think on the whole it attracts people who LIKE to squabble with one another on their keyboards and have no intention of being nice about it. Also, I find bloggers themselves aren't likely to cite their sources or fact-check the things they put out there - it's certainly good to ask that those posting replies or comments do that, but it may be a bit much to hope for in this sort of setting.

steve said:

Last week gave me a glimpse of the most beautiful woman I've ever seen. My heart pounded at the hope of her allowing me even into her peripheral vision. She never looked once. The reason, I am positive, is due to the fact that I'm old, fat and ugly. If a friend of hers had said "that guy's really checking you out", she would have either thrown up or told them that I was old, fat and ugly. If she wrote to this newspaper and expressed her disinterest in me, it would probably sound like "he's not my type". Tactful, but not the whole truth.

Marshall said:

Listen guys,

Every one here is a friend of ideas. We have our own opinions and enjoy expressing them and defending them. Probably we should all get out more. I have found much to admire on this board and much that caused to be embarassed for the writers. Use this space to hone and perfect the best part of yourself. Use the anonymity (sp) not as a shield to cowardly attack people that disagree with you but to build a virtual persona that you are proud of.

If you see someone saying something stupid (as you may be right now) have sympathy for them & gently try to correct them. Always keep in the back of your head that you may be wrong on whatever the particular issue is. Try to see where the person with the opposing view is coming from. This is a wonderful opportunity to understand other peoples thought processes.

Careful though. It might lead to personal growth.

steve said:

. . .and all God's people said "Aman"

Brian Harper said:

I disagree with Yvonne. I do believe people can be stupid and ignorant. That's life.

Socrates said:

Joe Killian,

You are alive ! Praise the lord.

So I guess that on soberer reflection you reconsidered that conium maculatum cocktail.

Kerry lost. Bush won.This has been fact checked.

Nefertiti said:

Unfotunately, this whole blog thing has degenerated into a group of about a dozen people who gather each day to bicker at each other over an election long past. Get over it.
Each poster aspires to be the leader of the pack, and it's just degenerative squabbling these days. I'm not sure it's even worth reading anymore, I can look at the blogger's name and know what will be in the message without even reading it.

mrproduce said:

"Feel free to comment; that's why this blog exists. It's fine to disagree with one another's opinions, but please attack ideas, not people."

Joe, seems to me folks trying to do just what was being called for with the exception of one individual who right off the bat had to attack someone because he doesn't like her comments. Well, I thought this was what blogs were for, that is to disagree while being civil about things.Like I said in my last post, there is a way of disagreeing and still making the other person not feel attacked. Say it with smile. (((smile)))

ms jackson said:

I'm just addicted to this stuff. I like to bicker, fuss, and pick out the stupid stuff people say. And I don't mind them doing that to me. If I can offend someone on something like this, then maybe they NEED to be offended. So, you you fit those shoes, go *&%$^#&@* yourself. Ha ha ha ha ha!

marshall said:

"Unfotunately, this whole blog thing has degenerated into a group of about a dozen people who gather each day to bicker at each other over an election long past."

I still believe Dewey won d*mn it.

Lilly said:

Oh My GOD! THEY KILLED KENNY... LMAO

Yvonne said:

Nefertiti, I participate in this forum as a form of recreation, learning and sharing. While I agree the comments often lead to a rehashing of democrats vs republicans, there are also things to be gleened from these side trips.

Sometimes people who vehemently disagree with each other on one issue will find themselves aligned with those same people on another issue. Whether I agree with someone or not I rarely find people stagnant and am interested in what they have to offer. When I run across someone who is so disrespectful and so offensive in in their disagreement I withdraw from an exchange with them.

I love passion in people. To me it means they have convictions and are not afraid to express those convictions. I just wish some people would express with a little less anger and hate.

I do not intentionally try to provoke people but sometimes I do just by expressing an opinion. I made the post a while back that whenever anyone says anything negative about Bush it was equivelent to blaspheming God. Because I had posted I thought Bush was evil and one of the false prophets leading the masses that are referenced in the Bible, some people were ready to tar and feather me. Some called me everything but a child of God.

But there are the faithful few who accept we are all different and are entitled to express those differences. These good folks are a fair, articulate and intelligent group who inspire me to keep participating and to keep trying to improve in that participation.

mrproduce said:


"Sometimes people who vehemently disagree with each other on one issue will find themselves aligned with those same people on another issue."

Well said Yvonne. While we have often disagreed we have found common ground on many subjects.

Isn't that really the purpose of these blogs?

Mandy Pepperidge said:

No , the purpose of this blog is to find Yvonne a man. Do I hear something in the works here Mr. P?

govtwriter said:

OK, the Dewey comment was priceless!

Yvonne, you are right on target. For example, in some areas I have disagreed with Mr Produce and in others I am lockstep with him. I think it all comes back to learning how to agreeably agree to disagree because at the end of the day we are all individuals with different life experiences and opinions and will likely not all think the same thing all or even ANY of the time.

Now...Vonnie, Mr. Produce...are yall gonna test the dating waters or what? LOL!

mrproduce said:

Naw, long distance is not the way to go. Beside's Mrs. Produce might get a bit more than upset seeing as how we aint been married but just a short spell. You know the saying. If mamma aint happy, aint nobody happy.
Besides it took her over 40 years to run me down and get me married to her. We graduated from the same high school. I thought she was a teachers pet, she thought I was a smart a** and we never dated. We met again at our 40th reunion (2002) and married last year.
So thanks for the offers folks , 'cides Vonnie says she been happly divorced for a long time and ain't no use in making her unhappy.

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