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The writer says:

Liberals cannot deal with loss of political power or rejection of their socialist, stupid, unconstitutional ideas, so they resort to their usual responses: Label conservative listeners as unintelligent and advocate a "fairness doctrine" requiring equal time for liberal shows the market freely rejects.

Uh huh. So now that conservatives have political power, how do they deal with it? I don't think I ever heard of "free speech zones" before the Right Wing got into the West Wing. Conservative talk shows are hardly a bastion of objective, unbiased information.

Sounds like the pot has once again called the kettle black, for some reason.

Eric, I agree. It is just more whining because Mr. Jones can't have it all his way. If he is setting himself up to speak as an intelligent representation of the republicans, God help them.

Mr. Jones I am a Liberal and I consider myself, like other liberals, quite tolerant; but, don't expect me to tolerate intollerance.

Charles, you hit the nail on the head with this one.
The liberals are absolutely incensed to think that the entire world does not agree with them. They think that they KNOW what's right for the world, and can't understand why everyone doesn't agree with them.
Their intolerance for other's views can be seen here every day, with attacks and blistering diatribe against anyone who believes in God, truth, justice, or following the Constitution of the laws of our land.
But take heart, the conservatives are the majority.

"Their intolerance for other's views can be seen here every day, with attacks and blistering diatribe against anyone who believes in God, truth, justice, or following the Constitution of the laws of our land."

Wow. So anyone who disagrees with you is a lying atheist who is only interested in unfairly going against the constitution? Got any other, perhaps ORIGINAL ways to demonize and de-humanize the folks you don't like?

Mr. Bush has done everything in his power to wreck this country. The illusion of prosperity cannot hold up much longer. His father, during his administration, stood up in front of the whole world and suggested we needed a New World Order. That was not an impromptu remark. He would've never said that if there were not an elitist peer group in the wings. This same group of social engineers now have the baby Bush to take up where daddy left off.

The impending fallout from the policies of this administration will make the tsunami look like a kiddie pool. Proving, once again, the apple doesn't fall far from the Bush.

I will not defend Bush but I will say he is no worse than his predecessor. There are policies that I find reprehensible in both parties.

I don't like intolerance either. From either side. I do think that liberals have put on this coat of arms that says they are open-minded and tolerant when they are anything but.

If you are open-minded, you don't go on the attack every time someone says they believe in a higher power, creationism, or moral values different than your own.

Everyone should try to understand where their beliefs come from and there's nothing wrong with discussing that with others. I think that can solidify or even change your beliefs sometimes. But to attack another's beliefs because they aren't yours is arrogant and it shows just how stupid you are.

I think this writer pretty much destroys his point by lashing out at liberals just as they lashed out at him.

Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. You may not believe in the person who said those words, but you have to admit that if we treated each other the way we would want to be treated, the world would be a better place.

Except for the occasional sadomasochist, that is.

"Stupid" Liberal ideas:
Montgomery GI Bill
Workplace Safety Laws
Civil Rights Laws
Womens Voting Rights, just to name a few.

Mr. Jones, you know where you can shove your ignorant statements.

"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. You may not believe in the person who said those words, but you have to admit that if we treated each other the way we would want to be treated, the world would be a better place."

Now why on Earth would I not believe in Rabbi Hillel? He was a pretty well-documented Jewish leader. But I disagree that following this advice is the best. I prefer the version by Confucious: Don't do to others what you wouldn't want done to you. Works better if you think about it.

I wish Charles or republican would site one thing the democrats stand for that would be unconstitutional.
And good job Brian in giving examples about what evil programs dems have put into place in this country.
And Mr, Republican there seems to be alot of self-rightousness in your comments.

Even though people like you, dems and repubs, paint the other side in the extreme, I for one believe most people are in the middle and dont even fit your description.

But if you are willing to trade examples about the intolerence of each party I am game as I am sure some others here are. But keep emotional attacks out of it.

But in the end it will be very obvious the extremes in both sides are intolerent and most are in the middle. But hey lets go at it.

Eric,

The Confucious version is basically the negative version of the words Jesus used. I've often seen the reverse in the Bible where the Bible says Thou shalt not and other religions say Thou shall.

But I think the Confucious version would do great benefits too.

There is a lot of parallel wisdom in many religions. I won't say which is better but I think that both are easier said than done.

Or not done, as the case may be.

"Wow. So anyone who disagrees with you is a lying atheist who is only interested in unfairly going against the constitution? Got any other, perhaps ORIGINAL ways to demonize and de-humanize the folks you don't like?"

You missed my point entirely in your haste to criticize someone with whom you don't agree.
I said that the libs do that to bloggers they don't agree with, I don't do that or think that. Quit trying to project your inadequacies on others.

republican, And what point did Eric miss cause I missed it also? I think you need to go back and reread your own post and have the gumption to accept responsibility for what you said and what you meant.

Although you may think you are dealing with a bunch of liberal whackos (to borrow one of the terms uses by republicans to describe liberals) who just fell off the turnip truck, you are sadly mistaken. You can't treat us like unruly children and expect us to respond favorably. It's past time you and your ilk realize we may all live in the same nation but we have differing opinions. And as Americans we have that right. If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.

Where did you read that I called anyone a lying atheaist or going against the Constitution? I merely made the point that you people attack anyone who has traditional values, religion, etc. And you just proved my point again, Yvonne.
You accost me as if I'm attacking you, but I did nothing of the sort.

"your ilk"
"have the gumption"
"sadly mistaken"
"get out of the kitchen"

All are excellent examples of your intolerance for anyone that disagrees with you.
That is why you Democrats and liberals have no respect or support from regular Americans.

Quote: "That is why you Democrats and liberals have no respect or support from regular Americans."

Hmmm... Interesting... If by regular Americans you mean Radical Neo-Cons, then you are right..er..correct.

Don't forget: 49% of America voted for Kerry. Sounds like a lot of regular Americans to me. Also, here in North Carolina, we have
(a)A Demcratic Governor
(b)A Democratic House
(c)A Democratic Senate
(d) and in Guilford, a Democratic Board of Commissioners.

So, those "regular" Americans must be in the minority...which would make them...irregular Americans.

Dude, WE are all regular Americans. When you are able to accept that, we might actually get things done.

"That is why you Democrats and liberals have no respect or support from regular Americans."

Republican, if your statement above is your idea of acceptance and tolerance I would hate to hear what you consider intolerance.

Your attitude reflects your distaste for those who do not support your conservative position and your close-mindedness. Perhaps you should look inward before you come out slinging mud. Another fine example of the pot calling the kettle black.

Wow. Thank you, Mr. Charles A. Jones of Norfolk Virginia, for airing your close-minded beliefs for the world to see.

Your letter is not ignorant and close-minded because you criticize liberals. It is because you are so full of venom that you fail to make distinctions between liberals or to even give us the benefit of the doubt.

As hard as it is to believe, this intolerant diatribe is from the same political force that claimed after the recent election that they were constantly being called "rednecks" and "stupid" for their beliefs. If liberals are supposedly the "intelligentsia", why is it that a conservative is doing the insulting?

Conspicuously missing from this ignorant letter is a disctinction between radical liberals (such as those who truly think that Bush caused 9/11) and more moderate liberals who don't like Bush but don't think that he's Hitler. How would you like it if I compared you to Adolf Hitler, one of the most extreme conservatives the world has likely seen? This is what you are effectively doing.

I'm not sure exactly what you and other conservatives haveto whine about; you control the White House, the Senate, the Congress, most of the media, and will probably be successful in electing your right-wing judges to the Supreme Court. I guess some conservatives will not be happy until any opposition to their point of view are completely eliminated from the country.

Like I said, Eric. Easier said than done. Or not done.

Man, I was out of town yesterday and just got to read this thread. What a doozie.

If you guys happened to miss this in previous posts, I'm a conservative and proud of it. However, I agree that we are all Americans and have the right to our opinions. If we all agreed on everything, these blogs would be useless, not to mention boring.

I have read about this proposed "fairness doctrine" that the original writer mentions. It goes something along that if a local radio station broadcasts 3 hours of Rush Limbaugh, then it has to by law broadcast 3 hours of a liberal talk show host.

I strongly disagree with such a law, doctrine or whatever you call it, as the market should be able to decide what it wants to hear and stations should be free to air what they think will sell advertising. I would hope you lefties would agree with that. If Air America or any program, left or right, wants to broadcast it needs to attract a market of listeners. Witness that conservative Dr. Laura is no longer broadcast around here, the market decided it didn't want her.

"Conspicuously missing from this ignorant letter is a disctinction between radical liberals (such as those who truly think that Bush caused 9/11) and more moderate liberals who don't like Bush but don't think that he's Hitler."

Good point Ringo. The problem is the radicals are the ones that get all the press, not the "regular" folks like you and me. When these radicals go out and compare Bush to Hitler, insinuate that Bush was responsible for the horrible dragging death in TX of James Byrd, make movies like Farenheit 9/11, etc. etc., that is the message that gets across to a lot of "regular" folks. The message also get across from the radical left that us conservatives hate gays & minorities, want to install a theocracy, want to starve the elderly & kids, kill the environment, etc. etc.

Me thinks the radical left has been very successful in getting it's views out into the media and that is why there is a backlash from Mr. Jones & the like.

Dan says:

I strongly disagree with such a law, doctrine or whatever you call it, as the market should be able to decide what it wants to hear and stations should be free to air what they think will sell advertising. I would hope you lefties would agree with that.

In fact, I do agree with the concept of a free market in the media. The only thing I objected to was the characterization of liberals as whiny, worthless, small-minded annoyances.

I think there are plenty of such characters scattered all along the philosiphical and political spectra. One "side" has no business accusing the "other side" of such a thing, in my opinion.

"The message also get across from the radical left that us conservatives hate gays & minorities, want to install a theocracy, want to starve the elderly & kids, kill the environment, etc. etc." -- Dan

What, this is not true? Man I have been misinformed! Guess I had better stop watching Fox News Channel!

Yes Brian quit watching FNC, I don't want you to get ulcers. This previous message brought to you folks from Brian Harper, Mr. Tolerance himself. The guy that put a picture of Rev. Jerry Falwell on his weblog with the caption "Die Motherf***er Die". Brian just relax, turn off FNC, put in a Farenheit 9/11 DVD, and enjoy.

dan, you just can't let that go, huh? i admit it was a mistake to put falwells pic there. should have put ol' georgies there instead.

Brian, put one with W, but to be fair, put one with Hillary as well. Have a good weekend and watch your Michael Moore DVD, I'm sure you own one. Relax, I'll let you know what Sean Hannity has to say tonight.

Pssst...Dan, I hate to be the one to point this out since I try to behave in mixed company but (whispering) your conservative right is showing. It has a way of rearing its ugly head every now and again, much to my chargrin. If you act fast though you can get it back in check before too many people notice. That way it won't be too much of an embarrassment.

You know, I was gonna let it slide this time UNTIL you had to go dising one of my girls, Saint Hillery. You crossed the line there. And when she is your prez I'm gonna be LMAO.

You have to admit any woman who would put up with the shenannigins she did (and so publically) and not kill the offender has to have control and... and... something up her sleeve. (Kinda like the Mona Lisa. That woman was keeping one heck of a secret.)

Perhaps St. Hillery will be kind and sentence Bill to life rather than killing him. That would be the ultimate justice; for her to be prez and Bill be the "first lady".

Anyway, just watch what you say 'bout her cause I got my eye on you. OK?

As fresh as today's headlines: "The man's father is a wonderful human being," Reid said in response to a question about President Bush's policies. "I think this guy is a loser." That's Harry Reid, Senate Minority Leader, following in the footsteps of Tom Daschle. What's Tom doing these days? Cooling his heels watching Michael Moore flicks.

For all the venom spewed at him by the Daschles, Kennedys, Byrds, etc., Bush never responds in kind. He's never called anyone a loser, a neo-Hitler, a murderer, etc. Why, you ask?

(A) Because he's smart, and (B) because he's a Republican, which I think we would all agree are morally and intellectual superior to their Democratic counterparts.

Republicans lose the high moral ground when they respond in kind to the asinine attacks of the atheistic, America-hating left. And so if they want to joke about murdering the president, we really shouldn't retaliate by joking about murdering Hillary, since that lowers us to their level. Instead, we should affect an aristocratic disdain of their vile tactics, as though we dare not soil ourselves by noticing such odious folk.

To the Angry Left, I say unto you: don't be so angry. Instead, envision scenes of reconciliation and world peace, or scenes of happy caribou frolicking in the Arctic National Wildlife Preserve.

Anonymous, Thanks for the entertainment and the laugh. I might be persuaded to make a contribution for more of such quality. If we string several together like christmas lights we could call it a documentary and send it to box offices all over the country. Just imagine.

Anonymous,
Your ignorance shows through your letter. Why do you believe we leftists hate America?
We are the ones fighting to preserve rights for all, not take them away. Is that hating America?
The Republicans don't have the high moral ground you speak of.
Republican morals:
-Propagating a war based on lies
-Changing House ethics rules because one of their own was in trouble
-Bush essentially OK'ing torture via executive order
-Waging war against gay marriage while the southern red states has the highest divorce rates in the country
-Intervening in the Shaivo case (trying to erode separation of powers)
-there are many, many more but I'm tired of writing this

Brian, I may be wrong but I took anonymous's post to be faceious and saterical. That's the reason I responded in that manner. I said to myself "Surely this person, who doesn't even take responsibility for their own discourse, can't seriously be criticizing anyone else".

If, indeed, they are serious I will have to retract a statement I made several weeks ago. You told me then that, yes, there were ignorant people who posted here, not just rational people behaving in an ignorant manner. If anonymous is believeing what he/she is saying, I'd have to say I was wrong and you were right!

Yvonne says "You have to admit any woman who would put up with the shenannigins she did (and so publically) and not kill the offender has to have control and... and... something up her sleeve."

I agree Hillary has something up her sleeve, always has, always will. She put up with Bill's BJs for one reason only: if she had left that would have diminished her political power and ultimate goal to get in the "Oral Office" herself. Yeah she's in control but for that one reason. Notice how she's using Bill's tactics in moving more toward center.

Any other woman with decency would not have put up with that BS, my wife certainly would not. My arse would have been thrown out in the front yard.

Don't worry Anonymous, I don't want anyone to hurt Hillary. That was a joke to get Brian to cool his heels for the evening, but I see it didn't work.

so much for freedom of religion in the baptist church.

Democrats Voted Out of Baptist Church
The Associated Press

Saturday 07 May 2005

Waynesville, N.C. - Some in Pastor Chan Chandler's flock wish he had a little less zeal for the GOP. Members of the small East Waynesville Baptist Church say Chandler led an effort to kick out congregants who didn't support President Bush. Nine members were voted out at a Monday church meeting in this mountain town, about 120 miles west of Charlotte.

"He's the kind of pastor who says do it my way or get out," said Selma Morris, the church treasurer who was among those voted out. "He's real negative all the time."

Chandler didn't return a message left by The Associated Press at his home Friday, and several calls to the church went unanswered. He told WLOS-TV in Asheville that the actions were not politically motivated.

The station also reported that 40 others in the 100-member congregation resigned in protest after Monday's vote.

During the presidential election last year, Chandler told the congregation that anyone who planned to vote for Democratic Sen. John Kerry should either leave the church or repent, said former member Lorene Sutton.

Some church members left after Chandler made his ultimatum in October, Morris said.

George Bullard, associate executive director-treasurer for Baptist State Convention of North Carolina, told the Asheville Citizen-Times that a pastor has every right to disallow memberships if a church's bylaws allow for the pastor to establish criteria for membership.

"Membership is a local church issue," he said. "It is not something the state convention would enter into."

He added that the nine members were not legally terminated because Monday's meeting was supposed to be a deacons meeting, not a business meeting. They have a lawyer looking into the situation, he said.

The head of the North Carolina Democratic Party sharply criticized the pastor Friday, saying Chandler jeopardized his church's tax-free status by openly supporting a candidate for president.

"If these reports are true, this minister is not only acting extremely inappropriately by injecting partisan politics into a house of worship, but he is also potentially breaking the law," Chairman Jerry Meek said.

Doris Wilson, one of Chandler's neighbors and a member of First Baptist Church in Waynesville, said God doesn't play partisan politics.

"I hate to see the church suffer like that," she said. "God doesn't care whether you're a Republican or a Democrat. It just hurts to see that going on."

Gabbyhayes, Another fine example of far right conservatives level of tolerance, wouldn't you say?

I saw that story on the news. That churchs' doors need to be permanently closed. Hopefully congresspeople jump on it and at least repeal their tax exemption status.