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The devestation of New Orleans and Gulf Coast along with $3.39/gallon gas and a looming shortage has made Sheehan/Iraq irrelevant to me for the time being. There's more to be concerned with closer to home.

All you bike riders should have an easier time on the roads in coming days--fewer cars. Downtown/hoppers will continue to boom as a lot of folks won't be able to afford $140 tankful (if they can find the fuel) for their SUV to drive to the beach or mountains on the weekends.

Robert Healy,

Most of the people think that in order to support the troops, one must support the war as well. This couldn't be further from the truth, but convincing them of this fact would be a daunting task.

If you truly support the troops, why wouldn't you support those of us who want them home, in relative safety?

I agree that Caseys mom is honoring him by her stance. If I died in a war that was questionable, I'd feel less loved if my mom didn't do the same, and if my child died in a war such as this one, I'd do the same thing.

There's nothing more patriotic than a mother demanding answers from our president, after all he is a servant of the people!

Hugh,

Did you catch the article in today's N&R on why FEMA has been so slow to respond? Seems our war in Iraq and the help for the huricane victims are sort of interrelated. Sad days we're living in.

Mr. Healy,

To understand Ms. Sheehan's vigil, all one has to do is see the picture of her speaking, with the fat man in the baseball cap behind the curtain pulling her strings.

"To understand Ms. Sheehan's vigil, all one has to do is see the picture of her speaking, with the fat man in the baseball cap behind the curtain pulling her strings."

Dick Cheney?

Mr. Healy then should be quite satisfied.

The President has very clearly given the schedule for a reasonably timed withdrawal from Iraq.

So what is the problem?

Bluto yeah it's like watching Karl Rove pull the strings and dubya dances - I see what you mean.

Mac - you just told a lie - go to church sunday and think about the huge lie you just told. also you might want to think about how smart you are if you believe anything that Karl, Dubya, Rush, Ann, et al say.

They are NOT "troops"! They are soldiers. A troop is a group of soldiers in a single unit. "Troops" does not refer to ALL the soldiers as a total mass. Otherwise the singular would be "troops". When was the last time you referred to that highway patrolman who's writing out your citation as a "troop"? Call them troopers if you must, or better yet what they really are: soldiers. But no more of this "we support our TROOPS" nonsense!

Should have said "Otherwise the singular would be 'troop'" on that last rant :-)

Mr. Healy states the points clearly and concisely. Any questions about this mean that one has not comprehended the Counterpoint.

I love the soldiers as people who have Light. I despise what they do (having to wage war). Yet, I know that God (Christian faith) cares for ALL people, regardless of the who, what, when, where, how aspects. God sees each person as yet another one of God's creation. I believe that it pains God to see we humans bent on destroying one another.

Seeking to destroy one another violtates the Peace message of the Prince of Peace. Case closed.

Shalom

Why can't you folks seem to understand on simple FACT. Casey Sheehan, and almost everyone in Iraq, VOLUNTEERED; ENLISTED: Some more than once. Casey Sheehan disagreed with his dishonorable mother who dishonered his wishes and his service. She tried to talk him out of it. He was an adult. He was truly a hero. Ms.Sheehan is just another pathetic, disturbed Bush hater. Just check some of the outrageous statements made by Sheehan. He off-the-wall lunacy has nothing to do with legitimite protest, which has been long accepted as part of our discourse for as long as our country has been here. Calling the president, "a f_ _ _ing hypocrite is not dissent. Saying, "George Bush is the biggest terrorist in the world" is not protest. This is just a small, but telling, sample of her "protest!"

Tony moschetti

yellowd,
I won't take the time to look up the quotation exactly and cite the source but I suspect you have seen it anyway.

The President clearly said that we would pull the military out of Iraq when the Iraq government and military is able to carry on and defend themselves.

That, my friend, is the only reasonable timing for a pull out.

Tony,

I grew up in Appalachia where there is little or no work. These fellows enlisted in order to go to school or to be able to feed their families. Same with any impoverished area in the US.

Sure, they knew the risks. And many did join just to go to Iraq. But let's not forget that for some, the military was seen as their only option.

Also, it is wrong to call George Bush "a f___ hypocrite" as you stated. It is equally wrong to call Cindy Sheehan "another pathetic Bush hater."

For whatever she may be, she lost her son as a result of war. Just that fact alone should make us give her understanding and sympathy even if we disagree with what she says and does.

Mr. Moschetti:

And calling someone pathetic and disturbed is not an argument.

Christopher, not that it amounts to a hill of beans but the US military and European military have been refered to as TROOPS for a few hundred years now. US newspapers, which I have, refer to soldiers as troops during the Spanish American War, WWI, WW2 and onward.

troops Military units; soldiers.
A unit of cavalry, armored vehicles, or artillery in a European army, corresponding to a platoon in the U.S. Army.

I was refered to as a troop, since I was one in a group of troops in both the US Army and the USAF and it has not bothered me one iota. A soldier is a troop and a troop is a soldier. A trooper is somebody from, vaudville if it makes any difference or at least is sometimes if they really put forth an effort unless they are a state trooper and then you'd better refer to them as sir or officer. hahahha.
Just thought ya'd like to know.

Again, some recruiters have to chose between getting someone to join the military at any cost, or getting transferred with a bad evaluation.

The system is flawed and forces some good military personnel to become dishonest recruiters!

It didn't matter, whether it's "troop" or "soldier", not really. Thought I'd interject a lil' humor into the thread :-)

"The President clearly said that we would pull the military out of Iraq when the Iraq government and military is able to carry on and defend themselves."

That, my friend, is pretty vague.

I don't necessarilly disagree - we're dammed if we stay, dammed if we go.

How true JDR. Countless US monies will be spent. So far billions upon billions have been wasted, not to mention the countless lives!

Even should Dubya not seek to "save face" and pull out now, US monies would be sent to clean up after the civil war ends!

Shalom

OK Christopher, couldn't see the grin on your face. hahahha. Ya never know these day's what folks are really thinking when they write some of this stuff or if they are really thinking. HMmmm and that seems to be the case on many of these blogs, no thought, just puking out what someone else has already said.

Have a good weekend Christopher.