The world celebrates
"Saddam hanged, death spurs demonstrations in U.S., abroad." Respectfully, I must submit that, while the technical definition of the word "demonstration" fits, in common parlance it has a generally negative connotation. I must say, I fail to find any negative in this development, nor did I find any reference to mass demonstrations of those unhappy with this development. Instead, I saw Iraqi-Americans dancing in the streets.
I would suggest that a more appropriate headline would have been: "Saddam hanged, mass celebration in U.S., world."
Tim Tessier
Greensboro
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I remember reading that headline and took "demonstration" to mean "against" the execution and was wondering who was demonstrating.
Good riddance Saddam. Say hello to Hitler, Stalin & Pol Pot.
Posted on January 5, 2007 5:22 AM
Tim, to MesSNBC, NBC, CNN, Tom Brokaw, et al it was a "demonistration" of outrage. To everyone else it was a celebration.
Posted on January 5, 2007 6:20 AM
Dan, you left out Idi Amin, Mao Zedong, and Slobodan Milosevic, just to name a few more in recent history. The death of Saddam Hussein and his sons was about the only positive outcome of the war so far. I understand death penalty opponents' positions, but if anyone deserved execution, it was Saddam Hussein.
Posted on January 5, 2007 9:54 AM
For the "Bush Apologists", let us now declare victory in Iraq and go home!
Posted on January 5, 2007 10:46 AM
Here's an "apologist" for you world traveler:
"This Letter of Apology" was written by Lieutenant General Chuck Pitman, US Marine Corps, Retired:
For good and ill, the Iraqi prisoner abuse mess will remain an issue. On the one hand, right thinking Americans will abhor the stupidity of the actions while on the other hand, political glee will take control and fashion this minor event into some modern day massacre.
I humbly offer my opinion here:
I am sorry that the last seven times we Americans took up arms and sacrificed the blood of our youth, it was in the defense of Muslims (Bosnia , Kosovo, Gulf War 1, Kuwait , etc.).
I am sorry that no such call for an apology upon the extremists came after 9/11.
I am sorry that all of the murderers on 9/11 were Islamic Arabs.
I am sorry that most Arabs and Muslims have to live in squalor under savage dictatorships.
I am sorry that their leaders squander their wealth.
I am sorry that their governments breed hate for the US in their religious schools, mosques, and government-controlled media.
I am sorry that Yassar Arafat was kicked out of every Arab country and high-jacked the Palestinian "cause."
I am sorry that no other Arab country will take in or offer more than a token amount of financial help to those same Palestinians.
I am sorry that the U.S.A. has to step in and be the biggest financial supporter of poverty stricken Arabs while the insanely wealthy Arabs blame the USA for all their problems.
I am sorry that our own left wing, our media, and our own brainwashed masses do not understand any of this (from the misleading vocal elements of our society like radical professors, CNN and the NY TIMES).
I am sorry the United Nations scammed the poor people of Iraq out of the "food for oil" money so they could get rich while the common folk suffered.
I am sorry that some Arab governments pay the families of homicide bombers upon their death.
I am sorry that those same bombers are brainwashed thinking they will receive 72 virgins in "paradise."
I am sorry that the homicide bombers think pregnant women, babies, children, the elderly and other noncombatant civilians are legitimate targets.
I am sorry that our troops die to free more Arabs from the gang rape rooms and the filling of mass graves of dissidents of their own making.
I am sorry that Muslim extremists have killed more Arabs than any other group.
I am sorry that foreign trained terrorists are trying to seize control of Iraq and return it to a terrorist state.
I am sorry we don't drop a few dozen Daisy cutters on Fallujah.
I am sorry every time terrorists hide they find a convenient "Holy Site."
I am sorry they didn't apologize for driving a jet into the World Trade Center that collapsed and severely damaged Saint Nicholas Greek Orthodox Church - one of our Holy Sites.
I am sorry they didn't apologize for flight 93 and 175, the USS Cole, the embassy bombings, the murders and beheadings of Nick Berg and Daniel Pearl, etc....etc!
I am sorry Michael Moore is American; he could feed a medium sized village in Africa .
America will get past this latest absurdity. We will punish those responsible because that is what we do.
We hang out our dirty laundry for the entire world to see. We move on. That's one of the reasons we are hated so much. We don't hide this stuff like all those Arab countries that are now demanding an apology.
Deep down inside, when most Americans saw this reported in the news, we were like - so what? We lost hundreds and made fun of a few prisoners. Sure, it was wrong, sure, it dramatically hurts our cause, but until captured we were trying to kill these same prisoners. Now we're supposed to wring our hands because a few were humiliated?
Our compassion is tempered with the vivid memories of our own people killed, mutilated and burnt amongst a joyous crowd of celebrating Fallujahans.
If you want an apology from this American, you're going to have a long wait! You have a better chance of finding those seventy-two virgins.
Chuck Pitman
Lieutenant General, USMC, Retired
Posted on January 5, 2007 11:26 AM
No limp wrist there...no sir!
Posted on January 5, 2007 11:27 AM
"nor did I find any reference to mass demonstrations of those unhappy with this development."
Did you look? I know this may sound strange to you, but there are many Sunni Arabs (which outnumber Shia about 5 to 1) that supported him. While I'm sure that there were many that celebrated his death (with good reason, I might add), to deny the contrary is either disingenuous or lazy, perhaps both.
http://www.gulf-times.com/site/topics/article.asp?cu_no=2&item_no=125802&version=1&template_id=40&parent_id=22
http://www.ndtv.com/template/template.asp?template=Newiraq&slug=Pro-Saddam+protests+in+Tikrit&id=98956&callid=1
Heck, for "balance", here's one from FOX:
http://www.myfoxdc.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=1957285&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.4.1
Posted on January 5, 2007 11:40 AM
hey neocon-
http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/pitman.asp
Posted on January 5, 2007 11:45 AM
The letter of apology above was not written by General Pitman. The original source was an article by Dr. Mike S. Adams entitled "My Apology to the Arab World." Dr. Adams is a professor at the University of North Carolina Wilmington and published on Townhall.com on June 14, 2004. Check Snopes.com for the original text.
Posted on January 5, 2007 12:04 PM
I am one person who did not celebrate the hanging of Saddam. I do not celebrate the execution of any human being. We handed Saddam over to the Iraqi government, washed out hands of his fate. I think the current government in Iraq is just as evil as Saddam and that we are supporting that evil. We have chosen sides in a civil war which will not end, no matter how many troops we send to Iraq.
Posted on January 5, 2007 12:08 PM
The "blood of Christ" again?
Posted on January 5, 2007 12:21 PM
Ya know Neo - on some things there can be dispute, but on others, someone is just plain wrong. On the "Pittman" fake, you are just plain wrong.
Your contining to defend stupid things - like this - makes one ask:
Are you related to Bobby?
Posted on January 5, 2007 1:42 PM
Can I file this under Denzien's "arguing the source insted of the content"?
cRock-o-...feller, again, your observations carry little or no weight with me. You are a one trick pony who quotes either obl or npr...sosdd.
Posted on January 5, 2007 1:59 PM
OK, OK, Mike S. Adams is lacking the limp wrist.
Posted on January 5, 2007 2:02 PM
neocon,
Seriously, you can't continue to support a failed policy by providing erroneous sources of unbridled patriotism. These pieces of "urban legend" are meant soley to buttress the thinking of a myopic minority of people who continue to support "Stay the Course". I understand your frustration, but to claim a retired USMC General wrote something when it was really penned by a political idealogue is disingenuous.
Denzien, your links are right on target and I appreciate your diligence in discrediting the false drivel being foisted upon an unsuspecting public.
Posted on January 5, 2007 2:10 PM
What's the old saying?
"fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again."
Posted on January 5, 2007 2:58 PM
"OK, OK, Mike S. Adams is lacking the limp wrist."
The reality-based community applauds your brief visit.
Posted on January 5, 2007 6:34 PM