News-Record.com

I don't bother watching sotu speeches anymore. They are one size fits all cookie cutter speeches, just like the media response is one size fits all. Sli...uh, Clinton's sotu speech was hailed as 'advancing new ideas' and if I recall correctly, there was headlines that read "President Breaks New Ground In SOTU speech", then went on to praise the president not only for his for his ability to walk on water, but his amazing ability to commit a felony and still remain in office. Not to mention rape and sexual assault.

On the other hand, Bush is just the beneficiary of a right wing court and a poorly run campaign by Lurch.

Hey we agree again, Meow!

... and certainly Clinton falls into the "what was he thinking" category when he wagged his finger at America. Clearly he should have followed in the tears for America footsteps of such religious leaders as Jimmys' Swaggard and Baker.

As for the LTE ...

.. yea The New York Times slants left, certainly the Administration did all it could to shut up Judy Miller ... btw: that second part was a joke.

Now comments from four college professors ... well they are supposed to be learned men, but I will agree that a tenured lifestyle with lack of responsibility makes some pretty wacky - perhaps two from BYU or Texas Christian would balance it out ..

I do have little "respect" for business or professional people - because they have a slant like anyone.

Personally, I'll stick to the CSMonitor and Jim Lehrer, 'cause they seem the most middle and thorough. Your milage will vary.

Even with the disparaging moniker for John Kerry, neocon manages to get it right for once:

"On the other hand, Bush is just the beneficiary of a right wing court and a poorly run campaign by Lurch."

I think Mr. Douglas' letter deserves consideration for what he is saying and not saying. He expects his local paper to give a range of informed views and he feels he didn't get it. Besides asking college professors' their views, he asks the paper to get opinions from other professionals. By not doing so, he feels the News-Record is injecting partisanship.

The Times is left-leaning and most college professors do indeed hold liberal views. As to specifics, whether the Times is the "core" of an anti-Bush movement or that the individual professors quoted all expressed anti-Bush or liberal views, are arguable, but they don't detract from the writer's main point.

Getting more views seems like a pretty fair request and a failure to do so seems to be a reasonable criticism of the newspaper.

With that, I think that's about all he's saying.

AJY,
If Mr. Douglas wants to hear the GOP talking points instead of plain news reporting, he can always turn on the FoxNewsChannel, which offers the official "Bushspeak" on any given topic.

"I think in seeking local comments, you might have consulted Greensboro business or professional people, unless you were actually wanting adverse comments."

I guess business people are the new priesthood in Dick’s world. The N&R did not get views from Rush Limbaugh either. So what? Corporate bosses and their ilk do not run this country. Only a mere 20 some percent of the people give a F**K what they think about anything at this point. Open your eyes, Dick.

This contrived search for balance is killing debate in this country. If you don’t like something, it’s biased. If you do like something, it’s “fair and balanced”. When there are always conservative and liberal versions of truth, then truth is lost and so are we.

Eeeeewwwww, me thinks Stevie doesn't like businespeople. Tell me Stevie, where did he mention corporate bosses? He said Greensboro business or professional people. I'm am both, yet I am far away from being a corporate boss. Open your eyes Stevie ::::::)

I guess the NYT and four college professors consitutes fair and balanced for you huh?

"On the other hand, Bush is just the beneficiary of a right wing court and a poorly run campaign by Lurch."

Some darn fine political analysis! Concise and accurate. Keep up the good work Neo.

Glad you moved from Eeeeeeevil to Eeeeewwww. There’s nothing like a childish poo-pooing from Dan. I have come to expect that from him, mixed in with a healthy dose of narcissism. Yes Dan, we know you are a professional and how much you pay in taxes and all that. You provide a wonderful example of how money and class do not necessarily go hand in hand.

As I have said, I think the idea of "fair and balanced" is a contrived and moronic goal for news organizations. Dispassionate presentation of facts is what the news is for. Opinions are just that, opinions! If you don't like opinions, don't read them. Or at least quit whining about those that aren't "balanced" by your standards. All the balance you want is available online. Arguing over the issues is more important than arguing over the presentation of the issues.

"I guess the NYT and four college professors consitutes fair and balanced for you huh?"

One more point. I guess in your world ALL college professors and writers at the NYT are liberals. ALL OF THEM right? No exceptions. If you think that, your comment would make sense. If you look at it reasonably, you might realize your comment is a hasty generalization, a logical fallacy that would have earned you a failing grade from my conservative philosophy professor.

Stevie, nice rant. You got so self absorbed in the rant that you forgot to answer my question:

"Tell me Stevie, where did he mention corporate bosses?"

YOU are the one who brought up corporate bosses, the LTE author said, and I quote: "Greensboro business or professional people". Get your rhetoric straight before you start a spewin Stevie. Answer this question, who mentioned corporate bosses? Hint: not me or the author of the letter.

Did I say the NYT & all college professors are liberal? Please copy my quote to that effect and post it. I'm waiting........

waiting......

waiting......

Ok so you can't produce that quote. Read again....real clearly now....here it is.....

"I guess the NYT and four college professors constitutes fair and balanced for you huh?"

Now read this Stevie D:

"All four quoted by you found fault with the president's proposals." LTE author.

Get the idea?

"You provide a wonderful example of how money and class do not necessarily go hand in hand."

You used to be fairly easy going and sensible, but me thinks you have learned a bit of emulation. I'll leave it at that for you to figure out.

BTW, it's eeeeeeevvvvvviiilll.

Gotta go to Florida now. Adieu Stevie D.

"Some darn fine political analysis! Concise and accurate. Keep up the good work Neo."

And some accuse me of posts 'without value'. :}

Has anyone thought that most professors are liberal because they are thinking people? Have they thought that most media people are liberal because they are intelligent, thinking people? The definition of liberal is:

broad-minded; not bound by authoritarianism, orthodoxy, or traditional forms

Howie says,
"Yes Dan, we know you are a professional and how much you pay in taxes and all that. You provide a wonderful example of how money and class do not necessarily go hand in hand."

THE Demon Deacon says,
"AMEN"!
*****
But I do welcome Dan's change of heart on the Bush war in Iraq. He has adopted the John Murtha plan and that is commendable.

May be thinking people, NanP, but many work in an environment where their 'thoughts' go largely unchallenged because their students are conditioned to regurgitate their words back to them in order to succeed. Many could never make it in the 'real' world. Thinking and DOING are two very different things.

The N&R's unreasonable bias is why I do not subscribe to it. I'll read it for free but mainly just like to come here and have a fair and balanced discussion of the issues.

I'm not just talking about one liberal/republican bias either.

Chief David Wray, the Truth and Reconciliation Commission, the way Terry Grier is covered, the fact that Carolina ALWAYS gets the big spread and all other NC teams are relegated to the back pages. (Just for example, Carolina beats Miami and gets a full page photo. NC State beats Virginia Tech--last team in the conference beating first team in the conference--and gets an article on page C6?)

The LTE writer is wrong here:

"I do not know of any group more generally perceived to be opposed to anything Bush proposes than college professors."

I think Quakers beat college professors out any day. ;)

DD.

I can remember your bragging about your tax bill on more than one occasion.

Nitpicker, I'm not a college professor or a quaker and I have found nothing Bush has said or done which I can support. Have you?

With enough thought, I could write a huge post outlining both what I support about Bush and where I feel he has failed miserably.

That would be a little more energy than I feel like expending, though.

NanP,
I think Bush only has ONE redeeming issue that he has hit upon--CEO Pay at publicly held companies. Easy way to fix that--let shareholders vote on compensation!

nitpicker,
Dan has a streak of narcissim a mile wide. I just exposed how I had the opposite opinion and still paid more than he did. Your points lately have been quite shallow. The stem cell argument made absolutely no sense, but we'll save that one for another day.

"With enough thought, I could write a huge post outlining both what I support about Bush and where I feel he has failed miserably."

That first part, nit, would kill you. Where Bush has failed could be done without much "thinking" at all.