Bush's Vietnam analogy just another deception
The News & Record editorial cartoon (Aug. 25) shows a caricature of President Bush saying, "If we leave now, Iraq will become just another Vietnam." The statement reminded me that when Bush addressed the Veterans of Foreign Wars national convention a few days ago, he referred to the bloodshed and population displacement that occurred in Southeast Asia after the U.S. military left Vietnam. He argued that the military withdrawal was the cause of the carnage, and that leaving Iraq would cause a similar result.
I believe it would be more accurate to say the deaths that occurred after we left Vietnam were a direct result of the U.S. decision to intervene in that war. And the current Iraq disaster has one main cause: the U.S. invasion of that country.
American citizens should not buy the Bush big lie.
Bill Burnett
Greensboro
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Interesting that many opposed to the Iraq War have for a while compared it to Vietnam - and comparison White House strongly rebuffed. Now that the President has FLIP-FLOPPED - the defeatocrates are denying the comparison.
Long Live The Cheney Gang !!
Posted on September 1, 2007 5:29 AM
"If we leave now, Iraq will become just another Vietnam."
By that does he mean a country mired in civil war sustained by our intervention climbing out of the morass (albeit very messily) to become a stable nation state.
Perhaps Bush is right.
Posted on September 1, 2007 5:38 AM
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Too funny how the Bush/Cheney stickers have all but disappeared. In Irving Park most (demographic example of educated households) pulled them off just after Bush's response to Katrina. All you see now are the local GOP officers and a few hardcore pro-war folks.
It's also funny how people who supported Bush are now saying, "He's really as dumb as everyone said he was". A lady told me yesterday that she voted for Bush twice but that she now thought he was incompetent!
Guess neocon, Hillbilly, Mick, and a very small gaggle of folks will still voice their support for Bush. Even they have been conspicuously absent as of late.
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Posted on September 1, 2007 10:37 AM
Bill, it is long too late; the Bush Big Lie has already been purchased!
JDR & Rufus, I concur with each of you!
I say leave and let the chips fall where they may in Iraq. However, I say that anything that cannot be brought back should be totally destroyed so as not to be useful to anyone left there.
Posted on September 1, 2007 11:28 AM
"I believe it would be more accurate to say the deaths that occurred after we left Vietnam were a direct result of the U.S. decision to intervene in that war. And the current Iraq disaster has one main cause: the U.S. invasion of that country."
It never ceases to amaze me about the amount of historical revisionism about the way this country left SoutheastAsia in the mid 70s.
It goes hand in hand with the depth of denial found in the Usual Suspects here and on the internet/lame stream media in general over Iraq.
Do they actually believe that international political, social, and cultural conflicts, and the results of major changes in American involvement exist in a vacuum?
To call them ignorant or naive on the reality of this truth would be generous.
A poster at this thread put it in perspective:
"Meanwhile back at the Peace Cooperative, a New York Times reporter is checking out.
The Soviet Union and Chicoms aims were noble and had nothing to with (fill in country or region).
Check
Uncle Ho and Pol Pot were just patriotic progressive peasants who wanted to unify their countries.
Check
Everything bad that ever happened in (fill in country or region) was America's fault because it either did or did not intervene or because it supported United Fruit/Dow Chemical/Haliburton.
Check
If Kennedy had lived, he would have seen the folly of Vietnam and got out.
Check
JFK's tax cuts were broad based and not just targeted at the top marginal rate.
Check
An avowed Communist did not kill JFK, racist reactionary Amerikkka did.
Check
A Palestinian terrorist did not kill RFK, racist reactionary Amerikkka did.
Check
Millions of people starved under Communism because they had 70 years of bad weather.
Check.
Gorby ended the Cold War. Reagan was just an amiable dunce who was probably in the throes of Alzheimer's in his second term.
Check.
Paper or plastic and will there be anything else today Mr. Duranty?"
Posted on September 1, 2007 4:52 PM
Well I don't know about the other revisions you've put forth - certainly I've never suggested them - and Gorby may not have "singlehandedly ended the Cold War", but according to at least one very high level through the ranks career CIA guy who worked in the White House with Five Presidents .. Gorby was the amiable dunce who played a much larger role in the fall than good ol' Ronnie.
Have you have anything to back your argument, Bubbahead?
Posted on September 1, 2007 8:00 PM
"Have you have anything to back your argument, Bubbahead?"
Yeah.
Your last response, Socketsmeller.
Posted on September 1, 2007 8:04 PM
You make statements feigning knowledge, "amaze[d] ..about the amount of historical revisionism ..." and when asked to cite resources - you display Bozoness.
And folks are suppose to take you seriously?
Posted on September 1, 2007 9:11 PM
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James,
No one reads Bubber's Blog, so he drifts over here for validation. He is once again begging everyone as if to say,
"READ MY BLOG...PLEASE READ MY BLOG!!!"
or
"I'M SMAHHRT! NOT LIKE EVERYONE SEZ"
Like neo, Hillbilly etc, he never offers proof..just his narrow minded opinion.
LOL!
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Posted on September 1, 2007 10:00 PM
So here's what I think, Bubba.
I think you really believe that stuff - you either made it up or you got it from some other fruitcake, but you REALLY BELIEVE it .. and that makes you more than a Bozo - it makes you at least as dangerous as the imaginary [or real] "poster at this thread" ... whatever "this thread" means.
Posted on September 2, 2007 8:03 AM
I don't really care what you or your little buddy think, Rocketspeller.
I only post here to counter your abject and absurd nonsense.
It's no concern of mine whether you like it or not.
Posted on September 2, 2007 10:42 AM
.. yea but you've not countered it, asshole.
All you've done is sputter nonsense.
Posted on September 2, 2007 12:58 PM
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Bubba,
Go back to your blog and wait and wait and wait and wait and wait......
Anyone who will frequent your space is as stupid as you are.
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Posted on September 2, 2007 6:34 PM
".. yea but you've not countered it, asshole."
LOL!
Yet another quality contribution from one the most reliable of the Usual Suspects.
I love it when a plan comes together......
Keep on posting, little buddy.
You too, Deekie.
Posted on September 2, 2007 8:18 PM
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Weeping Jesus on the Cross! Will someone PLEASE go and read Bubba's blog! He gets his arse handed to him and yet he sticks around as if to say, 'PLEASE READ MY BLOG'!! What a narcissist! Oh, and will someone tell Bubba what THAT means!
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Posted on September 4, 2007 10:47 AM