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Danny, It's Bigger Than You May Know

Dubya's grandfather, Senator Prescott Bush hired 500,000 US Combat Veterans and attempted to overthrow the United States Government as part of an effort to turn the US into a fascist dictatorship and was later sanctioned by the Senate for selling banned weapons grade steel to Germany during WW2. He was backed by several notable American companies, among them HJ Heinz and Dupont. Their goal was to form a government that merged business and government into one.

Mussolini, the creator of Fascism, defined Fascism as the coming together of government and business into one.

Looks like Dubya simply finished the job his grandfather and Daddy were unable to finish.

The Bush family has over 150 years of experience getting very rich off of war.

We can look forward to many more years of war and an economy that fails the working class while making filthy rich ever richer

Republicans generally support private enterprise...
There are private companies conducting business in Iraq for [OMG] profit...
Therefore, the republicans are conducting war for profit...

Beam me up, Scotty.

"Beam me up, Scotty."

We dunna have enough pouer Cap'tin!

(the transporters and power source were made by Halliburton)

IT's uncanny how blind, deaf, and dumb neocon is. Once can ALWAYS predict what diarrhea will come out of his mouth. perhaps he is tony moschetti after all.

It seems as if Demon Deacon has a third identity, and calls himself mikeg. Just elementary school playground insults.

Danny, your letter says much. Some will not listen to the truth. Billy, your comments are very interesting.

What amazes me is how many poor people support the war and this administration. Many issues are "religious" based. Gay rights and abortion are a selling point for many. I ask these folks, What has changed with Bush's administration? His silly proposal for an amendment to our Constitution which he knew wouldn't fly gave him the power to say, Well I did my best.

I don't see a candidate for the presidency who has really come up with a solution for Iraq. There is probably no good way out, thanks to Bush and Company. No candidate has addressed the issue of rising oil prices which have caused the rise in all we consume. The poor and the middle class who are becoming the poor are the ones who suffer. Does anyone Care???

A $1,000.00 A DAY!!! Where can I get hired? I had a fast gun at one time. WOW! A thousand bucks a day. The Dog's outa here.
Crime Dog

"What amazes me is how many poor people support the war and this administration. Many issues are "religious" based. Gay rights and abortion are a selling point for many. I ask these folks, What has changed with Bush's administration?"

Carol,

You won't see these things seriously attacked by republicans. They need to have these issues around to scare people with.

whether its nations or neighbors, there will always be war.
compare radical islam, of which saddam was a part of, to any street gang. these people know you will never fight them. to you they are a mere legal concern.never mind that you neighbors kid was mowed down in a drive-by, or that your kid feels scared and alone in the halls of his school.
no, its all about profits. more money to your local government to " fight " the gangs. more cash to the security companies. more cops. more cars. more guns, tazers and video camera's. maybe even your wife will pay for some self defense classes.
what it all boils down to is that the radicals and gang members know that you'll never stand toe to toe and fight. and when the law and military try to squash down the thugs and radicals, protecting you and your family, you cry a over them.
merry christmas.

I will be so relieved when Hillary is madam President, so we can blame everything that has happened in the last eight years on her.
I am thinking of lining my John Deere ballcap with aluminum foil to see if it works for me, too.

Oh, by the way, anyone who cites John Reed as an objective reporter on anything American has shown his true color.

"Dubya's grandfather, Senator Prescott Bush hired 500,000 US Combat Veterans and attempted to overthrow the United States Government as part of an effort to turn the US into a fascist dictatorship and was later sanctioned by the Senate for selling banned weapons grade steel to Germany during WW2. He was backed by several notable American companies, among them HJ Heinz and Dupont. Their goal was to form a government that merged business and government into one."

Unproved, Debunked- I have no love for the Bushes, but the constant demonization is just sick. You don't realize that you are driving untold numbers of Americans into the extreme right hand column with this kind of idiotry.

"You don't realize that you are driving untold numbers of Americans into the extreme right hand column with this kind of idiotry"

Somehow I doubt this to be true, Bill. There are many who started out "in the extreme right hand column" but then finally wised up to the sick game this administration has been playing with the American public. More folks I know are now thinking for themselves rather than being led by people with strict party agendas. They are seeing past the smoke screens politicians have used to keep attention from their dirty dealings.

Look how well the Iraqi war covered the fact we were failing in our mission in Afghanistan. But we, as a nation, are not falling for the same tactic again. We are now asking questions and are starting to demand some accountability.

Seems to me, only those who are still trying to defend GWB and his actions are the one's bothered by a closer look at "W's" motives.

"During World War I, newspaperman John Reed was asked what that war was all about. He answered with one word: "profits."

Appears John Reed was cozy with Lenin and formed the communist labor party in the US. I would have left out that quip in the rant.

http://www.answers.com/topic/john-reed

I'm glad the US spent money on military "profits" to watch the Berlin Wall fall into pieces.

"I'm glad the US spent money on military "profits" to watch the Berlin Wall fall into pieces. "

I'm bummed that they are spending them to watch Iraq fall to pieces though."

Lilbean:

"compare radical islam, of which saddam was a part of .."

We've been looking for quite a while for evidence to support that. Have you found some evidence? Thanks in advance.

Btw - do you believe in flying saucers too?

What's most amusing to me is that so many believe friends of the (R)s are the only ones who can figure out how to make a buck off of this war.

I realized this as we sat in the movie theater, watching the credits roll for "In the Valley of Elah." It's an anti-war movie. And the backers were likely not making it in order to "just" evoke emotion. I'd bet they're hoping to make money (so far around $10 million worldwide, but I don't know what it cost to make. Couldn't have cost much, frankly).

They are profiting from this war.

Heck, Michael Moore is maybe the best example of this. The Iraq War has made him a very, very wealthy man. F9/11 has pulled in $222.5 million worldwide, and it only had a production budget of $6 million.
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=fahrenheit911.htm

Not a bad paycheck, and all thanks to the war.

Two sides of the same cheap, tarnished coin.

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J.D.R.,

He did fund suicide bombers.
"Payments are on a strict scale: £350 for a wound, £650 for disablement, £6,500 for death as a "martyr" and £17,000 for a suicide bomber."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2002/05/30/wjen30.xml

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2846365.stm
http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:LJKbjFlJ8L8J:www.bicom.org.uk/publications/middle_east_and_north_africa/s/691/iraq-and-saudi-arabia-fund-families-of-suicide-bombers/+saddam+%22suicide+bombers%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=18&gl=us&client=firefox-a
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2003-04-03-suicide-bombers-usat_x.htm

"We will use any means to kill our enemy in our land and we will follow the enemy into its land," said vice-president Taha Yassin Ramadan at a press conference.

"Suicide attacks will now be "routine military policy" with many ordinary Iraqi men and women ready to become fedayeen, or martyrs, and prepared to lay down their lives in suicide strikes to bring a halt to the allied invasion. "
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4156/is_20030330/ai_n12581767/pg_1

I would've rather watched us back Israel's play, but most all the politicians, (D) and (R), decided we should be the one to do it.

Roger

Roger - I did not check your links - but know Saddam funded suicide bombers .. Palestinians against Israel .. NOTHING to do with Islam.

If I'm wrong, or merely blind, of if there is addition clarity in your links, lemme know.

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I'll check now just to test myself.

Yep. I was correct.

BAD GUY? Sure.
Terrorist? Oh Yea.

Part of the Fundamentalist Islamic Forces America is fighting - you know the ones that flew planes into tall buildings in NYC, or who have otherwise issued Fatahs against America? No freakin' way. How about the Fundamentalist Islamic Forces shooting at our soldiers in Iraq? No Connection to Saddam. That's the whole point.

"compare radical Islam, of which Saddam was a part of ..."

Is what I'd addressed.

To the "NOTHING to do with Islam," my response might seem simplistic, but...

That's easy. Saddam supported Hamas, and we can read their charter. Written in 1988. I don't usually like to link to Wikipedia because of the relative ease of poor information slipping through, but I think in regards to a translation the mass-editing approach might actually be the best.
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Hamas_Covenant

Here are some quotes:
"There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors."

"Jihad is its path and death for the sake of Allah is the loftiest of its wishes."

"they fear Allah and raise the banner of Jihad in the face of the oppressors"

"Jihad is not confined to the carrying of arms and the confrontation of the enemy."
That one is the best. By saying it's "not confined to" it is admitted to be the prime mover.

"Initiatives, and so-called peaceful solutions and international conferences, are in contradiction to the principles of the Islamic Resistance Movement."

"It is necessary to instill in the minds of the Moslem generations that the Palestinian problem is a religious problem, and should be dealt with on this basis."

"...their lackeys who are infiltrated through Zionist organizations... such as... Rotary Clubs..., which are all nothing more than cells of subversion and saboteurs."
Sorry, I just thought that one was funny. Ruritans get the shaft again.
But when I read a little more I saw a bit just after that:
"The day Islam is in control of guiding the affairs of life, these organizations, hostile to humanity and Islam, will be obliterated."
I guess that Rotary Club bit was contextually valid after all.

"The Islamic Resistance Movement... prays to Allah for guidance and directions for all and it spares no effort to keep the banner of unity raised, ever striving for its realisation in accordance with the Koran and the Prophet's directives."

It looks like it all comes down to the (drastically paraphrased) Margaret Mead-ish "We don't kill humans, but it's okay to kill them. They're not human." And that's the difficult part of all of this.

"The day Islam is in control of guiding the affairs of life..."

Saddam didn't have anything to do with 9/11. No argument. Saddam supported the Palestinian us vs. them blow-yourself-up-for-us mentality, though. The same mindset that promotes what you'd mentioned in your last paragraph, and, from Hamas' own covenant, something steeped in Islamic thought. That is, to me, a connection.

Roger