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Mr. Mosca, your ideological slip is showing just a tad in your last paragraph. I find it strange that you would claim diversity is a key component to the marketplace, but then make a subtle call for the N&R to silence Davenport's voice. It's neat how you claim to embrace diversity but don't like, respect, or want differing views.

Roger

PS- Has anyone been able to figure out what "Any effort, corporate or governmental, should be applauded for stating that respect for diverse experience, culture and personality contributes more than the sum of individual efforts" means? The statement of respect means more than actual respect? Shallow and broadly-written corporate statements regarding diversity mean more than oddly matched individuals interacting and enjoying each other? Should I embrace diverse writing skills and pretend that it's a well-written (or edited) sentence and a valid idea?

I had to reread that statement Roger. "Any" effort? Just any 'ol effort? Corporate or governmental?

Mosca's last sentence caught me as well. He wants diversity yet on his terms.

From Davenport's column:

An example of superficial diversity comes to us from FedEx Freight, where "Diversity Week" was celebrated earlier this month. Like many major corporations, FedEx evidently believes it must shout from the rooftops its commitment to diversity in order to appease the self-appointed, bean-counting overlords of race and gender. Like most diversity initiatives, however, FedEx's festivities probably did more harm than good.

Managers, for instance, were urged to schedule a "Meet & Greet" one day during Diversity Week. On the appointed day, employees were greeted at the door and thanked for their efforts. This is a commendable gesture. But managers were also encouraged to give employees a "Celebrate Diversity sticker and maybe some other small token." Isn't it odd — if not condescending — to hand out balloons and stickers to grown men and women?

It seems appropriate that the corporate memo from which I quote (supplied by an anonymous source) mentions the term "token," which is what minorities become under a diversity regime. Rather than independent, accomplished individuals, blacks, women, immigrants, gays and lesbians become representatives of this or that aggrieved faction: tokens of diversity. The highest compliment employers can pay to minorities is to treat them exactly like everyone else: Give them equal opportunity and fair pay. This would demonstrate a company's commitment to authentic diversity. Handing out balloons and stickers while making a ceremonial fuss over gender, race, sexual orientation, etc., demonstrates a commitment to pandering — a commitment to superficial diversity.

Amen Charles.

http://www.news-record.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071028/NRSTAFF/71025032&template=printart

Dan, Dan.

You are too hard on corporations.

Fed-Ex and other corporations had BETTER "appease the self-appointed, bean-counting overlords of race and gender."

Failure to do so has serious consequences.

One company that has learned --- the hard way --- is Abercrombie & Fitch.

Excerpt below from a report by the National Legal and Policy Center:

In June 2003 MALDEF, the NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund, the Asian Pacific American Legal Center, and the law firm of Lieff, Cabraser, Heimann & Bernstein filed suit in federal court in San Francisco on behalf of nine young "students of color" who allegedly had been refused sales jobs, or terminated from them, on the basis of race or ethnicity. The case originated with a single plaintiff in 1999, but had grown to epic proportions once civil rights activists and their legal beagles scented a gold mine. Joining in the suit were the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, the law firm of Minami, Lew & Tamaki LLP, and a team of East Coast firms led by Kohn, Swift & Graf in Philadelphia. In November 2004 Abercrombie & Fitch capitulated, agreeing out of court to pay $40 million to Latino, African-American, Asian- American and female applicants who had charged the company with discrimination. The settlement, approved by U.S. District Judge Susan Illston, also required the company to institute "benchmark" goals for minority hiring, hire 25 recruiters to seek out such employees, and institute corporate diversity training. "This agreement promises to transform this company, whose distinctiveness will no longer stem from an all-white image and workforce," boasted MALDEF Vice President of Litigation Thomas A. Saenz.*

SEE: Abercrombie & Fitch’s Diversity/Inclusion Projects: http://www.abercrombie.com/anf/hr/jobs/diversity.html

*Excerpt from “Why Unions Promote Mass Immigration: Behind Organized Labor’s Interest-Group Alliances,” Carl F. Horowitz, Special Report, National Legal and Policy Center, 2006 [excerpts]
PDF file: http://www.google.com/search?as_q=&num=50&hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&btnG=Google+Search&as_epq=Why+Unions+Promote+Mass+Immigration&as_oq=&as_eq=&lr=&as_ft=i&as_filetype=&as_qdr=all&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&as_occt=any&as_dt=i&as_sitesearch=&as_rights=&safe=images

LESSON: When ethnic shake-down artists come to call, paying for "protection" makes good business sense.

Dan can always be counted on to go against anything that has to do with minorities and positive efforts to level the playing field. So, it doesn't come as a surprise that he fell in lockstep with Mr. Davenport. Mr. Davenport's column was a lazy piece of journalism. If he had done any research, he would have found out that FedEx has been lauded for its diversity initiatives http://commitment.fedex.designcdt.com/diversity_awards. FedEx talks the talk, but it also walks the walk when it comes to diversity. But, I don't think that Mr. Davenport's true aim was to critique FedEx's diversity goals; I think that his true mission was to write a veiled rant against affirmative action. I think that his piece was lazy work based on privileged arrogance. At their core, I think that Mr. Davenport and Dan are disciples of the Jesse Helms' School of Affirmative Action (remember the hands crumpling the rejection letter).

What Dan Mosca said in plain English is
" Freedom of speech is great ,if I agree with you."

Sounds like "Feel Good Policy" to me.

Let me restate that; Sounds like " Guvmint forced feel good policy".

Excellent post, Tom

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Conundrum,
Your comments are right on target about Dan, our little narcissist. (not the LTE writer)

"Dan can always be counted on to go against anything that has to do with minorities and positive efforts to level the playing field. So, it doesn't come as a surprise that he fell in lockstep with Mr. Davenport."

Or

"At their core, I think that Mr. Davenport and Dan are disciples of the Jesse Helms' School of Affirmative Action (remember the hands crumpling the rejection letter)."

Little Dan is, as he admits, the product of strict Southern Conservatism---which is not the same as the Conservatism of Barry Goldwater, Nelson Rockefeller, Jacob Javits, et al. His is of the old south, where just "saying everyone is equal" is the best eyewash. His lack of reading and any sign of intellectual curisosity goes a long way in explaining his lack of depth.
Conundrum, thank you again for bringing to light, the ignorance of those who post here, pretending to be angels when their actions and words prove their intransigent backwardness.

Postscript:
Oh, and those were "white hands" crumpling up a pink slip while the nararator spoke of whites losing jobs to minorities. Nothing veiled about it--just blatant redneck racism.

Conundrum, thank you again for pointing out the "veiled"racisim. Just watch out for the little fella to tell you he has black friends, and even adopted a black child from the continent of Africa---too funny how the narcissism manifests itself!

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Here is a the key point of Davenport's column:

"The highest compliment employers can pay to minorities is to treat them exactly like everyone else: Give them equal opportunity and fair pay."

If people are being discriminated against, denied employment, advancement, etc. based upon race that is wrong.

But to hand out stickers in the name of diversity to grown adults is insulting and accomplishes nothing. Just feel good stuff to please conundrum, Demon Deacon and the rest of the PC crowd.

Corporations probably feel they have to do this because of the fear of getting sued as Tom aptly illustrates.

Hence the reason Wachovia spends mega $$ researching predecessor companies involved with slavery, long before Wachovia existed, and issues gushing apologies for the actions of two banks 150 years ago.

The FedEx guy who delivers to my office is black, I'll have to ask him if he received his diversity sticker when he comes today.

"and even adopted a black child from the continent of Africa." As if that is a bad thing? Only you could see it that way.

My Fed Ex driver is perfectly capable of taking care of himself. He doesn't need a sticker from me. A 6 year old boy in Africa who lost his father to AIDS cannot take care of himself. That is where I'll send my money.

Dan, did you even bother to click on the link that I included in my initial posting? I can't believe that you continue to mention a sticker. That "black" FedEx driver that you keep referring to, has a job that he wouldn't have had 40 years ago in the good old South. He has a middle class income which enables him to live in a safe and clean neighborhood, and it allows him to send his children to a safe and clean school.

Don't ask the driver about the sticker. Ask him about the opportunities that FedEx offers to people who look like him? You strike me as being an educated man. Your focus shouldn't be so narrow.

Conundrum says to little Dan,
"You strike me as being an educated man. Your focus shouldn't be so narrow."

That is what has always amazed me about the little fella. Hence the statement that he's an inch deep and a mile wide. While he claims a hybrid UNCG/UNC education, he carries the baggage of myopic southern mores from a generation ago. I has to be that 'instilled' or institutionalized racism that causes Dan to see, yet still not believe.

Here is the meat that little Dan never seems to get, with his "treat everyone the same" argument:

"That "black" FedEx driver that you keep referring to, has a job that he wouldn't have had 40 years ago in the good old South. He has a middle class income which enables him to live in a safe and clean neighborhood, and it allows him to send his children to a safe and clean school.
Don't ask the driver about the sticker. Ask him about the opportunities that FedEx offers to people who look like him?"

Conundrum, I am so glad you have seen the ignorance as it is presented here. Believe me, it pervades little Dan's psyche, as his world view is not much different when discussing poverty, homosexuals, or the war in Iraq. He proves the old adage, "you can't make chicken salad out of chickensh_t!"

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Dan said:
"and even adopted a black child from the continent of Africa." As if that is a bad thing? Only you could see it that way.

My Fed Ex driver is perfectly capable of taking care of himself. He doesn't need a sticker from me. A 6 year old boy in Africa who lost his father to AIDS cannot take care of himself. That is where I'll send my money.

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Danny boy,
Just giving everyone a heads up to your usual shenanigans----it is, after all, always about YOU. (LOL!)

I did try to click on your link conundrum, it said "page not found".

"That "black" FedEx driver that you keep referring to, has a job that he wouldn't have had 40 years ago in the good old South. He has a middle class income which enables him to live in a safe and clean neighborhood, and it allows him to send his children to a safe and clean school."

Totally agree, that's the whole point. It's now 2007, not 1955. Society has made great strides in the last 40-50 years to allow equal opportunities for minorities. Some like Jackson, Sharpton, and Bond are still stuck in the 50's and 60's. Farakkan is even going backwards by calling for blacks to separate from whites. Seems he could use little "diversity".

Does racism still exist? Yes. On the level of 40-50 years ago? I think not.

"Give them equal opportunity and fair pay".

That should go for everyone. Giving opportunity however, shouldn't mean special favors (ie. affirmative action) or recognition based upon the color of ones skin. Equal opportunity also doesn't guarantee an equal result for everyone. Some people achieve higher goals than others regardless of race. Clarence Thomas comes to mind. Even if you don't care for Thomas' opinions, the fact that he overcame dire poverty to become a supreme court justice is commendable.

The FedEx guy came by an hour ago. I asked him if he attended the diversity celebrations. Nope he said; "I was too busy working". Go figure.

Do something useful for a change Demon Deacon:

http://search.earthlink.net/search?q=african+child+sponsorship&area=earthlink-ws&channel=narrowband&FD=0&

Danny,
Your narcissism is palpable! You make the assumption that YOU are in such a league of your own by donating to charity--which makes me howl with laughter! Glad you found an internet service where you could "adopt", get a picture and possibly some artwork from your adopted child.

Clap, clap, clap for little Danny.

I know your family is proud of you and that you are "keeping score" for yourself. After all, you are one to keep score, archives, etc. You MUST brag about it publicly so people can tell you how great you are. (look up narcissism)
Guess it helps you feel good about
yourself---cause heaven forbid you do it for reasons of altrusim! No, Danny. If there is one thing glaringly obvious about you--it is that you are NOT an altruist. Auguste Comte never would envision a narcissist like you to embody the word he coined in 1851.

Little fella, you need to read more and try to form your own world view, not the one you've co-opted from "daddy" and Rush.

Oh, but good try on the charity schtick! Loved it.

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Yaaaaaaaawwwwwwnnnnnnn

Conundrum,
How does it feel to get a virtual hum job over the internet?

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When caught and exposed, little Danny says,

"Yaaaaaaaawwwwwwnnnnnnn"

That's really all he COULD say, after having his usual narcissistic blather, pre-empted by truth.

Sorry he didn't get to tell conundrum how he's opposed to gay rights, but that he has a gay relative. Sorry he didn't get to tell conundrum how he wants to send his kids to private 'bible school' but that has black friends (heck one of them drives for Fedex!) and knows some other minorities too--maybe some actually moved into his neighborhood. And I'm sure he was dying to tell conundrum how he thinks the government should get off the backs of Americans, but that he's for criminalizing abortion--per his 'Priest Website'. Nope, it was just not a good day for narcissism and hypocrisy. We've grown to know ye well, little fella.

Cheers!

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Since taking my first "diversity" class on board my ship in 1973, I have been schooled by an ever more self-propogating quasi-intellectual class of instructers whose sole purpose in life is to convince one group to be more accepting of another. What I have noticed is that they are very good at teaching those who hold prejudices to speak in codes that will not reveal their true inner feelings. All you have to do is sit in a bar with a group who have just been re-educated and have a few drinks, and you'll see just how effective this charade is.
Something about a silk purse from a sow's ear....

And I'm sure the shallow thinkers on this posting will be glad to point out my bigotry for making this observation- so be it. My poker deck don't contain no race cards.

"My poker deck don't contain no race cards."

Well, your post, above, certainly does.

Ellis,
In all fairness, your post does point out the charades put on by some who post here, like little Dan. They hide behind words like, "treat everyone the same" as if history can be swept under the rug--makes them feel better, and publicly softens the personal hardness of their hearts.

"Sorry he didn't get to tell conundrum how he's opposed to gay rights, but that he has a gay relative. Sorry he didn't get to tell conundrum how he wants to send his kids to private 'bible school' but that has black friends (heck one of them drives for Fedex!) and knows some other minorities too--maybe some actually moved into his neighborhood. And I'm sure he was dying to tell conundrum how he thinks the government should get off the backs of Americans, but that he's for criminalizing abortion--per his 'Priest Website'."

See below. Same shit different day. Yaaaaaawwwnnn.

"Denzien,
He does not read, and is a homophobe of the worst kind--"
Posted by: DemonDeacon at November 25, 2006 10:54 AM

"It's not just those like Dan who would love to tell you what to do, but the entire Catholic hierarchy--yes, a bunch of old unmarried men, once again, keeping women subservient to their every whim. That's where the real hypocrisy comes in. Dan is just a part of the same hypocrisy."
Posted by THE LIBERAL CONSERVATIVE | May 17, 2007 4:53 PM

Dan,
"If you really cared about your pretend friend (ie. gay) of 20 years, why would you want him excluded from all sorts of organizations because he was born that way?" Posted by: DemonDeacon at November 22, 2006 08:05 PM

"It's not just those like Dan who would love to tell you what to do, but the entire Catholic hierarchy--yes, a bunch of old unmarried men, once again, keeping women subservient to their every whim. That's where the real hypocrisy comes in. Dan is just a part of the same hypocrisy."
Posted by THE LIBERAL CONSERVATIVE | May 17, 2007 4:53 PM

THE LIBERAL CONSERVATIVE said:

Dan: "You are the worst kind of racist, one who won't admit he was pre-loaded with racism by his parents and hasn't changed much since.
Posted on October 3, 2007 12:28 PM

Need more? I have plenty. Do I detect a pattern here? Yep. Every day it's Dan is a racist, homophobe, narcissist, blah blah blah. Same shit different day.

Actually Demon Deacon, we are on the same team working for the same goal. You just don't realize it.

Jonniebgood had it pegged, so did Swanks:

TLC,
Once, in a blue moon, you actually raise a cognizant thought and make me think that your drivel is worth slightly more than the excrement on the bottom of my shoe.
Then, however, you go and make a series of posts that make me somewhat angry at myself for being lulled into a sense that you may be taken seriously someday.
Your partisan tripe is what is laughable. Is it such a foreign concept to you that other people's lives revolve around more than just what political party they are? Have you ever given any thought to the concept that another person is just as entitled to their ideas as you are? Is it completely impossible for you to engage in any semblance of a sane and rational conversation for longer than a single post?
Have you ever wondered why you are one of the few posters that seems to be ignored on a regular basis, except for the posts, like this one, that are in direct opposition to you?

DD, I have no idea who you are, nor do I can to know. But one thing that I do know about you, and I know it as well as I know my own name, is that the DD in person is far from the DD you portray yourself as on these blogs.

Here, you are able to insult, annoy and act like a general buffoon without regard to anything. In person, you would never speak to anyone like you do here. You are but a sad little man who must retreat into the cyber world in order to be the bully, as you are unable to stick up for yourself in the real world. Alligator's mouth and a hummingbird's ass.
I especially find it ironic that you mention this is the greatest country in the world after you had previously, proudly announced how you cowardly sewed Canadian flags on your AND YOUR FAMILY'S luggage when traveling abroad. If you really thought this country where so great, then you would have no reason to be ashamed of it, other than a fear of what other people may think about you.

So go ahead, little man, sit there and stew about the comeback you want to make against me. I know that you will have a hard time formulating something new and not bastardizing someone else's ideas (JDR's "little kitty and your own moniker as examples). To keep it simple, stick to your old standard comebacks which include, but are not limited to:
1) ask me about my name
2) tell me I come from the shallow end of the gene pool
3) ask about the wheels on my trailer home
4) call me a rabid partisan (such delicious irony makes this one my personal favorite)
5) tell me to watch more than just Sean Hannity and listen to more than Rush

By this point, despite myself, I am starting to feel more than a little pity for you. So go ahead and craft your comeback. Say what you want about me and I will not respond to it. Call me anything you want and I will not respond to you on this issue, at this time.
Instead, I will let all the other posters read each of our posts and they can make their own judgments about us.
I am not afraid of peer review, DD. Are you?
Posted by swanks | May 12, 2007 11:21 AM

Do I detect a pattern here?

Forgot one of my favorites:

Just go on and profess your love, DemonDeacon, and get it over with. I know I'm not alone in saying I'm tired of watching you flirt with Dan.
I hate to call you out, but it's EVERY single thread. Damn. Grow up.
Posted by: Denzien at January 15, 2007 06:06 PM

It's still EVERY single thread Denzien. Same shit different day.

Oooopps, got the Catholic Demon Deacon quote in twice. My apologies. I have a dozen or so of them and meant to post two separate ones.

Keep up the good work Demon Deacon!! I need more keepers. We are on the same team :)

W.J., I'm with you. I'd rather know the person I'm dealing with instead of being surprised by a facade.

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What's the difference between David Duke and Robert Byrd?

(No, it's not age. I'll grant you that Duke wasn't much more than a boy when Byrd was finishing up his 14 hour 13 minute address railing against passage of the Civil Rights Act in 1964, back when politicians actually knew what filibustering was, but that's not it.)

What's the difference? Diversity training.

Roger

Ahhh, Robert Byrd (D-WV), former KKK member.