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Exactly, Mr. Hall, exactly. Thank you.

Mr. Hall, I have but one question. Where will, "...thousands of area families were able to experience "the Thrill of the Grass" this summer at North Carolina's many fantastic (and green) minor league baseball parks.

Thankfully, Bryan Park continues to be a safe and fun place for thousands of area kids to play soccer on wonderfully soft, green grass fields. I, for one, am ecstatic that our climatically challenged neighbors to the north bring their vacation dollars south every fall and winter to play golf on our wonderful courses!" go when we no longer have the water resources to: 1) keep these places "green" and 2) there are no water resources to support these "visitors" much less the native people?

Thanks for your answer Mr. Hall.

Shalom

I'm sorry but this doesn't fly with me. I'm a year-round contributor to this economy with my tax dollars as well as my spending dollars.

If I can't enjoy a green lawn, these snowbirds shouldn't either.

Agreed Nit. What's more important, city residents being able to bathe, wash clothes, cook or snow birds being able to tee off on a green golf course.

Last week's rain helped, my lawn is green again. I still don't think some understand the seriousness of this drought. Atlanta has about 90 days of water left. I doubt it's ever happened before, but could you imagine a major American city running out of water?

http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/stories/2007/10/10/wateruse_1011.html

I don't know Dan.

I'm thinking New Orleans part 2.

How can they pin it on Bush?

"How can they pin it on Bush?"

That's easy Nit, Bush didn't sign Kyoto. Thus he has greatly contributed to global warming, which causes drought in areas. Additionally, he's in the pocket of "big oil" which also adds to global warming.

RFK, Jr. used the same logic in blaming Bush for Katrina. Said he didn't sign Kyoto, which has led to more hurricanes. Funny though, the last two hurricane seasons have been rather quiet.

"What's more important, city residents being able to bathe, wash clothes, cook or snow birds being able to tee off on a green golf course?"

JEEZE Dan, you sound like a Classic Liberal !!

Consider this: Water gets real short in supply, prices go way up, and those that haze pulled themselves up by the boot straps can afford it and those living off the g-man dole cannot.

Now I'm teasing a bit .. but only a bit .. 'cause those are the same arguments I've been speaking out against for ... well let's see .. using this specific example .. I can remember "water supplies" - and the abuse of same - being a topic in my life since at least 1977 .. when I learned aquifers were being pumped beyond sustainable levels.

HAZE = HAVE

"JEEZE Dan, you sound like a Classic Liberal !!"

Never been accused of that before JDR.

I'm just pragmatic. Water is in short supply and is a vital resource. I just think bathing, cooking, and washing clothes trump green golf courses during such a severe drought.

I guess in your rich vs poor scenario water will be covered under food stamps and WIC. So they have nothing to worry about :-)

As an engineer, let me know what you think about this story:

http://www.newsobserver.com/weather/drought/story/756482.html

PCS Phosphate is a client of mine.

I'm just pragmatic .. ME TOO.

Water is in short supply and is a vital resource ..

Oil is in short supply and is a vital resource .. before you laugh I bet my personal life there is more water than oil ...

Breathable Air is in [relatively] short supply and is a vital resource ..

.. I could go on and list just about everything you ever heard of ...

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".. in your rich vs poor scenario " ..

I never said that .. the question I rasie is why are those born into wealth given greater access to the commons than the poor? Think again of English Baron that hung the peasant because that starving peasant dared to hunted dear on the Baron's 1000 acre estate ... (which all he did to "earn" was be born")?

As an engineer: The newsobserver tells an age old story. Here's another real situation: It can be argued that electric motors - which generate ozone (O3) which in turn is a major cause of Smog - could fill the "ozone" holes created by fluorocarbons, holes which are literally the atmosphere short on O3. The problem is the motors are typically "here" and the stratosphere is "there".

Another scenario I'm having recent fun with: The Drought could be cured by desalination plants: the rising seas are converted from salt water to potable water that is pumped to the triad .. all viable, all lacking economic reality, cause as in the PCS Phosphate story, the water is "there" and the drought is "here".

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BTW - I'd be perfect at PCS Phosphate - a Mechanical Engineer with years of experience in both the heavy chemicals industry and surface mining.

.. just think of robber barons the next time you are trying to understand where my posts are coming from .. and consider this too ..

About 100 years ago, my Great Uncle and a dozen of his friends OWNED America .. been left unchecked we would be The United States of Rockefeller-Vanderbilt-Carnegie.

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Emphasize individual rights and equality of opportunity via a true market economy. Encourage a free exchange of ideas. Assure all citizens have equal rights under rules of law. Unite through extensive freedom of thought and speech. Demand a transparent system of government, with power limited though open and fair elections.

What the hell is wrong with that?

Dan, Atlanta has a 90 day supply of water? The Army says it has a 6 months supply if it does not rain one drop.

Dog, I'm just going with the link I've provided and other similar reports I've seen.

"the question I rasie is why are those born into wealth given greater access to the commons than the poor?"

I think you can answer that.

You probably would do well at PCS, I just visited there today.