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Rights on the highway carry responsibilities

Motorcyclists cry out for their "rights." What rights? We do not have the right to do anything on the public highway.

We have the privilege to have a driver's license if we meet certain criteria and demonstrate a proficiency to operate a motor vehicle within the parameters of the laws that govern the privilege. If we exceed the human factor (acquire sufficient "points"), our privilege can be reduced or revoked. The only right we have in this state and country is to be able to apply for the privilege.

A larger question would be if a motorcyclist should have the privilege of riding without a helmet. Taking an approach much like the concealed-carry permit, a motorcyclist with the privilege of riding without a helmet would agree and demonstrate the ability to meet certain criteria. Would such a rider agree to demonstrate his ability to operate a motorcycle via a program such as BikeSafe or another real-world program on a scheduled basis?

Age or maturity of the rider would also factor in. Would he agree to zero tolerance (just like the concealed-carry permit holder) regarding alcohol? Many single-vehicle crashes involving motorcycles also involve alcohol.

Jack Snead
Jamestown

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neocon [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

Motorcycle riders also have the privilege of funding the highways through confiscatory tax rates too.

"The only right we have in this state and country is to be able to apply for the privilege."

"Baah, baah, baah"...

Crime Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

In 1971 I was riding a BSA 650CC lightning model motorcycle in Miami, FL. As I was approaching a red light light, I slowed to a crawl, preparing to stop behind a car in front of me.
The light turned green, and the car in front of me went through the intersection. I started accelerating through the intersection. Suddenly a big Oldsmobile came racing through the intersection on my left, It's driver trying to bust the yellow light, instead of stopping.
The impacted threw me quite a few feet through the air. I had broken ribs, my left upper arm was fractured, and I lost some teeth.
I was rushed to a hospital and spent almost a week, there. I had to go through therapy for my healing arm. And have reconstructive surgury on my mouth.
I was given my helmet back. It had a huge crack that went from the left all the way to the right, across the top. If it did not cover my head, that would have been my head.
Now, all of you motorcyclist that cry about wearing a helmet, listen up. It's not you are reckless. It's the operator of the 3,000 pound auto that is going to impact you, and kill you.
I was a very safe and responsible motorcycle driver. The driver that impacted me was a drunk determined to "make the light". No matter who she murdered doing it.
Unlike a car that surrounds you with some protection, there is no cover for you on a motorcycle. Even a very minor motorcycle is very painful for the riders.
And, I've heard stubburn motorcyclist tell me, "Well, I haven't been killed, yet". Well, Duhhh! Or, "it's my life". No, it's not your life. Your life belongs to those that love you. Those that will feel their hearts ripped from them, if you die, under any circumstances.
And, if this message blows over your head, please sign up as a total organ donor, before your head is cracked in half. Maybe a few pieces of you can go on living in the bodies of someone smarter than you. The Dog's outa here.
Crime Dog

Anarcho-capitalist [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

Jack Snead says,

"We do not have the right to do anything on the public highway. We have the privilege to have a driver's license if we meet certain criteria and demonstrate a proficiency to operate a motor vehicle within the parameters of the laws that govern the privilege."

Those statements would be correct if the people issuing the licenses were legitimate owners of the roads. They are not. The land on which the roads lie and the money used to build the roads were stolen. Since there is no legitimate owner of the roads and since my money was used to build them, I do have rights on the roads.

Anarcho-capitalist [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

Crime Dog writes:

"And, I've heard stubburn motorcyclist tell me, 'it's my life'. No, it's not your life. Your life belongs to those that love you. Those that will feel their hearts ripped from them, if you die, under any circumstances."

Wow. So you're telling me that every person is a slave to those who love them?

Crime Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

Well, Anarcho--, you can not feel for others what you do not have. That's love. It's not slavery to love my family and great friends, and then morn for them and miss them forever, because some act of stupidity, no matter who's, takes them from me. That's love!
I know that's a strange word for you. I don't want to start a rant, because you serve no other greater purpose than yourself. The Dog's outa here, again.
Crime Dog

Anarcho-capitalist [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

Crime dog,

Are you telling me that Person A has no right to leave his/her boyfriend/girlfriend and go somewhere where that person will never see Person A again? That, among plenty of other things, is the consequence of what you are claiming.

Here you alter what I said:

"It's not slavery to love my family and great friends, and then morn for them and miss them forever, because some act of stupidity, no matter who's, takes them from me."

I didn't say it's slavery for you to love someone. What I was getting at is that to claim to own someone else's life is slavery, which is what you said is the case.

If you love someone, you let them live as they please. Are you telling me that if you had a spouse whose biggest dream was to sky-dive or do some other equally dangerous activity, you would prohibit her, by force of law, from doing so because you love her so much?

Crime Dog [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

Why am I even taking the time to answer back to this? Anarcho, You are about as irrational on this subject as you can get, and I'm not talking about a loved one leaving. I'm talking about a loved one that is killed, through stupidity.
I'm talking about common sense verses stupidity. I'm talking about life verses death. Good health verses being accidently handicapped. There is a big difference between these. This has nothing to do with slavery.
If you can not see the difference, you are truly in your own world of self-service. No, I'm not asking you to make sense or even be real. I'll never ask someone to be what is impossible for them to be. Once again, The Dog is outa here.
Crime Dog

Anarcho-capitalist [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

Crime Dog,

What you said was that your life belongs, "...to those that love you. Those that will feel their hearts ripped from them, if you die, under any circumstances."

If what you say is true, then does it really matter whether those people's hearts are ripped out because you're dead or because you forsake them? Either way, their hearts are ripped out. Shouldn't people, then, according to your statements, be forbidden to do anything which may rip out the hearts of the people who love them?

You say:

"I'm not talking about a loved one leaving. I'm talking about a loved one that is killed, through stupidity."

So answer my question: If you love someone, do you think they should be forbidden by force of law to do anything which those who make the law deem to be "stupid," whether it be sky-diving, cigarette-smoking, or anything else?

And if you love someone, why would you forcefully stop them from doing something they want to do?

And again I ask you to explain how claiming to own someone else is not claiming them to be your slave. That's what slavery is, after all--ownership of another person.

Nic Danger [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

As a motorcyclist, I cannot imagine riding without a helmet. As a Liberterian, I resent the nanny-state mentality of s government that requires me to do so. My decision to wear a helmet - or any protective gear - should depend on my insurance. If i were an insurer, I would certainly write into a policy a clause that reduces or eliminates coverage if a helmet were not being worn at the time of an accident. As a motorcyclist, it would be my choice to purchase the policy, or chance large medical bills.

I was a youngster in a state that made it mandatory to havea helmet on the motorcycle. My bikers strappedthe helmet to the back of the seat and rode with the wind in their hair. I believed then, and i believe now, that the law was the result of lobbying by the industry that manufactured the helmets.

BTW, I feel the same about seat blelt laws. The decision to use them or not should be mine, not a mandate from the government.

Anarcho-capitalist [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

Nic Danger,

As a Libertarian, you should come to our meetings! They're every first and third Thursday of the month at Green Bean at 7:00. The next one is the 17th.

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