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This letter is absolutely astounding in it's revelation of our contemporary generation of college students. I read it in the print N&R at the kitchen table and nearly dropped my cereal on the floor.

"As a working student, I have only been offered financial aid in the form of student loans, which require repayment."

Yep...uh huh....that would be the definition of a loan. You borrow money and then pay it back. Imagine that.

Let me get this straight Stacie, the govt. is supposed to give everyone free money for their college education? Where does this money come from? How about your food, transportation, shelter, books, clothing and other needs during your education. Since you don't want to be "forced to work full time" perhaps the govt. should offer these free as well. That way you can focus only on your education.

Our American experiment has failed as Neo mentioned earlier. People want the school system to tell them when to drive or not, now Stacie here is repulsed by the idea of borrowing money for her education and actually paying it back.

"Our legislators should take a hard look at students who put themselves through school and how much debt they incur while doing so."

How about our legislators taking a "hard look" at my power bill, my grocery bill, and while they're at it, I'd like to upgrade my satellite system. Oh, and I still want that new Tahoe, but every time I approach a salesperson about it, they always come up with these annoying 'loan contracts'... expecting me to sign them. What's up with that?

Stacie, it's victims like you that created the welfare state which has bankrupted the country.

Dan , Neocon right on the money. I worked a full time job and a part time job and went to school. My wife worked and raised our two children. So Stacie excuse me if I do not give a green apple, about you expecting something for nothing. Seems I heard JFK say ask not would the country can do for you, but what you can do for your country! And those privileged students, you may find that these students came from folks that worked to get where they are. Sadly the word work as been replaced by GIMMIE.

Dan,
Tread lightly...she is a student at YOUR alma mater.

I'm going to be branded a sexist for even mentioning this, but I've never been one to care what people think. When I was in school, I saw literally thousands of scholarships... for women. Never did I see any scholarships specifically for men. Ms. Hazelwood already has plenty of free money. She just needs to know where to look for it.

Like TDBB, I worked several jobs while in school and used Federal Stafford loans. It was hard work, but I think having to do it this way made me appreciate it more. Folks in this generation seem to want everything handed to them. I suppose they'll never know the satisfaction of working hard to achieve their dreams.

When i gradyeated fourth grade, my pa told me i could either mow for a livin or pick up cans by the side of the road. Now i kan't spect the government to by me a new snapper mower, i just gotta come up with a few more hundered thousand cans to get my own.

ya'll wave when you go by...

I worked the entire time I was in school. I still had time to study and do quite well.

Was it easy? No, it wasn't. But work helped me stay focused and it also helped me decide what things I liked and didn't like in the area of employment.

It also gave me a sense of accomplishment.

It took me about a year longer, but when I graduated, I had not one penny in student debt.

Hard work won't hurt you. Instead of Stacie expecting taxpayers to make her college life a breeze, she needs to buckle down, work her butt off, and prove something to herself.

What's hilarious to me is that she will insinuate that the financial aid process is giving hand-outs to blacks but that it's okay for her to get them.

"I have also noticed that certain minorities often get offered financial aid that doesn't require repayment"

I'm not saying that's incorrect but it's my understanding that much of that aid does require repayment. It just never gets paid back and many times the student never gets a degree.

The government is tightening those rules, however.

According to John Robinson, Editor, he notified Allen Johnson of concerns regarding the personal attacks by THE LIBERAL CONSERVATIVE that I posted here and on the Editor’s Log yesterday.
Still, not a single word. The silence speaks VOLUMES!
People have been kicked off of this blog for their crude attacks on other and their hate-filled speech.
One person received this email from Allen Johnson when they were booted:
"As you seem intent on ignoring our taste guidelines, we are banning you from commenting on our letters blog"
Allen Johnson
Editorial Page Editor, News & Record
373-7010
ajohnson@news-record.com

Yet, a blog bully is allowed to run rampant stating that a fellow blogger's priest is a pedophile.

THE EVIDENCE SPEAKS FOR ITSELF!
I'll post it again below.
I'd like to challenge my fellow bloggers to see how many are willing to sign beneath my post to request action against someone who is so obviously "intent on ignoring our taste guidelines".
Whether it is to kick him off or just to condemn those kinds of personal attacks, action is definitely warranted.

Personal Attacks by The Liberal Conservative January 2008

You are a GOP hack. 1/31/08
you're a real mental midget there Hugh 1/29/08
You continue to be the one dimensional mouthpiece for idiots across America 1/29/08
You are pathetic 1/28/08
You are too ignorant to see how ridiculous your posts are. 1/29/08
You are a shallow little man, Danny. Inch deep and mile wide! 1/28/08
you always liked the way he "kept the ni__ers down" 1/28/08
Obviously a letter from a very poorly educated woman--neo, is this your wife? 1/28/08
You are an IDIOT! 1/28/08
You are so shallow. 1/28/08
You are an idiot! Can you not read? 1/29/08
In case you two blithering idiots missed it 1/29/08
you are just another low life bigot 1/29/08
Better hurry along to your KKK meeting, Nitracist. We wouldn't want you to be late.....1/29/08
Neocon, once again, proves he is one dimensional. 1/24/08
Since facts are not his forte, Danny just tries bullsh-t. 1/24/08
Were you a patient of Dr. Freeman, the pioneer of the transverse bi-lateral labotomy?1/23/08
Your ignorance is ONLY exceeded by your inability to feel shame 1/22/08
Your ignorance is beyond comprehension! 1/19/08
I don't think you'll be able to impeach Hillary over a muff dive! 1/18/08
You are a dinosaur! 1/18/08
Tonymo or "Tony Mostschitti" is nothing but a partisan blowhard 1/17/08
moron, racist, dimwit, international spastic and otherwise menial nobody 1/18/08
You’re a brick shy of a load 1/17/08
Just go away, or post on some White Supremacist's website! 1/17/08
You have little to say and what you do say is pointless. 1/17/08
you would go over like a turd in a punchbowl at a Friends Meeting 1/17/08
Well, obviously you are just too stupid to read them 1/18/08
take this up with "Dan" our resident narcissist 1/17/08
Surprised little Danny and nitpicker aren't just espousing all sorts of "ideas" on this thread1/17/08
You are impervious to your own ignorance
To be a racist requires one to be ignorant--you are guilty on both counts! 1/17/08
Why don't you just: Go AWAY! 1/16/08
Little fella, you are such a narcissist. Probably henpecked at home 1/14/08
Until then, stay under the porch with the little dogs. 1/14/08
Your posts could be compared to "refried beans" straight from Mi Pueblo or Taco Bell.1/14/08
You can't make chicken salad out of chicken sh_t! 1/16/08
Have you NO shame or are you really that dense? 1/14/08
Well, the cesspool crew has slapped each other on the back so much, they actually believe themselves....sheesh!1/13/08
Can't be Dan--he's not smart enough 1/14/08
Can't be neocon, as his lazy-Boy and computer are joined 1/14/08
Just when you thought that racist, and religious bigot, "Nitpicker" couldn't get much more ridiculous he outdoes himself1/14/08
Hey nitpicker---HERE'S YOUR SIGN!1/14/08
You are truly a sad figure 1/14/08
Only a few "nutjobs" out there still don't get it, but as you can tell from neocon, they are as intransigent as ever---rarely right, but never uncertain! 1/12/08
With Dan, it's just narcissism, pure and simple. With neocon, it really looks more like insanity.1/12/08
Too late here......two turds are circling the bowl! 1/12/08
You've gotten a taste of this blog's resident "narcissist" or "little Danny". 1/12/08
Stay under the porch with the little dogs. 1/13/08
You, more than adequately, made a bigger fool of yourself through your post than I could ever do for you. 1/13/08
I am embarrassed for you.1/14/08
Deprived of the attention you craved as a child, you are obviously seeking it here!1/14/08
Weeping Jesus on the cross, you are one emotionally needy little fella!1/14/08
When the doctors write the book on you, the first chapter should be titled, "A Cry For Help" 1/14/08
You are the poster child for narcissism, and you haven't a clue.1/14/08
You might really want to consider consulting a medical professional now, as it will only get worse and your children will pick up on it.1/15/08
Ask your "ex-wife" about your denial, then at the appropriate time, kindly ask your wife how she feels about your behavior. 1/15/08
You truly need to seek some help 1/15/08
Are you impervious to your own ignorance? 1/12/08
Here's a little something that nitpicker and his like-minded gutter dwellers can read and weep 1/12/08
I'm still stupefied by that ridiculous post you made. 1/07/08
are you going to admit your ignorance 1/07/08
What a genetic boulliabasse! These right wing Christians are "wacked out" on something! 1/5/08
Lilbean, what the heck have you been smoking?1/5/08
The real faux Christians are the Southern Baptists who twist every little scripture in a way to control 1/5/08
She has no clue! 1/5/08
Poor neocon, and his sidecar buddy, Little Danny, 1/4/08
Dan once again proves to be an inch deep and a mile wide. 1/4/08
Speaking of ignorance and partisanship, it is ALWAYS nice to see Tony Mostschitti post!! 1/4/08
Tonymo is the most one dimensional person to post here. 1/4/08
He is the classic "blowhard" from the North who, like a painful hemorrhoid, came down and stayed. 1/4/08
THIS IS THE MOST RIDICULOUS SHOW OF IGNORANCE IN QUITE SOME TIME! 1/3/08
Did Forest Gump have a retarded brother---now living in Oak Ridge??? 1/4/08
Leave your vapid thoughts and T-H-I-N-K for a change 1/4/08
Or will you be like nitprick, and spout some ridiculous rumor 1/4/08
Thanks for making me almost pee my pants at your ridiculous posts! 1/4/08
OMG! Call the white coats, poor old nitwit has gone mad. 1/4/08
I hate making fun of mentally ill folks, but it seems that old nit has gone past his "Sell by" date! 1/4/08
Geez Louise! Someone get these nutcakes back to their dorms. 1/4/08DING, DING, DING!!! A new contender for STUPIDEST POST OF THE DAY: 1/4/08
neo and Dan drink from the same swill of FoxNews. Poor Dan has no clue how stupid he appears to normal people, but I think neo knows he's off his rocker but not to the actual extent! 1/5/08
Dan attacks the messenger. It is the extent of his cerebral capacity as he is quite limited in that area. 1/5/08
As I've said many times, he's an inch deep and a mile wide. 1/5/08
Tell us "WHY" we should respect and wallow in his excrement as you do 1/5/08
Rather than post your usual drivel, just answer the question. See if you can do that this time.1/5/08

I could never be a Republican, because I would have to hate black people, Mexicans, and gay people
Bottom line is they are mostly like Dan, no substance, just armchair ideology.1/5/08
I just love it when our resident Partisan, Tony Mostschitti comments. He probably goes to church, parties, family gatherings etc, and separates everyone into "LIBERALS" and whatever his idea du jour of "CONSERVATIVES" is. The man has no idea what a joke he is, but rather thinks of himself as the ONLY way.
Like I said, I do love it when he opens his mouth and removes all doubt! 1/5/08

Wow! Like we couldn't have predicted that kind of rubbish coming from you. How about posting your highest level of education, neo? Based on your posts, my guess would be "some high school". Sheesh! 1/3/08
That's because the people you hang around with have no clue. Your small gaggle of friends wouldn't know culture if it bit them on the arse and you are the mirror image of that group. Maybe you can answer the question posed about your highest level of education received?? 1/3/08
So, neo, was the third grade your high water mark?
Or, could it be you are just an armchair bigot, who feels betrayed by the "system" and therefore you blame your failings on others???
Or maybe, just maybe, your alligator mouth got way ahead of your mental faculties??? 1/4/08
Why are you such a coward?1/4/08
you just an armchair critic with an alligator mouth and hummingbird's ass?
Well, it appears 2008 will continue to have the far right wingers yacking like always. 1/1/08

Nit, DD spouts the PC talking points that are the meat of the N&R agenda.

These editors get paid to push their point then deflect and dismiss any criticisms directed that way. A "maybe we were wrong" is the closest I've ever seen them admit to being imperfect, with the exception being retractions of irrefutable, inaccurate facts in articles when they are challenged.

Bishop,

I remember being called a sexist also, for my defense of a woman's right to make her own decision regarding her own body. Life goes on and we are not hindered by what others think, especially when we are right (smile).

Since I was the recipient of federal aid for my education, I feel qualified to offer a different POV than most of you have posted. As most of you know, I found myself, at age 28, out of a job (my plant closed), divorced and raising three sons. I had no parents, grandparents or husband to help me. The CETA program was in effect then so I applied. (This program was open to men also, Bishop.)

I worked a public job and went to nursing school while struggling to raise my sons with solid values. For every hour I was in school, I received minimum wage. CETA also paid for my textbooks and my mileage back and forth for clinical (I think 32 cents/mile).

The help I received did not come close to making ends meet. That's the reason I also worked a public job. But that small hand up made the difference between me becoming a real good taxpayer and a permanent drain on the taxpayer. The investment the government made in me has been paid back many fold. A private investor could hope to make such a profit!

My kids wore clothes from the thrift stores. I made menus and shopped, sticking to my list. We did without frills and had skimpy Christmases. That was about thirty years ago and I can't see where it hurt us.

My point is, unless you have walked a mile in someone else's shoes, don't judge them. Government aid is not always a negative, especially when there are motivated individuals. And it sounds like the letter writer is motivated. She just needs a hand up. Frankly, if we can hand all this money to illegals, why can't we make an investment in our adult citizens?

"My kids wore clothes from the thrift stores. I made menus and shopped, sticking to my list. We did without frills and had skimpy Christmases. That was about thirty years ago...."

For me, that's right now, girl.

Been there and still doing that. Not eligible for any aid from the government, though.

Yvonne, you succeeded in the system as it was. Just goes to show how tough and strong you are. You are right that sometimes the system is designed to keep people down. However, people don't have to give into it. They do have a choice. And sometimes, self-respect is worth putting in the extra effort. Just my opinion.

Yvonne,

"The CETA program was in effect then so I applied. (This program was open to men also, Bishop.)"

I never said there were no programs that men could apply for. What I said was: Never did I see any scholarships ***specifically*** for men.

There are thousands of women ***only*** scholarships that exist. Men aren't even given a shot at these funds. While there may now be a handful of scholarships that cater to men, their numbers pale in comparison; and usually women can apply for the aid as well.

... Oh, and when I'm told that I don't have the "privilege" of choosing whether my child is born or not, yet am expected to cover every red cent of his/her development I'd say that's a bit sexist. Perhaps you should take some of your own advice and walk a mile in someone else's shoes before passing judgment.

I don't recall making a statement like that Bishop. But whatever.

You sound bitter. I hope a better day will come to you soon. This is a sincere wish for you.

You must have a selective memory. If pointing out that father's have responsibilities yet no rights makes me bitter so be it.

If pointing out that; it is somehow politically correct to have a female only scholarship but male only scholarships are sexist; makes me bitter, so be it.

It blows my mind the number of women who will cry sexism, yet have no problem when men's rights get trampled.