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Must be snake oil

I don't understand the new math. Oil goes up from $99 a barrel to $100 a barrel (a 1 percent increase), and the price at the pump immediately goes up 20 cents (a 7 percent increase).

I guess that's what I get for using a calculator not made by Exxon/Mobil.

Dan Flak
Greensboro

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Remember when gas was 3.25, how much was oil per barrel then? About $75 was it not? A man on Fox news explained this yesterday, I was not paying much attention, do not remember the details. However I do remember all those liberals telling us when we take over the price will come down. Now they are in charge it's up about 40%, what calculator, do they use? Allen Johnson, you printed all them lte, saying gas would come down, when the liberals took over, jump right in here and tell us, what went wrong!

Kat in the Hat [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

It's all a rip off in my humble opinion...
Let's see, Bush said he had no idea that gas might cost four dollars a gallon. So reckon he has not purchased any in a good while...ha-ha...
As far as I am concerned, the government will not be happy until they have us all on mass transit and can account for every person and where they are off to each day...
Sad demise to this country huh...vote...maybe then something will be done to move us in a better direction for the future...for now... mine goes out the end of a tail pipe of one kind or another...laughing...before I cry...

Oak Ridge Runner [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

Kat,

Okay, so who do you suggest that we vote for that is going to get something done to fix this problem?

James D. Rockefeller [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

ORR and others: ... please explain to me exactly what this problem is?

Is it Gas Price is too high?

In Commie Venezuela it was* $0.12 a gallon.
(* March, 2005 prices, surely higher now).

.. and in Socialist Europe, it's double what we pay.

http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/international/prices.html#Motor

So exactly what is the problem that needs 'splaining?

Buz [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

G overnment
R un (i.e regulated)
E nterprise
E xtracting
D ollars (ours)

Does that explain it ?

jdR, do you believe gas is at the right price these days? i know about free enterprise and all that but the fluctuation in gas prices only seems to model big oil's need to make more $ and do seemingly nothing about increasing refining operations. when katrina shut down 20% of the countries oil refining capacity, that was a clear shot across our bow that this country is in desperate need of new refineries and new solutions to non renewable energy.

James D. Rockefeller [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

G overnment
R un (i.e regulated)
E nterprise
E xtracting
D ollars (ours)

Does that explain it ? Actually, NO!

So if the G-Men control things, then it is Extracting [our] Dollars ... but then your psot talks about "the fluctuation in gas prices only seems to model big oil's need to make more $ ..."

.. and I though Big Oil was a Private enterprise .. there is at least not price fixing and damm little regulation.

So is the question, do we need new refineries? I say maybe .. actually I'm very cool with new refineries but watch out for the BS like "environmentalists make them too expensive" .. that is just that: BS.

So is the question . do we need new renewable energy solutions? I'm very cool with that too .. but watch out for the BS .. like "Ethanol"

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So I repeat - Is the "Problem" that Gas prices are "too high"?

It's not G-Man Greed that puts the price where it is today, Buz. Consider this .. is gas were $1 / gallon, there is no incentive for the
new refineries or renewable energy you mention.

We already voted for the LIBERALS to fix this problem! Seems they failed. gas to high, do not buy it. Now back to my original question, what happened to the liberals, vote for us and we will bring gas prices down. And for all you tree huggers, have you priced corn flakes lately, that what happens we you use your corn for gas.

THE LIBERAL CONSERVATIVE [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

"We already voted for the LIBERALS to fix this problem!"

WE?? WE?? Doggie, from your comments on other letters, I doubt you've EVER voted for anyone left of Attilla the Hun or Jesse Helms. You insult our intelligence.

$4/gal gas. THANK YOU GEORGE BUSH! You're keeping us safe, and giving it to us up the rear at the same time. God bless you and your conservative friends!

Rufus_T.Firefly [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

JDR,

What we need is an honest conversation about this problem, not the liberals or conservatives are the root of all evil conversations.

We told our reps to do something about this issue & all we get is a bunch of talk about ANWAR which will enrich some oil companies & not markedly change the situation & ethanol which is a givaway to ADM & corn farmers (& a detriment to meat farmers & consumers) and doesn't change the energy situation noticeably.

We need serious people looking at this. Right now we don't have any.

James D. Rockefeller [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

I swear I do not know what "the problem" is.

Is it that gas prices are too high? COME OUT AND SAY IT .. 'cause I'm still not positive that is the beef.

IF it is .. let me ask, "too high compared to what?"

James D. Rockefeller [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

By the way, Biting Dog - who are you qouting with "However I do remember all those liberals telling us [when they] take over the price will come down"

I did a quick search .. Harry Reid said something, but he's a pussy. Who else you thinking of?

"Sen. Bob Menendez (D-N.J.) has proposed a 60-day "holiday" on the federal gasoline tax ... "

So he offers to lower taxes and you jump on him?

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and why do you remember "all those liberals telling us when we take over the price will come down" ... but do not pay much attention when your buddies at FOXX News explains how gas can be $3.25 when oil was $75 per barrel ... and the same price when oil is $100 per barrel?

Selective Listening, perhaps?

James D. Rockefeller [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

... ya might want to read what those LIEbural Bastards .. The CATO Institute ... says about it all:

http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=3295

Rufus_T.Firefly [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

JDR,

The problem isn't $3.15 oil. That's some of the cheaper fuel in the world.

The problem is that eventually we are going to run out of economical oil & until then it's going to become more expensive & economically disruptive.

We're going to have to transition to something else. We can either wait until it happens & try to figure it out or try to be proactive.

I think it's smarter to be proactive because the people that figure out what the next step is will have an economic advantage.

James D. Rockefeller [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

I totally agree, Rufus .. just getting a reality check.

THE LIBERAL CONSERVATIVE [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

Rufus and James,
Don't you know that all we have to do is drill in ANWR and all our problems will be solved? That's what the "Conservatives" tell us.

Funny how conserving wilderness land is not "conservative" to the "conservatives"!
Of course, neither is spending $18 million dollars every hour on the Iraq war. But it is the "conservatives" who continue to support it!

Love how neo can't stand to advocate for birth control as a "conservative" measure. He'd rather be overrun with babies, and build more prisons, hire more police, etc.etc.

So, what is a "conservative" of today?
From what I can tell, one has to be:

A Fringe Religious Zealot

Uneducated White Male who loves guns

Unable to distinguish when they are being duped (see above)

Be willing to support "borrow and spend" policies because your candidate supports the NRA, Prayer in school, corporate behomeths, and vows to overturn Roe Vs Wade.

Yep, those wacky ones who love to call themselves "conservatives" are quite the group. The shallow end of the gene pool represents itself through that group.

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Buz [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

jDr,
"Buz. Consider this .. is gas were $1 / gallon, there is no incentive for the new refineries or renewable energy you mention." imo you are wrong on both assertions. first there is way more oil than we have the capacity to refine - so it would be nice to have some
reserve on hand (which would hopefully take away big oils supply excuse) and i don't mean the 'spr'. secondly crude will some day run out - but in your response to my suggestion of finding a renewable energy resource you said "I'm very cool with that too" but when rtFirefLy said "We're going to have to transition to something else" your reply was "I totally agree, Rufus .. just getting a reality check." - you can't have it both ways jamEs.

James D. Rockefeller [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

Buz - thanks for the response.

"There is way more oil than we have the capacity to refine."

I'm not sure what that means. If you are saying there is infinate oil, you're flat wrong. If you are saying there is a bottle neck at the refinery, you might be right (should we burn it at a too-fast rate) abd you might be right (should we burn it a lot slower.

Your suggestion to find renewable energy is a good one - I AM very cool with that too ... and that's the same thing Firefly said ... transition to something else.

I see great consistency. Help me out; I do not get your point.

Buz [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

jdR,
it was my misunderstanding of "i'm cool with that" - i initially thought you meant that it wasn't such a great idea - however your connotation must have been that you were ok with that - my mistake - apologies !
yes i did mean there was a bottleneck and i did say "crude will some day run out" so you and i both agree that oil is not infinite.
thanks for clearing that up for me............

rahrah [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

Or maybe if George Dubya would do what he said he'd do way back in 2000.


"It’s important for the president to explain in clear terms what high energy prices will not only do to our economy, but what high energy prices will do to the world economy. It is in the Saudis’ best interests for the price of oil to mellow out. It’s not only in our country’s best interest; It needs to be explained to them it’s in their best interests. And I will do so."-George W. Bush 1/00

"What I think the president ought to do [when gas prices spike] is he ought to get on the phone with the OPEC cartel and say we expect you to open your spigots...And the president of the United States must jawbone OPEC members to lower the price."-- Bush 1/00

But then again, when has Georgie ever followed through on anything good?

Buz [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

"Or maybe if George Dubya would do what he said he'd do"..........................
haven't we figured out that all politician feed all us citizens the promises we want to hear .....only somewhere down the line to begin to explain why they can't deliver on those promises ?
just pick the person you think looks the best and cross your fingers !!?

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