No guarantees against wrongful executions
Charles Davenport Jr.’s column, “Two-legged wolves await death” (News & Record, April 27), is troubling. He says, “No innocent person has been executed since capital punishment was reinstated 32 years ago.” Really? Are we re-examining evidence in ALL cases to verify the person we just executed is really guilty?
In 2002, I was in Houston, Texas (No. 1 in executions every year!), when news broke that the Houston DNA lab had been mishandling evidence. According to a March 2003 New York Times article, the Houston police “turned over 525 case files involving DNA ... including those of seven people on death row.”
In March, the Houston Chronicle stated the DNA lab was shut down again “due to improper handling of evidence.” Seven were on death row with potentially faulty evidence. Is Houston the only place where that happens?
Davenport seems surprisingly confident in our ability to convict and execute the right people. Me? I wish I could be so sure.
Houston changed my mind about administering the death penalty. Not because the wolves don’t deserve it, but because I, for one, am not comfortable condemning even one innocent to die.
Daniel Shirley
Greensboro
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I've posted this before .. but it's worth a re-post. I find it the most powerful arguement I've ever heard against capital punishment ... even outweighing the apparent fact the cost of execution is higher than the cost of life long imprisonment:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=829635
Posted on May 2, 2008 4:55 AM
Now Daniel Shirley is clearly a whiney liberal with his statement .. "... I, for one, am not comfortable condemning even one innocent to die." ... but it does fascinate how the never-whiney non-liberals - who often feign Christian values - will quote the Bible as needed, including "Vengance is Mine sayeth the Lord", yet they maintain a hard position on taking vengence into their own hands.
Posted on May 2, 2008 4:59 AM
Is this the same lab that handled OJ's sample. Hey, he may be cleared after...oh, never mind.
The glove didn't fit...
They HAD to acquit...
Posted on May 2, 2008 7:06 AM
James,
Your point will be entirely lost by the "Pro lifers" you refer to.
I just get tickled at their arguments on how killing a glob of cells is murder but then they justify killing a full grown human being with some scripture and a dose of right wing "justice".
Ain't America grand!
Posted on May 2, 2008 8:06 AM
I am in full agreement with the letter writer and JDR.
Posted on May 2, 2008 8:23 AM
"...a glob of cells..."
Here's a classic:
“Dan is ready to tell you how a fetus has the potential to become a human being!”
Posted by THE LIBERAL CONSERVATIVE | June 15, 2007 7:04 PM
Ya mean a fetus doesn't have the potential to become a human being eh?
Posted on May 2, 2008 8:28 AM
The context was that saying the fetus has the "POTENTIAL" to become a human being is one thing--BUT AS A FETUS IT IS NOT A HUMAN BEING.
Are you really that stupid?
Did you EVER take philosophy or logic?
Do you believe creationism is science? Do you believe the world is not round? Do you believe that when you die, you will be walking on the tops of clouds, wearing wings with which to fly???
Sheesh!
Danny, you have learned much from being hooked up to FoxNews--You can take a sentence out of context as well as anyone I have EVER seen. Most of the time you don't even realize you do it, you just do it--because you don't know any better.
You have a good solid case against UNCG---malpractice. They obviously gave you a diploma when it was unwarranted.
Posted on May 2, 2008 8:36 AM
I’ve always been puzzled by those people who are advocates for the death penalty. I have a question for you. If you look at Texas, which leads the country in death penalty executions, and you base your support of the death penalty for its ability to be a deterrent, wouldn’t you expect to see a significant drop in murders being committed in Texas?
Figures from the Texas Dept. of Public Safety show a decline in murders from the years 1992 to 2006, but, the decline certainly doesn’t reflect the effect that death penalty advocates are hoping for. The Texas Crime Clock of 2006 shows: a murder occurring every 6 hours and 19 minutes, a rape every hour and a violent crime every four minutes.
Mr. Davenport should ask Darryl Hunt about the possibility of an innocent man being sentenced. I understand that Mr. Hunt was not on death row. Also, Illinois put a moratorium on death penalty cases because of coerced confessions.
http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/administration/crime_records/pages/crimestatistics.htm
Posted on May 2, 2008 9:58 AM
Spin it anyway you want Demon Deacon, they are your words. Heh, heh, heh.
Posted on May 2, 2008 11:06 AM
Pull your trousers up, THE LIBERAL CANADIAN.
Posted on May 2, 2008 11:19 AM
Heh, heh, heh, the context is wrong eh?
Kinda like wearing Canadian patches on your backpacks in France to avoid the ire of those ruffian Frenchmen, context. A skirt is more appropriate here than trousers Neo.
I always know when I hit target, the context is incorrect and a barrage of wimpy insults trails tightly behind. Mission accomplished.
Posted on May 2, 2008 4:22 PM
Bingo! I always KNOW when I've hit the nerve....little Danny and his puppeteer resort to their Canadian Flag routine! What a pair.
And as to the trousers comment, I didn't think Danny was through yet!
Posted on May 2, 2008 6:42 PM
Maybe you do have a case against UNCG, Dan. Is that where you were taught that a fetus has the potential to become a human being? Maybe you should have signed on to WF and found out where we really come from. I'd like to know myself.
Sheesh, yuck, yuck, yuck, lol, too dang funny, mission accomplished, heckuvajob Brownie.
That old Canadian flag just won't go away will it THE LIBERAL CANADIAN? What would you give to have that one back? :]
I can almost see that red face through my monitor, Canuck. The screen is glowing pink around your posts. :]
Posted on May 2, 2008 8:54 PM
BTW Canuck, that wasn't a "nerve" you hit...it was my funny bone.
yuck, yuck, yuck...
Posted on May 2, 2008 9:02 PM
And to think WFU has a school of medicine. Guess Demon Deacon didn't hang out in those environs. I think I learned a fetus has the potential to become a human being in 8th grade biology.
Just but one of the plethora of stupid statements to cross my computer screens over the years. They are priceless. Here is another one where Demon Deacon attempts to analogize an fetus child to an acorn:
"I would say, that a potential person is not an actual person. If A has the potential to become B, then it follows that A is not B. An acorn is not an oak tree. You cannot climb the limbs of an acorn, build a tree-house in an acorn, or rest in the shade of an acorn. And you certainly are not chopping down a mighty oak tree by removing an acorn from the ground."
Posted by THE LIBERAL CONSERVATIVE | June 15, 2007 7:04 PM
Never mind that a fetus is going to become a person, the seed has been planted if I may put it succinctly. An acorn is.....an acorn.
Damn, I'm glad I went to UNC-G, apparently these basic concepts are not taught in shop class at WFU.
Posted on May 2, 2008 9:12 PM
one post states:
I’ve always been puzzled by those people who are advocates for the death penalty. I have a question for you. If you look at Texas, which leads the country in death penalty executions, and you base your support of the death penalty for its ability to be a deterrent, wouldn’t you expect to see a significant drop in murders being committed in Texas?
To this I say : I do not base my support only on it being a deterrent. I also think it stops repeat offenders cold.
And as far as the crime rates in Texas, perhaps some credit should be given to the influx of criminals from New Orleans now living in Houston and Dallas. As well as "the undocumented workers" living in Texas.
Posted on May 2, 2008 10:22 PM
I base my support for the death penalty based on the fact that it kills killers. But, uh, yeah, might be good if we could have a guarantee of guilt. But, I mean, I don't know what I mean.
Posted on May 3, 2008 3:42 AM
Little Danny, does neocon really make you feel better about yourself? Is that the best you can muster up. Piteeeful.
Posted on May 3, 2008 3:38 PM
"Is that the best you can muster up"
No the quote was yours so apparently it was the best you could muster up. Keep going I need more jewels!!
Posted on May 3, 2008 4:37 PM