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Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's the savior of the world...and all that jazz.

Now watch us elect another Democratic governor but go deep red in the federal elections. I'd hold my pride til November, then we'll see whether or not the real North Carolina is ready to embrace any kind of change.

"Sen. Obama proclaims a vision of our nation that is not segmented or segregated by politics, race, gender, religion, class, education, job, economics or anything else."

A classless society. Any info on how the Deliverer intends to accomplish this feat, Mr. Caldwell?

I'm interested in what Obomba is going to do for the Hispanics, Asians, Indians and other ethnic people of our country . . .

black folk seem to think this candidate is thiers . . . I'm interested to see what a black president will do for all of us . . . undivided and all . . . all for one . . . one nation

and I don't mean the nation of islam . . .

Well, what an informed group of posts we have!

Piteeeeeful.

"I can't stand him. ... He's a Muslim. He's not even pro-American as far as I'm concerned." This is what an Indiana voter said about Obama. It is similar to what J. Peterman wrote in his comment. It’s sad when lies have to be spread in order to take exception to a candidate; but, it goes even further. Shelby Foote had a comment that went along the lines of “…a regional kind of ignorance.” And that’s what you see when you have a comment like the one that was made by the Indiana voter and J. Peterman. You have an ignorance that goes beyond simple reasoning. You have an ignorance that is driven by fear, hatred or out of immaturity. Things don’t go your way, so, you make up lies. Basically, you scare people in believing what you want them to believe. Republicans are very good at this. Funny thing though, it is not working on the voters the way that it once did. You can ask the GOP faithful about the recent losses of long held Republican seats in the South.

Conundrum, you've got a good point with "Basically, you scare people in believing what you want them to believe", but both sides play the hits. Abortion, poverty, and racism are popular tunes for both sides to sing around their respective campfires.

Witness Edwards' "Two Americas (TM)" lament, now endorsing and sort of smiling on Obama's website. Or Obama's own "Some CEOs make more in one day than their workers make in one year."
(Is Obama still drawing senatorial pay while he's out campaigning?)

More from Obama's website, and just from a quick look:

- Pay Inequity Continues...
- Hate Crimes on the Rise...
- Efforts Continue to Suppress the Vote...
- Disparities Continue to Plague Criminal Justice System: African Americans and Hispanics are more than twice as likely as whites to be searched, arrested, or subdued...
http://www.barackobama.com/issues/civilrights/

Both parties have their Golden Oldies.

Roger

R. Bennet, there's a difference between a lie and the truth. Pay Inequity Continues, Hate Crimes on the Rise, Efforts Continue to Suppress the Vote, Disparities Continue to Plague Criminal Justice System: African Americans and Hispanics are more than twice as likely as whites to be searched, arrested, or subdued. All of these things are truths, not lies. "Obama being a Muslim" is a lie.

Conundrum,
Thank you for pointing out truth.
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"black folk seem to think this candidate is thiers . . . I'm interested to see what a black president will do for all of us."

I think the African American community has a lot to be proud of in this historic first. Most who disparage this are already rigidly locked into their belief systems--sad but true. Funny how the right wing lunatics, love to use Sharpton, Jesse Jackson etc as 'code', now have an articulate leader from the black community and they feel they must use all ammunition to destroy him.

Peterman, you've obviously NEVER watched an Obama interview, rally, speech etc, as you have totally given the opposite of his message as your basis...as if it were fact. Like most ignorant folks, you rely on prejudice and fear. Says a lot about you.

Conundrum,

And, like most things, if people can sit down and talk openly about topics we could get rid of useless hot-button nonsense.

Pay inequities? Can we honestly discuss experience and years and hours worked, taking into account time taken off for having/raising children? Or should we pay people regardless of commitment? And aren't women accepting jobs knowing what they'll being paid, or are they being surprised when the first paycheck comes? Aren't they brighter than that? They're free to not accept the job, right? Or to leave TIMCO for HondaJet, right?

Hate crimes are on the rise? Like hanging chads, we judge what a person is thinking when the blow is thrown. It's just a matter of being the right color at the right time. Or wrong, depending on which side of the beat-down you're on. Sure hate crimes are on the rise. We just recently came up with the idea, so there's nowhere to go but up.

Voter suppression? Obama summons up firehoses and Billy clubs on his website, but show me an informed voter that has been kept from the polls since (arbitrarily) Clinton I. Complaints about long lines or having to send in a provisional don't count, but it does say something about how a party thinks of minorities. We have become a nation of fast-food attitudes, quick and now, but that's not always how things work. And there's not much luck when googling voter+suppression+lawsuit. Except one in Nevada about the Democratic caucus. Pretty amusing.

But just one person who was kept from casting a vote would be interesting to read about.

Here's a link
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4176/is_20070701/ai_n19342333

But it didn't list a victim.

Blacks and Hispanics are more than twice...? Blacks and Hispanics commit a disproportionate amount of crime in the U.S. in relation to their percentage of the population. Maybe we could discuss root family/cultural causes and solutions for the problems which cause the increased crime and subsequent suspicion and probability of searches, arrests, and subduals.

But I know we can't discuss these issues without emotion and crying foul for the incorrect people taking them out of their boxes, but lies are exactly the same as improper presentations. And what was listed are improper presentations that play to a demographic's emotions. It's like the battered wife scenario- "You can't make it without me..."

Roger

"This is what an Indiana voter said about Obama."

Fair enough conundrum, there are people like that out there. Nothing you nor I can do about it.

Likewise there are others who simply don't agree with his proposals. Is that ok with you? I've visited Obama's website many times. While there are some proposals I agree with, I don't agree with others.

Obama is playing to the fears of voters too. Just watched him on TV today during lunch at a speech in MT. I can't count on one hand how many times he referred to McCain as serving Bush's third term. What happened to the maverick McCain the media darling?