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Funny letter .. everything he diss's Bush for is used as a reason to vote Obama. Throw in some “Baseless rhetoric" about Clinton, and we have "foolish speculation .. as usual”.

... His so-called experience in office before he was elected "

And Obama's extensive experience is what?

"What was Bush’s military experience?"

And Obama's military experience is?

Wait... I get it........ this was today's chuckle, right?

This letter will get no traction. No mention of starving shillrun and homeless vets created by Bush and the republicans.

Under Clinton we had jobs, under Bush you have no job, under McCain you will have no job. So using your logic will a president Obama mean you will have a job S.D.? Any lower gas and food prices to boot?

"...if you want five more years of war, no jobs, high food prices and gas, go ahead and vote for John McCain."

I'll admit to looking forward to President Obama's pretty excuses when everything is essentially the same come 2012. He is a heck of a speaker.

And imagine the creativity if Congress is his, too.

Roger

One thing that amazes me, is that people actually think things will get better quickly. IMHO, both Obama and McCain are unelectable.

If I had my way, we'd be in a "do-over" for the Presidential Candidates. Whether you vote for Obama or McCain, the only thing you'll be choosing at the polls in November is which way you want this country to go further downhill.

When did we start electing Presidents to five year terms?

When did we start electing Presidents to five year terms?

Now I remember, during the Clinton years no one ever lost a job, and everyone had health insurance (provided by someone else of course), and Clinton was a renowned military hero (in the damaged liberal mind draft dodgers are heroes!), and no one ever had more respect for the Oval Office, and his (non) handling of terrorism has brought us to where we are today.

Since Obama reminds us more of Jimmy Carter than Bill Clinton, why not tell us about the wonderful Carter days, and how great it would be to revisit that joyful time!

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Mr./Ms. McClelland, Senator Obama is an empty suit, a front man, a shill for powerful liberal interests who are pulling his strings ... nothing more.

I'm not talking about some sort of sinister "Manchurian Candidate" scenario. I'm referring to old school Democratic Party hacks and wealthy George Soros types who tell him what to say and when to say it. Just look at the people surrounding him now to get an idea of who will be running the show in January.

And it's not entirely his fault. He hasn't enough wisdom or experience to know what to say, when to say it, what to do or when to do it. He hasn't a single original idea about what should be done to raise the country up. All can can manage is to spout rose-colored platitudes about "Change" and "Hope" and "Future."

We are on the verge of installing the weakest Head of State in recent history. And those who wish us ill are delighting in the prospect.

P.S. At least, it will last only FOUR years ... not five ... unless we do it again in 2012.

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We are on the verge of installing the weakest Head of State in recent history. And those who wish us ill are delighting in the prospect.

You gotta be kidding...we have already done that...twice.

We are on the verge of installing the weakest Head of State in recent history. And those who wish us ill are delighting in the prospect.

You gotta be kidding...we have already done that...twice.

“We are on the verge of installing the weakest Head of State in recent history.” This is a funny line, but, not in the comical sense. The anti-Obama posters are an odd lot. Academically and intellectually, they don’t measure up to Obama’s resume. But, that doesn’t stop them from their criticisms. I think that the major issue is one of not being comfortable with an African American as president. It goes against the grain. And it boils down to not wanting to give an African American the chance to be president. I look at the bang up job that the CEOs of the Big Three are doing, and I wonder how they are hanging onto their positions? It has to be a good ole boy thing. Who else could run companies in the ground and still keep their jobs? GM’s stock hasn’t been this low since 1954. And Chrysler is probably on the verge of bankruptcy. Obama is an intelligent man, but, he is foolish for putting his family through this mess. Gov. Bush’s talents should have never gotten him out of the state of Texas, but, he was twice given the chance to run this country. And what a great job he did!

"I think that the major issue is one of not being comfortable with an African American as president. It goes against the grain."

As I posted this morning in the LTE about a fiscally irresponsible Congress, and then Mike Easley's response to Mary Easley's $79,700 raise at NC State:

Gov. Easley's response is what Democrats do best play the "(fill in the blank) card". In this instance he played the gender card: "If she were a man, it wouldn't be an issue".

Easley used the gender card, conundrum the race card. It's too predictable.

I would be elated if McCain put Michael Steele on his ticket conundrum. Dang, just blew your theory.

This isn't a direct attack on you, Carol, but I'm always confused at things like this. FWIW, similar comments will come from the other direction if Obama doesn't figure out some way to lose in November.

Is Bush the worst, most inexperienced, and idiotic president we've had in recent memory, or is he a brilliant manipulative schemer who has somehow constantly figured out how to circumvent our laws and Constitution?

How can he be both simultaneously? A Mr. Bean-ish president?

And Conundrum, shall we only allow those with similar academic standing to comment on those who will govern? I'll point towards Bill Gates, a Harvard dropout who has done $2 billion more for education than Obama has (and who can measure what his OS has done to improve every level of education). He can't comment? I'll point you to the National Voting Rights Act of 1965 which disallowed just what you seem to embrace. But if so, good. I suggest a one minute explanation of the role of the three branches to a pollworker before a potential voter is allowed entry.

Or perhaps a yes/no question such as "Is the United States a democracy?"

The answer ties in to us asking questions about the person who will represent us.

And when Obama wins, will it be because white America is more decent than your stereotype presumes?

Roger

"I'll point towards Bill Gates, a Harvard dropout who has done $2 billion more for education than Obama has (and who can measure what his OS has done to improve every level of education). " Ted Turner basically shamed Bill Gates into philanthropy. There maybe something altruistic about his giving at the moment, but, until he was embarassed, he really wasn't giving away a lot of his riches.

There is a quote by Teddy Roosevelt, that goes something along the lines of those who actually enter the fray and may stumble or fail along the way and those who sit on the sidelines and criticize.

Of course we live in a democracy. But, I grew up in the South and I know that there are some white males who will never shake the "Vernon, can read!" syndrome. In its current translation, "Obama is too uppity."

"And when Obama wins, will it be because white America is more decent than your stereotype presumes?" Let's ask Harold Ford Jr.

Tony Baloney:

Since you opened the subject - please show us where “Clinton[‘s] (non) handling of terrorism has brought us to where we are today”. A couple Fox Facts before you respond (like you will respond, yea there’s a joke): The first WT bombing wasn’t bin Laden, nor was it Saddam. The USS Cole incident wasn’t bin Laden, nor was it Saddam.

Please show us also what specifically Jimmy Carter did that caused “the wonderful Carter days” .. be specific, but I’ll save you looking: you will find nothing he did (or didn’t do) to cause the “misery index”. The train was already headed full tilt into the wreck before he took office.

Conundrum,

(your response to my question) "Let's ask Harold Ford Jr."

Seems unusual, but okay.
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I'm unsure how it will be helpful, but I'm betting it won't be timely. I'm guessing their offices are closed for the 4th, so it will be Monday at the earliest before he might see it and consider writing back. It's possible that he'll respond, but by then a week or more will probably have passed, and the odds are 50% (likely better) that anything that comes from the DLC will be some sort of boilerplate "Thank you for..." email, and by then this topic will likely be in the archives section of the website. The discussion will certainly have blossomed, and possibly to the point where his response won't matter. But as you wish, and I'll keep everyone posted.

Interesting you would pick Ford, Jr., though. He got 48% of the vote, and Tennessee is over 80% white. Which means a bunch of white folks voted for him.

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Good point about altruism. I'd initially brought up Bill Gates to show that intelligence doesn't have to be measured by diplomas. Intelligent people are everywhere, at Honda, TIMCO, and some are even stuck in Iraq. But I like your diversion, and we should go with it. I'm guessing your objective was not to draw attention to the similarity of Gates guilted giving and Obama's same, but since you introduced the shamed-into-charity angle:

The Obama's pre-presidential campaign charitable donations totalled $1,050 (read as one thousand fifty dollars) in '02 and $2500 (twenty five hundred dollars) in '04 when the couple was earning over a quarter million dollars per year.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/26/us/politics/26taxes.html?_r=2&oref=slogin&oref=slogin

Less than 1% of income pre vs. 5% post presidential campaign run and the connected disclosure of tax returns. His giving looks to be tied to something other than true altruism as well, eh?

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I'm unsure of your point regarding sitting on the sidelines. I'm guessing the quote was incomplete, or perhaps taken from Roosevelt's later years.

Do you mean constant complaining about how others prevent you from doing things is less useful and much less noble than going out and accomplishing something yourself? I fully agree.

And are you quoting the same Teddy Roosevelt who railed against hyphenated Americanism?

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You wrote, "Of course we live in a democracy."

I wasn't asking, but you volunteered it. That answer would mean you weren't allowed a vote, and it would have absolutely nothing to do with skin color or proper comma usage.

If you know any naturalized citizens they can explain it to you.

**Obama '08**

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Anyway, I've asked Harold Ford, Jr., as you requested. Perhaps you can write Al Roker and ask if he'd like to participate.

But more importantly is that I asked you and you didn't answer, and this is our conversation.

Shall I ask again?

Roger

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Say what you will about President Bush and his many faults, Ms. Dunn, but "weakness" is not an attribute that is readily applied to him. Indeed, it is you, madam, who has gotta be kidding me!
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As to Senator Obama's race, Conundrum, you are revealing your OWN prejudice against and discomfort with African Americans when you use his race as the reason to dismiss any and all criticisms of him.

It matters not whether he's yellow, red, black or white ... he's STILL a vacuous marionette who can barely string together three consecutive coherent sentences without a teleprompter.

Cogent thought and practical solutions are not within Senator Obama's grasp, REGARDLESS of his race, color, creed, religion, national origin, sex, marital status, sexual orientation, handicap/disability, political persuasion or age.

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