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The foxhole question should guide voting

America is at war, and on two fronts — Iraq and Afghanistan — with major problem areas in a number of other countries where unrest is rampant.

I address this letter to all former and current servicemen and women, as well as the parents of servicemen and women. To you I have but one question as it relates to this year’s presidential election, and please think about it very carefully as it is of vital importance:

Whom would you rather be in a foxhole with, Barack Obama or John McCain?

As a former serviceman (Vietnam era) and a parent of a discharged Marine (Desert Shield era), the choice is a no-brainer.

Please, for the sake and safety of our young men and women, follow the paper trail.

Robert Bell
Greensboro

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Yvonne [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

You are right, Robert. The answer is clear. One candidate plans to keep our sons/daughters, grandsons and granddaughters in harms' way while the other candidate plans to bring them home to the US where they belong. If they are home, they wouldn't be in a foxhole to begin with so you are right on another account also. It is a no-brainer.

nemo0037 [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

I guess this means that the letter writer would not have wanted Abe Lincoln to be the President during the Civil War, and he would have wanted to toss FDR out during World War II.

The thing is that wars are not won or lost because of the thought processes that go on at the foxhole level. It takes strategic and political decision making that are not needed in foxholes. The President -- whoever he ends up being -- will guide the actions of the military via the services of the chiefs of staff, which has always been in place for trained and experienced military minds to give the benefit of decades of experience to the less trained Presidents.

So the question should be: who is the person you would think most likely to make the best political decisions in this time of national crisis/ennui? Follow THAT paper trail and decide.

Rufus_T.Firefly [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

I'm with you on that Robert! There is only one candidate I would want to share a foxhole with.

All I can say is........

Pass the ammo Barak (but do it quietly. It's McCains naptime!)

TJ [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

"...will guide the actions of the military via the services of the chiefs of staff, which has always been in place for trained and experienced military minds to give the benefit of decades of experience to the less trained Presidents."

And that being said, nemo, Obama would be more likely to LISTEN to his chiefs of staff and not act as if he knows more than they do just because he's been in the service.

Carol Dunn [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

Well said, bloggers...I have nothing to add but my Amen.

I think the question was for former service people. How many of you blogger's, pass the test? Yvonne, remember WWll, should we have stayed at home? TJ, you are not paying attention to what Obama saying. He was against the surge, still says it did not work, the generals say it did! Did you hear is great energy speech yesterday, the best way to lower gas prices, is to tune your car. The was so ludacris, that even the liberal press, ignore it.
When the last time you had a car tuned up? Saw a poll this morning 71% of us want drill for our own oil. Witch Nancy, shut down congress, would not allow a vote on it. Seems the liberals, ignore the Americans. I guess what she is saying, they we are to stupid to think for ourselves. Of course you never see a editorial on this. Have a great week, going on a golf and fishing trip. Do yourself a favor, watch Fox to see both sides of the news and then make your choice. The liberal media, will only tell you what they want you to hear. Remember the Duke Case. Bye

Rufus_T.Firefly [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

With all due respect Dog, Iraq is not WWII much as GWB tried to make Saddam out as Hitler.

At best the surge does a stupid thing better (i.e. wear a helmet. It makes banging ones head against a brick wall much more comfortable).

Conundrum [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

Mr. Bell poses an interesting question. Why does it seem that there are some who are so quick to send young men and women in harm's way? I am not a former servicemember, but, I have cousins who fought in Vietnam and they received medals for their service. My cousins never speak of the war and I've been told that many WWII vets also do not speak of the carnage that they witnessed. I want a president who can to talk to those who oppose us, not a president whose immediate thought is to send troops in or to bomb away at our enemy. I believe that this blood lust is associated with our history and the conquests that we achieved through warfare - and not diplomacy of some sort. This war thing is not an XBOX game. The bullets and the blood are real. At the end of this nonsense, there are a lot of sons, daughters, husbands and wives who will not make it home.

http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2008/07/25/world/middleeast/20080726_CENSOR2_4.html

jcackbar [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

Well said, Mr. Bell.

chucka [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

If the opinion of servicemen and women are of any value, they have already spoken with their pocketbooks of whom they prefer to be in the foxhole with...and the answer...is Dr Ron Paul. He receives more military contributions that all Republican candidates combined. Second is Obama. Third is McCain. I guess those people, who put their money where their life is, are a significant indicator if you are going to use the foxhole metaphor. Or they could be total idiots...what do you think?

chucka [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

Shamefully, I neglected to mention the category where Dr Paul is next to last in contributions....lobbyists...the lobbyists must be the smart guys and the military personel must be the stupid ones...they cannot both be right. Now go dig your foxholes with lobbyist provided shovels.

MemberName [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

In a fox hole, I would certainly rather be with a young, fit, quick-thinking companion.

Carol Dunn [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

In a nutshell, if you are happy with the war in Iraq, the economy in the USA, the national debt, and all the things which have occurred in the Bush years, vote for McCain. If not, vote for Obama. I am not happy, so I am going with the new face. I certainly don't expect a great society to emerge with his election. I just know that I want a change.

R. Bennet [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

Obama, of course. Arm movements indicating "We surrender" need to be clearly recognizable, and I don't think McCain is physically able to do them.

Dan [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

"I just know that I want a change."

You forgot "hope", it's hope and change, not to mention inflating your tires properly.

molly the dog [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

My father was a foxhole guy. He was bright, educated, well read and vestryman. Before he died two years ago from cancer, he told us on his death bed that he wanted to change is political affiliation after a life time of being a hard core Republican. The reason was GWB and all his great decisions! He said he could no longer watch him on TV and likewise it made him sick to watch or listen to the stuff he spewed. I just wonder why people still hang on to these percepts about GWB and Republicans being the safeguards to liberty..... My father's decision was serious, but he did give us a smile before the tears. We learned alot.

Conundrum [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

"I just wonder why people still hang on to these percepts about GWB and Republicans being the safeguards to liberty..."

It's because Democrats have allowed Republicans to paint them as less patriotic and effeminate when it comes to defense (i.e. Dukakis and the tank episode). Even when you've had Democrats who have records of military service (Gore, Kerry and Cleland), they were still portrayed as being soft. Sen. Max Cleland, a multiple amputee, was portrayed as being disloyal to the US. Plus, most Republicans politicians have always been very good to defense contractors. Defense contractors frown when Democrats are in office. Even mini van driving soccer moms believe that Republicans will somehow better protect their children than Democrats will. This explains George W. Bush and his second term in office.

R. Bennet [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

"You know, education, if you make the most of it, if you study hard and you do your homework, and you make an effort to be smart, uh, you, you can do well. If you don’t, you get stuck in Iraq."

http://www.snopes.com/photos/politics/kerrysign.asp

"Our troops overreacted because of the pressure on them, and they killed innocent civilians in cold blood."

http://www.justinsharratt.com/
(and still no apology from Murtha)

Continual comments like that might explain why (D)s "allow" people to "paint them as less patriotic... when it comes to defense."

If the change fits...

Dan [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

"Even mini van driving soccer moms believe that Republicans will somehow better protect their children than Democrats will."

Gee I wonder why?

"Iran, Cuba, Venezuela, these countries are tiny compared to the Soviet Union. They don't pose a serious threat to us the way the Soviet Union posed a threat to us.”

Barack Obama

“Iran is a grave threat. It has an illicit nuclear program. It supports terrorism across the region and militias in Iraq. It threatens Israel’s existence. It denies the Holocaust."

Barack Obama

Which is it?

molly the dog [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

So here I am in a foxhole for the last several years with GWB. It smells horrible, in spite of GWB saying he takes bathes and brushes his teeth. GWB says, "well it it time for me to go, someone else will show you the way". Why in the hell would anyone say, "please stay here because I know what is best for you and the nation". Please give a reason to understand the author's logic.

molly the dog [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

So here I am in a foxhole for the last several years with GWB. It smells horrible, in spite of GWB saying he takes bathes and brushes his teeth. GWB says, "well it it time for me to go, someone else will show you the way". Why in the hell would anyone say, "please stay here because I know what is best for you and the nation". Please give a reason to understand the author's logic.

verelse [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

I thought the surge was a waste of time. The surge worked. I was wrong.
Your turn, Barack. Fess up.

I thought the war was a big lie. McCain was/is all for the war. McCain was wrong. Fess up.

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