Why call Obama black rather than biracial?
I wonder why we (including the media) continue to call Barack Obama “black”? Isn’t the correct term “biracial”? His mother is white, his father was black. That does not make him black. If we accepted this fact, would it make a difference to those who are concerned about voting for a “black”?
My grandparents immigrated from Italy to the United States in the late-1880s. They were from northern Italy and had red hair, light skin and freckles instead of the usual dark olive skin one associates with Italians. I inherited this coloring, as did my three children. Does this make us “Italian”?
Suzannah Kleese
Greensboro
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I've always wondered the same thing Suzannah. After all his father deserted the family when Barack was two years old and he was raised by white people.
A red headed Italian.....never mind I'm married.
Posted on August 1, 2008 6:17 AM
"Does this make us “Italian”?
...no this makes you a 'racist'.
Posted on August 1, 2008 6:21 AM
“I've always wondered the same thing Suzannah. After all his father deserted the family when Barack was two years old and he was raised by white people.”
Dan, help me understand your logic. So, does Obama’s father’s desertion and his rearing by his grandparents mean that Obama should consider himself white because his grandparents showered him with love and care? I know a white couple who has adopted three, African American boys. These boys are not biracial. Should the boys grow up believing that they are white when their physical appearance obviously shows that they are African Americans? At the end of the day, the boys feel loved; and that is the most important thing.
Obama refers to himself as an African American. I think that most casual observers would view him as such. Tiger Woods invented a new category for himself; it was something along the lines of Cablanasian. I am sure that confused a geneticist.
Posted on August 1, 2008 9:33 AM
Who really cares . . .
but a "swirl" works too . . .
. . . and to all those offended by every single thing or word at every single minute at any given time . . . usually the black folk . . .
get over your high and mighty selves . . . and start contributing to the human race and not just the black race . . .
Posted on August 1, 2008 10:01 AM
Think this over Fu Man Chews . . .
If Obama's loser dad had stayed around to infect him . . . do you think Obama would be where he is today . . .
. . . say what you want, but white people can't be all that wrong with thier ability to touch and build up other peoples lives . . .
. . . feel that, that's your pride . . . stings don't it . . .
Posted on August 1, 2008 10:05 AM
Does Obama Insult His Momma?
http://www.busybeingbornblog.com/?p=120
Posted on August 1, 2008 10:35 AM
Calling Barak black is a bit of shorthand and laziness from the reporters. They like stories in (forgive me) black & white simplicity and probably so do we. It make for a more interesting less nuanced story.
It will be much better when we go to that post-racial society.
Posted on August 1, 2008 12:58 PM
"It will be much better when we go to that post-racial society." Rufus, this ain't going to happen. Cast your eyes to the prophetic statements that are 2 to 3 posts above this one.
Posted on August 1, 2008 1:21 PM
He'll soon be white.
The Messiah was heckled today by a crowd of blacks angry that he wasn't promising them a bigger chunk of the cheese.
Posted on August 1, 2008 1:51 PM
"He'll soon be white."
Could be. It happened to Michael Jackson.
Posted on August 1, 2008 3:07 PM
It's going to be hard to be post-racial when the candidate keeps bringing it up.
Obama in Germany, July 24 2008:
http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/obamaroadblog/gGxyd4
"I know that I don’t look like the Americans who’ve previously spoken in this great city."
Obama in Springfield, MO, 7/30/08:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6o5IQvMl4A0
"You know, he doesn't look like all those other Presidents on those dollar bills,"
Obama in Rolla, MO, 7/30/08:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHHFCxObhxk&feature=user
"You know, he's new, he doesn't look like the other presidents on the currency."
Obama in Union, MO, 7/30/08:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4910277922945989044&hl=en
"Well, you know, he's got a funny name, and he doesn't look like all the presidents on the dollar bills and the five dollar bills"
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Saying it four times in speeches to four different crowds, with three of those speeches being on the same day, means it's scripted. It's a calculated plan.
And his campaign admits it:
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Politics/story?id=5495348&page=1
"When pressed to explain the comment, Axelrod told "GMA" it meant, "He's not from central casting when it comes to candidates for president of the United States. He's new to Washington. Yes, he's African-American."
And, like we often see in this forum, no one cares but him. He's got to be the one to introduce it to the conversation because he's the only one that sees it as significant.
Pretty handy to go ahead and set up an excuse for failure, though. Shame how he obviously views his demographic.
Obama '08
Posted on August 1, 2008 4:27 PM
"So, does Obama’s father’s desertion and his rearing by his grandparents mean that Obama should consider himself white because his grandparents showered him with love and care?"
No conundrum, just as the author stated, biracial.
Posted on August 1, 2008 5:50 PM
i've missed you disspikable race baiters.... obamadalilama and his babies' mama are gonna be more fun than flyin a june bug on a string..the funny thing is..people are taking this stuff seriously and putting his name on the back of their volvos and in their yard...with no shame..but there are still some bush/cheney signs left out there, too...followers like their leaders and sorry followers like their sorry leaders..."Will the following followers please follow along", said the followers' leader.
Posted on August 1, 2008 8:31 PM
Then again Obama is distantly related to Dick Cheney.
That in itself is a good enough reason to play down his white side!
Posted on August 1, 2008 8:58 PM
"Then again Obama is distantly related to Dick Cheney."
And Thomas Jefferson fathered a child or children with Sally Hemmings in the late 1700's.........biracial presidential children, why not a biracial president? Maybe they are related to Cheney too? :)
Posted on August 1, 2008 9:11 PM
"why not a biracial president? "
Glad to see that you are coming around Dan!
Posted on August 1, 2008 9:29 PM
"And Thomas Jefferson fathered a child or children with Sally Hemmings in the late 1700's."
That hasn't been proven conclusively and probably never will be. DNA evidence has shown a link but the Jefferson family, but the father could have been any one of 8 men, including Tom's brother Randolph and his 5 sons, who were in their teens and twenties when Sally Hemmings was having children.\
At least that's what the last thing I read about the subject says.
Posted on August 1, 2008 11:52 PM
The "black" gets him noticed.
Posted on August 2, 2008 12:41 AM
"Then again Obama is distantly related to Dick Cheney."
And Wild Bill Hickock:
"...family legend is that Wild Bill Hickok, he's a distant cousin of mine"
- Obama 7/08
Another reason I dislike him more and more as he tries to shape himself. His inherent assumption that everyone is dumb bothers the heck out of me. Think of how he views us when he says things like this. Ask why.
Yes, he's a distant cousin of Wild Bill. And I can say definitively that he's also a distant cousin of Gandhi, Pope John Paul II, and both Martin Luther King, Jr. and Martin Luther (there's a good poll question to determine eligibility to vote...). And King Tut, Mao Zedong, Hitler, and Mother Teresa.
And Jesse Helms.
He's a distant cousin every person reading this. The last number I read put the most distant relationship between any person in the world around the 50th cousin mark. There's a phrase associated with the idea, but I can't remember what it is. Anyway, all it takes is one person to do the trick. Genealogical relatedness between entire continents occurs as soon as one person from X has offspring with one person from Y (example- an Irishman impregnates a Cherokee woman in the U.S. around 1850 and it immediately makes Yeats a distant cousin of Jimi Hendrix. And Obama.)
He thinks the electorate is a collective moron. And it looks like he's probably right.
This is change?
Posted on August 2, 2008 8:39 AM
"Glad to see that you are coming around Dan!"
I've been around Rufus. No problem with a black and/or female president, I'd just prefer one that I agreed with politically and Obama ain't it.
Posted on August 2, 2008 3:15 PM