Hot-tempered McCain shouldn’t be president
My parents were married at the Naval Academy in 1942. Repeatedly in my dad’s shipboard letters to my mother, he would write, “I dreamed of John,” “I dreamed of John,” here referring to his brother, Dr. John Bumgarner of Greensboro, who was then a POW in the Philippines and Japan.
Postwar, my dad died four years after he began his own medical practice, and I spent nine years in the V.F.W. Children’s Home with my brothers and sister, where I saw battered veterans of every kind, so I am well aware of John McCain’s suffering as a POW.
Still, most all of our wartime presidents were temperate individuals — Jefferson, Adams, Lincoln, Wilson and Franklin Roosevelt — all agreeing with John F. Kennedy that “civility is not a sign of weakness.” Gens. Eisenhower and Marshall had this temperament as well, as does Gen. Petraeus.
John McCain, however, because of his temper, is not fit to be president. In every other way my prayers go out to him.
Richard Bumgarner
Greensboro
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John McCain's temper is legendary. At one point, when he felt his wife had too much makeup applied called her the "C" word in front of others. He's too volatile and too old, and too risky for America.
http://www.slate.com/id/2190109/?from=rss
Posted on October 3, 2008 8:37 AM
This letter proves that the News-Record will print any letter that is hostile to John McCain or Sarah Palin. It is not fit to be print. 90% of the letter has nothing to do with John McCain's supposed temper. There is no connection between the first three paragraphs and the first sentence of the last paragraph. That sentence is strictly an outlier, and Allen Johnson used it to headline the letter.
Posted on October 3, 2008 8:40 AM
This letter proves that the News-Record will print any letter that is hostile to John McCain or Sarah Palin. It is not fit to be print. 90% of the letter has nothing to do with John McCain's supposed temper. There is no connection between the first three paragraphs and the first sentence of the last paragraph. That sentence is strictly an outlier, and Allen Johnson used it to headline the letter.
Posted on October 3, 2008 8:59 AM
How about a letter about Barack Obama's history of radicalism and corruption? He's too radical and too corrupt, and too risky for America.
Obama has never explained his associations with Ayres, Dohrn, Wright, Praeger, Rezko, ACORN, Chicago Political Machine just for openers, and there are many more.
Posted on October 3, 2008 9:06 AM
I think McCain has handled himself pretty well in later years.
He can get fired up, no doubt. I can remember moments when Reagan, Clinton and Bush 1 lost their cool. They were still fairly effective Presidents.
I put Obama and Palin in about the same boat. Both are pretty and likeable. However, neither has the depth or experience to be President. Give them both another 10 years or so and I think they could be outstanding.
Posted on October 3, 2008 10:14 AM
McCain's hot temper is what he is known for - that is why he's labled himself a "Maverick". Guess what that's code for - he can't get along with anyone.
He's stubborn, impulsive, angry, has exhibited poor judgement time and again. Do we really want a man who can't control his emotions dealing with the world? I sure don't.
Posted on October 3, 2008 11:14 AM
Did Palin's constant beautiful smile and the winks bother anyone but me? And how many times did she refer to McCain as a Maverick??? His years of support of Bush doesn't sound very Maverick to me. When he stood up against torture, I agreed with him. They are two scary people to me.
Posted on October 3, 2008 12:24 PM
"Did Palin's constant beautiful smile and the winks bother anyone but me?"
I about lost my cookies last night when she winked. The folksyisms had already gotten my stomach roiled.
GWB has tried to aw-shucks his way though the last 8 years but so far at least he hasn't winked at us.
Posted on October 3, 2008 2:42 PM
Carol, what got me was Palin's hair hanging over her eyelids, every time she blinked her hair moved. As for Biden, the cheesy smiles while Palin retorted his argument.
"The folksyisms had already gotten my stomach roiled."
Kinda gets to ya Rufus when a politician speaks like everyday people rather than statuesque elitist spewing out numbers?
Say it ain't so Rufus, there you go again!!
Posted on October 3, 2008 5:09 PM
Dan,
When someone makes a conscious effort to speak like that it does kinda "gag" get to you.
But what do I know? I'm just a "joe sixpack".
Posted on October 3, 2008 5:19 PM
Got to share this one...just got a card from the NRA which states:
Obama's Tax Increase = 500%
Box of Rifle Ammmo = $500.00
New Hunting Rifle = $5,000.00
Well, that does it for me...I have to vote for McCain now.
And come on Dan, do your really think smiley, winkey is a serious candidate...I don't think so. You are way too smart for that.
Posted on October 3, 2008 6:34 PM
Carol,
She could be all seven dwarfs. Smiley, Winkey, Flirty, Posey, Giggley, Kissey, & Hockey.
If this doesn't work out for her Hugh Hefner will be calling soon.
Posted on October 3, 2008 7:04 PM
Don't neglect the citation, Carol:
"The December 13, 1999, article in the Chicago Defender said that Obama, then an Illinois state senator, supported a "500 percent" increase in the federal tax on the sale of "weapons he says are most commonly used in firearm deaths."
It is unclear from the article exactly what weapons would have been covered by the proposed tax. "
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/23/AR2008092303436_pf.html
The internets have long memories. Would he still publicly say that? Unknown. But it's consistent with all his other pre-Presidential campaign positions on firearms.
De facto gun restrictions on the vast majority of law abiding citizens by making "bad" guns and the corresponding ammunition too expensive for anyone other than celebrities and politicians (sorry for the redundancy) to realistically afford still works the same as legislation calling for an outright ban on firearms. Because very, very few firearms use a proprietary caliber.
This would, of course, only affect law abiding citizens.
Interestingly:
"We asked the Obama campaign about his position on an ammunition tax but have received no response."
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/nra_targets_obama.html
Posted on October 3, 2008 7:06 PM
"Well, that does it for me...I have to vote for McCain now."
Just back from Florida and received the same card in the mail Carol.
I'm not sure if you looked at the back of the card, it lists Obama supporting taxes on guns and ammo and bans on ammo and guns used for hunting.
It also links a site:
http://www.gunbanobama.com/
I'm not a hunter and don't do anything with guns, so I don't know what is fact, however I thought I would present the other side of the card.
To clarify your above quote, the NRA put out this card, not McCain.
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Hey Rufus, how ya doin? Go getcha a six pack and have a gud weekend.
Posted on October 3, 2008 9:01 PM
I'm not sure George Bush understands the difference between a wink and a blink, and, like Palin, he's anti-blinking.
Posted on October 3, 2008 9:42 PM
Rahrah,
That's a good point. Does Putin know the difference between a wink & a blink?
Could be important in a Palin/McCain (her words) administration.
Posted on October 4, 2008 4:14 AM
http://blog.news-record.com/opinion/letters/archives/2008/10/palin_needs_press_time.shtml
Carol, I'll post my response here in the original thread in the hopes that it won't slip immediately off the front page where it can be safely disregarded. Voting is about knowing.
You seem to have unintentionally supported my, and many others', view on Obama's true position on the subject when you said:
"Remember campaign talk is just that, on both sides."
As was my point, and I'm glad we agree. Obama has just recently seen the self-serving need to find value in the 2nd Amendment. And, as you accurately portrayed, just during this campaign.
From a mere five years ago, here's his Illinois bill (literally his) dealing specifically with "acceptable" firearms:
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/legisnet92/summary/920SB1338.html
I legally own a great number of the arms his bill mentions. That bill would make possession a crime. Wouldn't establishing possession of currently legal firearms as a crime qualify as an answer top your "how do you think Obama will "take your guns away" question?
His past represents his actual stance. Recall that he sat on the Board of Directors of the Joyce Foundation for years, ardently pro-control in both money and spirit.
'98- http://www.joycefdn.org/pdf/98_AnnualReport.pdf
'01- http://www.joycefdn.org/pdf/01_AnnualReport.pdf
I'd say your assessment was very accurate.
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"Do you think he could, IF he wanted to, get such a tax passed?"
I enjoyed this line of thought because he personally addressed a similar question during the primaries:
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2008/jan/15/debate-transcript/
Q- When you were in the state senate, you talked about licensing and registering gun owners. Would you do that as president?
A: I don't think that we can get that done.
Reread it. Not "no," but I-probably-wouldn't-be-able-to. Not "that's not my intent", but can't. I find the "we" part very interesting. We who? Democrats in general? It was the (D) debates, after all...
Or his statement last month in PA:
"Even if I want to take them away, I don’t have the votes in Congress"
Arguing your impotence on a Constitutional concern by saying your power would be checked by another branch is not an effective means of convincing me that you've suddenly changed 15 years of documented history, statements, and votes. It's not a football, and I'm not Charlie Brown.
But back to your direct question- It's a moot point. He proposed it in Illinois at an anti-gun rally, so it's too microscopic and is important only in what it indicates. The actual point being that it shows the position of a man who would support such a tax. And one who would say "I don't think we can get that done." And one who would choose Justices.
And remember (regarding Justice Thomas):
"setting aside the fact that I profoundly disagree with his interpretations of a lot of the Constitution" means Obama's selected justices would agree with him. And interpret similarly.
Again, you're very right when you said, "campaign talk is just that."
Posted on October 4, 2008 7:16 AM
R. Bennett,
You make an excellent point about politician's rhetoric. You have to listen very carefully to the words that they use. If you assume that you understand what the words mean, you can be badly fooled. You need to understand that there are more meanings to "is" than just one.
Posted on October 4, 2008 9:08 AM
And Mission Accomplished and Well Done Brownie...and WMD, and war for Iraqi Freedom, and no new taxes..read my lips... Again, look at both parties when you make accusations and remarks.
The "uniter" and his administration have managed to divide our country to a level above the Civil War. "They" have us now...we aren't even smart enough to unite and fight "them".
Posted on October 4, 2008 1:27 PM
Ah, now I see much more clearly. Sorry for all the links.
Posted on October 4, 2008 3:11 PM
FWIW.
"Remember campaign talk is just that, on both sides."
Obama also keeps saying during this campaign that only the wealthy will see their taxes go up.
I'm fairly sure we'll all be much more patriotic soon.
Posted on October 4, 2008 5:48 PM
Was listening to FOX news last week....love to hear their "fair and balanced" reporting occasionally...one of their folks said that neither candidate could cut taxes once in office, we are in debt in case you didn't hear that...and I agree. Scare people with who is going to raise taxes on who, lie like dogs, say what you have to say to be elected....yadda yadda yadda, and the beat goes on.
And by the way, what the heck is patriotic these days??? Unconditional support of the Bush years? Saluting a flag, having your hand over your heart, wearing a flag pin??? I get these stupid emails all the time. Smoke screens to cover the real issues...again and again.
Do you think McCain is concerned about the average American citizen?
Posted on October 4, 2008 6:42 PM
Sorry, I was being subtle again. I'll try to stop.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080918/ap_on_el_pr/biden_taxes_3
Posted on October 5, 2008 2:47 PM