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I feel ashamed for nation

I just came from early voting, and during the process and while returning to my vehicle on such a beautiful fall day, I reflected on how ashamed I felt ... ashamed that a bonafide American hero (McCain) had to resort to such truth distortions about his opponent’s positions ... ashamed that one of the most deep thinkers of a generation and a Harvard standout lawyer (Obama) had to resort to negative campaign TV ads to solicit votes ... ashamed that our vaunted financial empire has crumbled because of unbridled greed ... ashamed that one of the most advanced health care systems in the world is available only to those with the money to purchase insanely priced insurance ... ashamed that our educational system is way below that of many other world educational systems ... ashamed the news media stoop to presenting “news” of Madonna’s upcoming divorce instead of something surely more newsworthy.

No wonder the leaders of al-Qaida call us “The Great Satan.” Well, if the shoe fits, wear it (it seems to fit us nicely).

Tom Meacham
Liberty

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rahrah [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

Well....um....the 'Great Satan,' really?

Really, really?

Dan [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

Did you send this letter to Al Jazeera and MSNBC Tom? Both would put you on the air and equally describe you as a hero.

neocon [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

Hey Tom, next time try sewing a Canadian flag patch to your shirt before you go vote.

James D. Rockefeller [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

Now hang on here .. how about simple up or down votes on the single line issues:

1) ... a bonafide American hero (McCain) resorts to such truth distortions about his opponent’s positions.

2) ... a Harvard standout lawyer (Obama) had to resort to negative campaign TV ads to solicit votes.

3) ... a financial empire has crumbled because of unbridled greed.

4) ... the most advanced health care systems in the world is available only to those with the money to purchase insanely priced insurance

5) ... an educational system way below that of many other world educational systems

6) ... news media presenting “news” of Madonna’s upcoming divorce

James D. Rockefeller [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

1) ... a bonafide American hero (McCain) resorts to such truth distortions about his opponent’s positions.

Sucks. An informed vote based on honest duscussion of achievable goals would be way better.

2) ... a Harvard standout lawyer (Obama) had to resort to negative campaign TV ads to solicit votes.

Sucks. An informed vote based on honest duscussion of achievable goals would be way better.

3) ... a financial empire has crumbled because of unbridled greed.

Sucks.

4) ... the most advanced health care system in the world is available only to those with the money to purchase insanely priced insurance.

Neutral. This topic needs better clarity; see #1 and #2 above.

5) ... an educational system way below that of many other world educational systems

Sucks. There are solutions; see #1 and #2 above.

6) ... news media presenting “news” of Madonna’s upcoming divorce

Sucks.

James D. Rockefeller [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

3) ... a financial empire has crumbled because of unbridled greed.

Sucks ... unless you're one a couple hundred money-changers that each made a personal billlion dollars off this meltdown (and there were some that did) - while the rest of us genuine producers lost decades worth of monthly savings.

J Peterman Reality Tour [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

Adrian Paul Archer and Lionell Jeremy Hightower are charged in the case.

HIGH POINT — Customers check the windows of Dragon City restaurant on Eastchester Drive almost daily, hoping to see lights on this time. But it’s been dark since a brutal robbery in July left owner Wang Xing in a coma.
Xing continues to recover at home. His family speaks little English and hasn’t given interviews since the attack, which happened while the 39-year-old restaurant owner was making a delivery.

Residents joined police in canvassing neighborhoods and knocking on doors to get information after the attack. Two young men were arrested just days later and charged with the beating.

It's just a thug nation . . .


When was the last time a gang of white people beat up a Korean store owner?

verelse [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

1) ... a bonafide American hero (McCain) resorts to such truth distortions about his opponent’s positions.

He did not "resort". He made a choice then forfeited said status. He is responsible for his own actions.

2) ... a Harvard standout lawyer (Obama) had to resort to negative campaign TV ads to solicit votes.

Can someone link to one of these "negative" ads? I've not seen one. Not saying they do not exist..all I have happen to see are positive. (I do not watch much TV)

3) ... a financial empire has crumbled because of unbridled greed.

Greed is always unbridled. It collapsed due to Republican mismanagement, incompetence, lack of ethics, contempt for America and Americans and outright complicity. A few corrupt Democrats assisted.

4) ... the most advanced health care systems in the world is available only to those with the money to purchase insanely priced insurance

A nation of so-called "Christians" places money above neighbor, nation and humanity. Strangely, it is the so-called "Christian" right that so strongly opposes health care for the meek, the poor and the huddled masses yearning for some medical aid.

5) ... an educational system way below that of many other world educational systems

See #4

6) ... news media presenting “news” of Madonna’s upcoming divorce

Stop watching said "media".
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JPRT,

Leave your racist crap at home.

ms. malone [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

I felt just the opposite after early voting.... I felt very good, and I also admit, relieved (that it was over for me and my husband and the wait wasn't that bad, about 45 minutes). I also felt proud to be an American and have to have a choice. Even if (as some think) it is a bad choice.

The only other thing I can add now re: "most advanced health care systems in the world is available only to those with the money to purchase insanely priced insurance" is:

Simply not true. I am a RN, with a critical care national certification and 22 years of experience working throughout the triad and triangle area in all arenas of critical care and emergency and trauma care. In each setting, on a daily basis, people are treated who cannot pay for services. The people WITH insurance tend to absorb these costs which makes the market price of health care so very high.

Thats not to say that health care doesn't need reform--- it does--- but it is simply not true that those who can't afford care don't get it.....

J Peterman Reality Tour [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

Here are the lyrics for "Dirt Off Your Shirt" by Jay Z that was sung at an Obama rallie for it's supporters:

(rock on Jay-Z)


You're now tuned into the futha'muckin greatest
Turn the music up in the headphones
Tim, you can go and brush your shoulder off nigga
I got you, yeah

[Chorus: Jay-Z]
If you feelin like a pimp nigga, go and brush your shoulders off
Ladies is pimps too, go and brush your shoulders off
Niggaz is crazy baby, don't forget that boy told you
Get, that, dirt off your shoulder

[Verse One]
I probably owe it to y'all, proud to be locked by the force
Tryin to hustle some things, that go with the Porsche
Feelin no remorse, feelin like my hand was forced
Middle finger to the law, nigga grip'n my balls
All the ladies they love me, from the bleachers they screamin
All the ballers is bouncin they like the way I be leanin
All the rappers be hatin, off the track that I'm makin
But all the hustlers they love it just to see one of us make it
Came from the bottom the bottom, to the top of the pots
Nigga London, Japan and I'm straight off the block
Like a running back, get it man, I'm straight off the block
I can run it back nigga cause I'm straight with the Roc

Man I can't wait til the language in the constitution gets changed to this . . .

This message was brought to you by Obama for President . . . beotches . . .

J Peterman Reality Tour [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

Black racism, on the other hand, is often in the open and rewarded—particularly on campus. Angela Davis, Louis Farrakhan, and Sister Souljah are among those who have expressed extreme bigotry and anti-white hatred and yet are given thousands of dollars by colleges and universities to lecture on their grounds. Separatist institutions like all-black residence halls, student unions, and graduations that would be deemed “racist” if undertaken by whites are deemed “progressive” when members of minority groups engage in such segregation.
David Horowitz begins Hating Whitey by telling the story of his visit to Memphis, Tennessee, the very city where Martin Luther King was slain. As he visited what was once the Lorraine Motel, site of King’s assassination, Horowitz came upon the National Civil Rights Museum. Within the museum he saw a massive picture of King, and, peculiarly, two similarly sized photos of Malcolm X and Elijah Muhammad. Why Malcolm X, an anti-white bigot, occupied a place of honor equal to that of King, was confusing to Horowitz. Given Malcolm X’s purported abandonment of his earlier views at the 11th hour of his life, this was perhaps explainable, he reasoned. How Elijah Muhammad, “a racist and religious cultist,” occupied a place of honor in any “civil rights” museum was another story entirely. “It is as though someone had placed a portrait of the leader of the Hale-Bopp Comet cult in the Jefferson Memorial,” Horowitz points out to readers

J Peterman Reality Tour [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

“Are African Americans oppressed?” Horowitz asks. “If so, what would explain the desire of so many black Haitians to come to American shores? Why were so many Haitians ready, a few years before their immigration was blocked, to risk life and limb to make the illegal passage across shark infested waters? Was it their desire to be oppressed? Were they longing to be dominated by a master race?”
Although the progressive cause of “hating whitey” bemoans the legacy of slavery and racial tensions as if these problems were unique to the United States, it ignores something that is truly special about America. Blacks are less persecuted and more prosperous in America than in any place in the world—including Africa.

Nothing worse than a fanatic [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

Thanks, J Peterman RT, for ruining my day, week, month, year, decade, with the information ("visit to Memphis, Tennessee, . . . the National Civil Rights Museum") that there is ANOTHER Civil Rights Museum that could at some FUTURE date compete with our homegrown variety. You know, the one on Elm Street which since its inception long, long ago has been "overseen" by Earl and Skip."

On second thought, the National Civil Rights Museum in Memphis will probably never have to compete with OUR civil rights museum. Earl and Skip are taking in too much money TRYING???? to get "their" museum up and running.

I've felt for many, many moons that there was more money to be made in "attempting" a Civil Right Museum. My prediction -- within two years of opening to the public (if it ever does), most citizens/taxpayers will understand that all the public funds which poured (and are probably still pouring) into it were for naught.

A grandiose scheme by grandiose schemers.

J Peterman Reality Tour [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

Dear Fanatic,

Just think of how this woman felt. 'I guess brothers needs to do sum Kristmas shopp'n to . . . wurd . . .'


WINSTON-SALEM — Police said they have arrested three 18-year-old men after a woman was robbed earlier this week in a Walmart parking lot.

Winston-Salem police said the three men have been charged with robbery with a dangerous weapon and are being held in the Forsyth County jail.

The three men arrested and charged were Jamel Robertson Smith of 228 Montpelier Drive; Vincent Jermaine White of 2796 Piedmont Circle; and Derrick Monte Hairston of 2729 Piedmont Circle.

Yvonne [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

"Thats not to say that health care doesn't need reform--- it does--- but it is simply not true that those who can't afford care don't get it....."

ms. malone,

I can agree with that statement up to a point. As another RN, who has worked in most areas of a hospital plus home health (ICU being my home base) for close to 30 years, I have seen the difference in the health care given an insured patient vs. an uninsured one. While patients cannot be denied care (the hospital could not still receive government funds if they did such), money does matter. It shouldn't but it does. My experience is the only time it does not is if the patient is latino. They receive "the works" while Americans, black and white, are treated differently.

As Obama said in one of the debates, every American should have access to the same health care plan senators enjoy. The system that exists now is just another example of the haves and the have nots.

I do not know if Obama's proposal will work. What I do know is taxing health care benefits or giving a measly $5,000/year stipend to buy health care coverage will not.

BTW, thank you for the good that you do. Staying in nursing for 20 years is a positive reflection of your character. It is a difficult profession to stay in without becoming burned out from the emotional demands and/or jaded.

ms. malone [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

wow, Yvonne, that's pretty cool we're both (experienced) RN's.... I knew we'd probably find more ways we are alike than different if we had the chance.... and now I know of 2 just from our posts this week.

You know, i agree.... (as with most issues) the health care one is very complex and doesn't fit into definitive (all or none) categories. My experience is only in acute care, and each of the hospitals I have worked for are non-profit ones. From this perspective, the biggest problem I am exposed to is that because the many people who do not have insurance (and cannot afford health care from a physician's office out of pocket--- it IS expensive) overload the ER's and have to wait until a problem becomes a life-or-death issue to seek treatment. And/ OR they go to the ER for totally inappropriate reasons, which also burdens the system and true emergency cases.

I do know of programs such as HealthServe here in Gso that are committed to providing care to the underpriviledged, but admittedly, I don't know much about how such programs work. I also have read periodically about nurses and docs who volunteer their time at clinics.... I feel that programs such as these are a positive start.

And no, I haven't burned out (yet) or become jaded. I can't imagine why anyone in a profession would "talk smack" about it and yet stay in it (And I know there's alot of them out there that do just that).... It just makes them (and the system) look bad and makes them a victim (instead of using whatever will they have to change their circumstances). If you hate it, chances are you're not doing anybody any favors by being there....

Which is why when I accept assigments, I always remember what we were taught (way back then) at university: treat each person as they were your own family member. That has never failed me over the years. And... I can't recall even one RN (i.e., caregiver at the bedside) that I've ever worked with to make it a habit of checking their patient's insurance status before offering care.

Thanks for your kind words, Yvonne, and for the "good you do" as well.....
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wish I had more time to comment on some of the other stuff going on in this thread, but I don't.... something tells me you all will do just fine without me! I'll look forward to reading the updates tomorrow.

Happy weekend, all.

James D. Rockefeller [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

From your link, Neo:

"She said that she won't have to worry about paying for her gas or mortgage, not that she won't have to pay for her gas or mortgage".

neocon [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

So?

verelse [TypeKey Profile Page] said:
Yvonne [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

neo's attitude and his twisting of the truth is typical of the repub party. And that is what has gotten America on the road to destruction. Too many people who are willing to spread gossip, stretch the truth, twist the truth or tell out and out lies.

It's not that folks with the attitude of "So?" don't know any better, they deliberately choose to misrepresent the situation because it fits into their preconceived little mold of an inferiority of others. The truth does not support their agenda. Pitiful.

Yvonne [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

mold=notion

neocon [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

Yvonne how is showing a video of a person singing the praises of the little messiah 'twisting the truth'?

Here's the twist: "She said that she won't have to worry about paying for her gas or mortgage, not that she won't have to pay for her gas or mortgage".


So? She won't have to worry about paying for her gas and mortgage when the little messiah reaches the top of the mountain.

There's going to be a lot of disappointed folks come the end of January and they discover the bank still wants their mortgage and car payments and when they fill up their tanks, the service station still expects payment for it, and when they go to the grocery store, there too, they have to pa....oops...scratch that one.

Look at the joy, relief, and exhilaration expressed by this woman at the idea that once elected the little messiah will "help her because she helped Him" and will have to [worry] about paying her way in life no more.

This is the cancerous effect liberalism has on a society. It takes perfectly capable people and turns them into drones dependant government's ability to confiscate other people's property and turn it over to them in return for their vote.

Thanks, FDR. (honorable mention to LBJ... of course!)

rahrah [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

I don't know, neo. I think you are too quick to assume the worst. She says she won't have to worry about paying for these things...she doesn't say why she won't have to worry. Maybe it is is that she expects a check from Barry, but maybe it isn't. More likely is that she thinks she won't have to worry about it because she hopes or believes 'things' will be better...things like the economy...her ability to find and keep work...lower gas prices...and whatever.

Perhaps her hopes won't come true, but I see no indication that she's excited because she'll no longer have to 'pay her own way.'

She thinks she's going to get a 'fair shake' and all that hullabaloo.

neocon [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

Well in that case rahrah, I guess it was well worth taking the kids out of school to teach them how a Marxist politician can improve their lot in life...they won't have the need for reading comprehension as long as they can scribble their john henrys on the back of the government check.

Another cancerous effect liberalism has infested our society with is the phenomenon of apologists rushing to the defense of the socialists when they speak off the cuff and tell us what they really believe.

But we've already learned in this campaign that what one said...He didn't really say. And what one did...He really didn't do. And how one voted...He didn't really vote, it was His staff that screwed up.

neocon [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

I'm off to work now...the little messiah needs the money.

rahrah [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

I don't know what she was thinking and neither do you. For this reason, neither one of our opinions is more or less valid.

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