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With the country falling apart this is as ignorant of a way to make the decision that will affect the path the country will be on for the next 4 years as I can think of. Is Dennis trying to prove that he can be just as stupid as the guy(s) that did this? No wonder this country is screwed up.

Dennis go turn in your voting registration. You're not of sound mind.

Dennis says "In a spiteful response to the idiot(s) that lives next door to me I'm letting the idiots in Washington off the hook."

You becha, Joe Sixpack!

"Let’s get behind...Sen. McCain in his run for president. We do not need thugs in this race."

So who's the thug in this race, exactly? I know Senator Obama was in Greensboro recently, are you suggesting he was the thug/vandal who trashed some campaign signs?

What's next, calling him a terrorist? Oh wait the highly moral Sarah Palin already did that.

Regarding Obama and terrorists: what would you say about me if I chilled out with unrepentant abortion clinic bombers? I do not, because that would imply that I approved of them. Why does Obama get a pass on this?

Gotta go with Rufus on this one, however vandalizing or stealing signs is childish and wrong.

Set a few rat traps, the big ones, around your signs Dennis, the thugs won't see them at night and may encounter a surprise.

The Vandals gave Rome a run for their money. I'm sure this is a different group of Vandals. Probabably a lower case vandal preparing the way for a lower case messiah. But McCain makes me sick too. I carry a 5 gallon plastic bucket around my neck just in case i accidentally see McAin or Obama on TV..I can hurl in the bucket and not leave a mess for someone to clean up...unlike the 2 parties peddaling their gods of flesh.

"We do not need thugs in this race." Ah, Southern racism. Priceless.

"Regarding Obama and terrorists." I see that Sarah Palin is not the only one that is talking about Obama palling around with Ayers. Palin and her husband attended Alaskan Independence Party conventions. The AIP wants Alaska to secede from the USA. The party’s founder Joe Vogler made the following statements about the US:

"The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government, and I won't be buried under their damn flag.”

"I'm an Alaskan, not an American. I've got no use for America or her damned institutions.”

I’ve seen a lot of people rant about Rev. Wright and his incendiary remarks about America. Do Vogler’s remarks count as incendiary? If you are a Palin supporter, the answer is no. The hypocrisy will not allow Palin supporters to remove the log from their own eyes. How dare she talk about the company that others keep. Mamaboilermaker, I seriously doubt that Obama knew that Ayers had his terrorist past. Do you check the criminal records of those people that you associate with?

Ahhh, Conundrum, so nice to see SOMEONE actually using their head!

Conumdrum.....do you doubt the sanction of the Almighty upon the Artic Harlot, the Stumping Strumpet, the nictitating Northern Whore who was blessed by a Nubian shaman to make way for the baby rambo jesus to occupy her own soul and Iraq? Kaffirs and infidels as yourself will quake when her most sacred whiskered biscuit takes the chair behind the old one. You will bow and you will like it.

Now the rest of the story...

Dennis McLoughlin is not just a real-estate appraiser who loves to drive around town. He also donated his beach condo to be auctioned off by the Joe Wilson Campaign.

This reminds me of last years City Council election. In a November 7, 2007 report by Jim Schlosser it says "Outside Precinct 20, which votes at Page High School, District 3 candidates Zack Matheny and Joe Wilson reportedly argued over missing campaign signs. "He accused me of something that didn't happen" Matheny said. He denied he took
Wilson's signs and said that some of his own were gone. Wilson denied harsh words were
spoken".

It appears Wilson is developing an m.o.

MamaB, you need to look beyond your hero's stump speech, and consider the facts.

I just knew there had to be an element of racism involved here somehow. Just had to turn over the right rock.

I'm so looking forward to the little messiah's healing hand putting a stop to all this division taking place in the country.

All one has to do is look at the demeanor of His sage mentors like Calypso Louie who have guided His wise and blessed hand in such matters to realize He is The Chosen One:

"If McCain wins, look for a full-fledged race and class war, fueled by a deflated and depressed country, soaring crime, homelessness — and hopelessness!"

Fatima Ali of the Philadelphia Daily News

My guess is Fatima already has her dashiki dry cleaned and ready for the celebration.

"Why does Obama get a pass on this?"

Simple...because the propaganda wing of the democratic party (who call themselves the media) has decided that His ties to terrorists, thug felons, and anti-American bigots would be detrimental to His campagian.

At the Dixie Classic, there were charging $14 / sign

Conundrum,
Did you see Frank Rich's column today? Seems the pitbull is quoting a known racist in her speeches, hoping no one catches it. (Of course, with her intellect, she probably doesn't know WHO she's quoting)

neocon,
You ARE a racist. Your posts generally lack one thing, and that is the actual dropping of the "N" bomb. You do nothing for McCain by using race as your supporting logic. From using "shillrun" and other racial epithets, you show just how uneducated, shallow and mean you really are. You are a sad character that seems to blame your low station in life on others--you are just a victim. Bless your heart.

October 12, 2008

The Terrorist Barack Hussein Obama
By FRANK RICH

IF you think way back to the start of this marathon campaign, back when it seemed preposterous that any black man could be a serious presidential contender, then you remember the biggest fear about Barack Obama: a crazy person might take a shot at him.

Some voters told reporters that they didn’t want Obama to run, let alone win, should his very presence unleash the demons who have stalked America from Lincoln to King. After consultation with Congress, Michael Chertoff, the homeland security secretary, gave Obama a Secret Service detail earlier than any presidential candidate in our history — in May 2007, some eight months before the first Democratic primaries.

“I’ve got the best protection in the world, so stop worrying,” Obama reassured his supporters. Eventually the country got conditioned to his appearing in large arenas without incident (though I confess that the first loud burst of fireworks at the end of his convention stadium speech gave me a start). In America, nothing does succeed like success. The fear receded.

Until now. At McCain-Palin rallies, the raucous and insistent cries of “Treason!” and “Terrorist!” and “Kill him!” and “Off with his head!” as well as the uninhibited slinging of racial epithets, are actually something new in a campaign that has seen almost every conceivable twist. They are alarms. Doing nothing is not an option.

All’s fair in politics. John McCain and Sarah Palin have every right to bring up William Ayers, even if his connection to Obama is minor, even if Ayers’s Weather Underground history dates back to Obama’s childhood, even if establishment Republicans and Democrats alike have collaborated with the present-day Ayers in educational reform. But it’s not just the old Joe McCarthyesque guilt-by-association game, however spurious, that’s going on here. Don’t for an instant believe the many mindlessly “even-handed” journalists who keep saying that the McCain campaign’s use of Ayers is the moral or political equivalent of the Obama campaign’s hammering on Charles Keating.

What makes them different, and what has pumped up the Weimar-like rage at McCain-Palin rallies, is the violent escalation in rhetoric, especially (though not exclusively) by Palin. Obama “launched his political career in the living room of a domestic terrorist.” He is “palling around with terrorists” (note the plural noun). Obama is “not a man who sees America the way you and I see America.” Wielding a wildly out-of-context Obama quote, Palin slurs him as an enemy of American troops.

By the time McCain asks the crowd “Who is the real Barack Obama?” it’s no surprise that someone cries out “Terrorist!” The rhetorical conflation of Obama with terrorism is complete. It is stoked further by the repeated invocation of Obama’s middle name by surrogates introducing McCain and Palin at these rallies. This sleight of hand at once synchronizes with the poisonous Obama-is-a-Muslim e-mail blasts and shifts the brand of terrorism from Ayers’s Vietnam-era variety to the radical Islamic threats of today.

That’s a far cry from simply accusing Obama of being a guilty-by-association radical leftist. Obama is being branded as a potential killer and an accessory to past attempts at murder. “Barack Obama’s friend tried to kill my family” was how a McCain press release last week packaged the remembrance of a Weather Underground incident from 1970 — when Obama was 8.

We all know what punishment fits the crime of murder, or even potential murder, if the security of post-9/11 America is at stake. We all know how self-appointed “patriotic” martyrs always justify taking the law into their own hands.

Obama can hardly be held accountable for Ayers’s behavior 40 years ago, but at least McCain and Palin can try to take some responsibility for the behavior of their own supporters in 2008. What’s troubling here is not only the candidates’ loose inflammatory talk but also their refusal to step in promptly and strongly when someone responds to it with bloodthirsty threats in a crowded arena. Joe Biden had it exactly right when he expressed concern last week that “a leading American politician who might be vice president of the United States would not just stop midsentence and turn and condemn that.” To stay silent is to pour gas on the fires.

It wasn’t always thus with McCain. In February he loudly disassociated himself from a speaker who brayed “Barack Hussein Obama” when introducing him at a rally in Ohio. Now McCain either backpedals with tardy, pro forma expressions of respect for his opponent or lets second-tier campaign underlings release boilerplate disavowals after ugly incidents like the chilling Jim Crow-era flashback last week when a Florida sheriff ranted about “Barack Hussein Obama” at a Palin rally while in full uniform.

From the start, there have always been two separate but equal questions about race in this election. Is there still enough racism in America to prevent a black man from being elected president no matter what? And, will Republicans play the race card? The jury is out on the first question until Nov. 4. But we now have the unambiguous answer to the second: Yes.

McCain, who is no racist, turned to this desperate strategy only as Obama started to pull ahead. The tone was set at the Republican convention, with Rudy Giuliani’s mocking dismissal of Obama as an “only in America” affirmative-action baby. We also learned then that the McCain campaign had recruited as a Palin handler none other than Tucker Eskew, the South Carolina consultant who had worked for George W. Bush in the notorious 2000 G.O.P. primary battle where the McCains and their adopted Bangladeshi daughter were slimed by vicious racist rumors.

No less disconcerting was a still-unexplained passage of Palin’s convention speech: Her use of an unattributed quote praising small-town America (as opposed to, say, Chicago and its community organizers) from Westbrook Pegler, the mid-century Hearst columnist famous for his anti-Semitism, racism and violent rhetorical excess. After an assassin tried to kill F.D.R. at a Florida rally and murdered Chicago’s mayor instead in 1933, Pegler wrote that it was “regrettable that Giuseppe Zangara shot the wrong man.” In the ’60s, Pegler had a wish for Bobby Kennedy: “Some white patriot of the Southern tier will spatter his spoonful of brains in public premises before the snow falls.”

This is the writer who found his way into a speech by a potential vice president at a national political convention. It’s astonishing there’s been no demand for a public accounting from the McCain campaign. Imagine if Obama had quoted a Black Panther or Louis Farrakhan — or William Ayers — in Denver.

The operatives who would have Palin quote Pegler have been at it ever since. A key indicator came two weeks after the convention, when the McCain campaign ran its first ad tying Obama to the mortgage giant Fannie Mae. Rather than make its case by using a legitimate link between Fannie and Obama (or other Democratic leaders), the McCain forces chose a former Fannie executive who had no real tie to Obama or his campaign but did have a black face that could dominate the ad’s visuals.

There are no black faces high in the McCain hierarchy to object to these tactics. There hasn’t been a single black Republican governor, senator or House member in six years. This is a campaign where Palin can repeatedly declare that Alaska is “a microcosm of America” without anyone even wondering how that might be so for a state whose tiny black and Hispanic populations are each roughly one-third the national average. There are indeed so few people of color at McCain events that a black senior writer from The Tallahassee Democrat was mistakenly ejected by the Secret Service from a campaign rally in Panama City in August, even though he was standing with other reporters and showed his credentials. His only apparent infraction was to look glaringly out of place.

Could the old racial politics still be determinative? I’ve long been skeptical of the incessant press prognostications (and liberal panic) that this election will be decided by racist white men in the Rust Belt. Now even the dimmest bloviators have figured out that Americans are riveted by the color green, not black — as in money, not energy. Voters are looking for a leader who might help rescue them, not a reckless gambler whose lurching responses to the economic meltdown (a campaign “suspension,” a mortgage-buyout stunt that changes daily) are as unhinged as his wanderings around the debate stage.

To see how fast the tide is moving, just look at North Carolina. On July 4 this year — the day that the godfather of modern G.O.P. racial politics, Jesse Helms, died — The Charlotte Observer reported that strategists of both parties agreed Obama’s chances to win the state fell “between slim and none.” Today, as Charlotte reels from the implosion of Wachovia, the McCain-Obama race is a dead heat in North Carolina and Helms’s Republican successor in the Senate, Elizabeth Dole, is looking like a goner.

But we’re not at Election Day yet, and if voters are to have their final say, both America and Obama have to get there safely. The McCain campaign has crossed the line between tough negative campaigning and inciting vigilantism, and each day the mob howls louder. The onus is on the man who says he puts his country first to call off the dogs, pit bulls and otherwise.

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Yep, Westbrook Pegler is the perfect one to quote if you are a racist.

Dennis,

While I think that calling sign vandalizers is "thugs" is a little over the top I hope all people that do this are caught. They violate not only property rights but more importantly freedom of speech rights. We all have to allow each other the right to be wrong whatever that may mean.

neocon,
"You ARE a racist."

Wow, within a few hours a calm discussion about vandalizing election signs deteriorates into accusations of racism and some good 'ol fashioned Palin bashing to boot. Whasamatter guys? No Palin letters today, but you just can't contain yourselves?

Ahhh, back to some sensibility, thank you Rufus for your above post. We should all agree that one has the right to place an election sign on his/her private property without someone stealing or vandalizing it.

Yes the term thug is a bit strong, but it certainly isn't a racist word, much less a racist word specific to a geographical region of the United States.

thug

a cruel or vicious ruffian, robber, or murderer.

dennis the sign policeman: i'd rather get behind palin and make her crow like a rooster then bark like a dog...the obama signs and the mccain signs remind me of why i stuck a hot poker in my lazy eye, then twisted it round and round until it quit steaming....mind your own business in your own yard

Dan,
I take it from your little ditty above, that you did NOT read the Frank Rich piece.

Dan, you really aren't very smart now are you? I mean, if you can't understand "code" that has been used against blacks in the South, then you must be from north of the Mason-Dixon Line or were raised in a racist family down here. I really hope you came from Connecticut or New Jersey, because if you grew up here, you should be ashamed.

"Mamaboilermaker, I seriously doubt that Obama knew that Ayers had his terrorist past. Do you check the criminal records of those people that you associate with?"

I can assure you that if I found out one of my friends had bombed the Pentagon, they would be scratched off my guest list for any future dinner parties, and I would not want them associated with my political career, if I had one. They would be on my prayer list, but not be one of my buddies.

Thanks for another jewel Demon Deacon. You and conundrum are peas in a pod in finding racism under every rock, except he can express himself without belittling of others with whom he disagrees. You have the sole honor in that regard, congrats.

Wow again, using the term thug is code word for racism geographically limited to the southern United States. The above definition of thug was from dictionary.com, here is the one from Merriam-Webster:

thug Listen to the pronunciation of thug
Pronunciation:
\ˈthəg\
Function:
noun
Etymology:
Hindi & Urdu ṭhag, literally, thief
Date:
1810

From Encarta:

thug [ thug ] (plural thugs)

noun
Definition:

1. brutal person: somebody, especially a criminal, who is brutal and violent

2. Indian robber: a member of a former secret organization of robbers in India, worshipers of the goddess Kali, who strangled their victims

[Early 19th century. < Hindi ṭhag "swindler, cheat, robber" < Sanskrit sthagayati "covers, conceals"]

Oh wait, wait, wait, .........I just found the website for Democrats.org. According to them, 2Pac wrote a song called "Definition of a thug" and specifically mentions "Definition of a thug nigga". So if Democrats.org and 2Pac deem it so then the word thug is inherently racist.

http://www.democrats.org/page/community/post/UnitedWeStandTogether/CVbN

Of course, if you look at the bottom of the link, the word thug is the new "N" word, got it. Read the lyrics, quite interesting, but even 'ol 2Pac didn't confine the word to the South.

A thousand pardons, if some guy mugs me I will not refer to him as a thug to the police, I would never want to use such a racist word :)

Thanks again for the jewel.

Now I get it...one is a racist if you don't read Frank Rich and 'The Nation'. LOL!!!

Liberal Canadian, don't you ever tire of being the white toady in these blogs? What's up with you dude...you have a black boyfriend, or are you one of the white toads that lives in a gated community and lack the balls to travel into the hood after dark? You know...like Frank Rich.

neo..wassup my thug

Neo, according to Demon Deacon, not only are you a racist is you don't read Frank Rich, you are an idiot.

I personally like my 12:39 post which defines "thug" as ruffian, you know, like those ruffians in Paris and London. Remember?

Dan, would that 2pac make a great Sec. of State or what?

I went back and read the Frank Rich piece, but until these pointy headed liberals who live in Manhattan donate their wealth to charity, sell their penthouses, and move to a Harlem slum, they have zero credibility on this subject. But that doesn't stop the stooges from CHUGGING the kool-ade and telling everyone else how racist they are because they dare not support the little messiah. Chris Mathews can feel that tingle all the way up his leg, but he dare not show his white a$$ in the hood after dark, it won't be a tingle he feels.

Do I remember THE LIBERAL CANADIAN'S undercover op in Paris and London?...Of course! I'm trying to convince him/her to share it with our new friends here, but so far he/she has resisted. (Maybe reluctant to blow his cover?) I'm tempted to 'out' him anyway. :]

chucka, that's "Thug Tizzle".

thug tizzle fer shizzle -you are off dah chain Neonizzle

You wants da real scoop, Forget Frank Rich...check dis out:

http://www.kronick.com/2.0/issue31/yuckmouth.shtml

You cannot take away from these people the right to cry "racism" with every breath they spew out.
If not for their battle cry ,"racism" they would have no excuses for their miserable failures in their life.It's all they got.

I don't read NYT columnists. I value the opinions of humble and honest people.

I consider the current attack by members of the Bush Administration on our national finances to be terrorism: "Give us control of all of the money and power with no questions or we will destroy the economy".

If Bill Ayers, a very minor association for Obama throws into question Obama's sincerity, then I am sure the Republicans will want to withdraw McCain's nomination since he admittedly took money from a criminal thug who was robbing ordinary Americans of their savings. His destruction was of a much larger scale than was Ayers though theoretically non-violent. Has anyone accused Ayers of actually bombing anything? But Keating, a buddy and owner of McCain, actually paid him to protect him from investigation into his illegal activities.
Knowing that Republicans must be sincere and not just partisan, I am sure they would not be able to vote for McCain now that they are aware of how corrupt and dishonest he is personally as opposed to guilt by association.
I am also sure that if anyone here has ever been associated with anyone who has done bad things, felonious thing, etc. that these people will resign from any positions of authority or power, whatever they may be, as these people are no longer trustworthy and must be guilty of the same things as the people with whom they associate.
See the difference? Obama's is a guilt by association, McCain's is a guilt by personal action. For the partisans here, this is irrelevant. For the rest of us, it is very relevant.
I am sure all of you who claim this association makes Obama guilty must have a spotless record of association since, by your definition, you are guilty of any crime committed by any person with whom you ever associated.
Since we are setting up straw men for our arguments, I thought I would set up a mirror for you to look in.

Back to the topic at hand, is the writer wondering about the destroyed and missing Obama signs in Hamilton Lakes? How about the same thing happens every year?

It is anti-American for ANYONE to suppress the free political speech of anyone else. Can we all agree there?
It is also illegal to place campaign signs on other people's property, even within the "right-of-way". Remember that right of way is still private property unless eminent domain is exercised or placed into use by proper authorization and within the scope of usage laws. Placing your sign in my yard even in the right of way is illegal and is criminal trespass.

If it is a Bev Perdue sign then you are guilty of lowering my home value (jk).

For people who live on corners this is a constant problem, signs popping up like mushrooms in MY yard. They will be removed whomever they are for.

I will repeat in case you missed it:

It is anti-American for ANYONE to suppress the free political speech of anyone else.

But stay on your own d*mn property.

encroachment is very american....boston tea party, tar and feathering dissenters, putting native americans on collective farms comes to mind..the sign stuff is for the participants in the annointing of illegitimate gods of flesh is a running joke. Demos, the demon god of the many, is laffing his hooves off.

As for neo being a racist, I have seen or heard nothing from him that would indicate such sentiment. It is too easy to accuse each other of being disingenuous and insincere, easier than listening and arguing from a rational perspective.

Would anyone else agree that posting ENTIRE articles is inappropriate? post a link, we can click and read without cluttering this space.

"I consider the current attack by members of the Bush Administration on our national finances to be terrorism: "Give us control of all of the money and power with no questions or we will destroy the economy""

You are normally quite balanced verelse but that statement, imho, is a bit far fetched. I didn't like Bush's idea in the first place, but keep in mind a majority of Democrats supported it versus Republicans. The final vote in the House was 263 to 171, with 91 Republicans joining 172 Democrats voting yes. Does that mean those 172 Dems are terrorists as well? How bout the initial $$$ allocated to ACORN that got booted out? Were the supporters of ACORN terrorists as well?

I'll chalk it up to having a bad day, you are normally more fair.

".....since he admittedly took money from a criminal thug who was....."

BTW, don't use the word "thug", according to Demon Deacon, 2Pac, and conundrum it is racist.

Agreed on the last two posts verelse, 1) I won't put any signs on your yard and; 2) the race card is played waaaaaaaaay too much. Did you know the word "thug" is code and is therefore a racist term?

And agreed as well, a link is sufficient rather than an entire article, op-ed, etc. Rahrah suggested that yesterday and I approve his message.

"It is anti-American for ANYONE to suppress the free political speech of anyone else. Can we all agree there?"

Probably need to let Obama know about that. Here's the cease and desist letter to TV stations regarding an ad he doesn't approve of:

http://www.nraila.org/media/PDFs/ObamaLetterNRAAd.pdf

Here's a link to the factcheck response:
http://www.nraila.org/media/PDFs/wp_response_obamaads.pdf

It seems that if you can't point to votes or a past record to show what you're made of and to support your current (read "campaign") position, just threaten legal action and suppress freedom of speech.

Change.

Now that I think about it, that's two Amendments at once. Nice.

But, FWIW, at least he and McCain agree on something other than amnesty for illegal aliens.

Yeah, V, I am sooooo for just posting links.

Agreed rahrah, instead of posting the entire weather forecast I'll link it:

http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?CityName=Greensboro&state=NC&site=RAH&textField1=36.0789&textField2=-79.8269

Good flyin weather. I head out Tuesday.

Dan,

I stand by my statement but amend it to include the crooks in Congress.

Roger, the right to free speech does not include libel or lies. I am an NRA member and contribute to NRA-ILA but those ads they ran were a bit over the top and contained many dubious assertions. I am a member of the Sierra Club and they sometimes use the same tactics.

And Dan's link to the weather is the most useful one posted here. Have a nice flight. Can I jump out of your plane sometime?

Amendment accepted verelse, I just thought the term "terrorist" was a bit over the top.

I've never had someone jump out of my plane before, not intentionally at least ;-)

Dennis McLoughlin "Every election year, candidates spend a great deal of time and money on signs."

Lie: On the national level candidates make a great deal of money on signs. Maybe someone in the business of selling signs is behind this conspiracy.

It's a weird election when bringing up verifiable past votes and positions is seen as slander and lies.

And, instead of addressing them publicly for fear of specificity (because they actually *were* indefensible positions Obama held prior to his presidential campaign), finding a solution in telling the media outlets, "We disapprove of that and you'd better shut up."