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The ill-informed should not be voting

The following is a Counterpoint:

By Robert Hudson

Your editorial, “Voting early and easy” (Nov. 8), perpetuated some popular misconceptions. The notion that everyone should vote is nonsense. Clearly, there are many eligible voters who should not vote.

Take, for instance, the Harlem residents who were interviewed by Howard Stern and whose comments were posted on YouTube. When asked what was more important, Obama’s determination to stay in Iraq until the war was won, or his anti-abortion stance, they replied that both were important.

Was Palin a good choice as Obama’s running mate? Of course she was.

Other questions, attributing McCain’s positions to Obama, were asked, with similar results.

In short, they knew nothing about Obama beyond his skin pigmentation. Nothing else mattered. They did not trouble themselves to learn anything else about him.

Those people shouldn’t have been allowed within a block of the polls on Election Day. And those who refused to vote for Obama because of pigmentation are no more deserving.

Peggy the Moocher is another fine example. Peggy, also found on YouTube, is the bouncing Obama supporter gushing that she wouldn’t have to worry about putting gas in her car or paying the mortgage. Barack would take care of her.

I got the impression that she almost expected him to hand-deliver a check every month. Well, I can understand how she expects that; he did sort of promise that.

Voting is serious business. It is the responsibility of everyone who votes to know just why he or she is voting for a candidate.

We just elected the least-experienced candidate in history, at perhaps the most critical time, largely on the basis of skin color. God help us.

And just how difficult is voting, anyway? It took me 20 minutes, including travel. If you don’t want to risk having to stand in line, you can request and cast an absentee ballot in your pajamas. It doesn’t get any easier than that.

As your editorial pointed out, all you have to do is ask. It’s not as if you have to fight through a pack of rabid pit bulls.

All you have to do is ask.

If you can’t trouble yourself to learn a little something about a candidate, and then go to the polls on Election Day or cast an absentee ballot, the country would be better served without your vote.

The writer lives in Pelham.

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Rufus_T.Firefly [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

"Was Palin a good choice as Obama’s running mate? Of course she was."

Robert turn in your ballot!

No she was a better choice! I wish Allen Johnson liberal pundit , would print her management of Alaska, to that of Tax Hike Mike of NC,. Of course that will never happen.
This paper is to busy implying Plain did porn movies. Did anyone of you read about Joe's family and drugs, did you read about Joe's brother being sued for fraud.
I worked the polls, I heard many times, Obama going to give us a $1500 check. That a damn good reason to vote for someone!
I have offered to bet Allen Johnson, And Doug Clark, several times on the BS they printed, neither has taken me up yet! Never will.

Did Tax Hike Mike raise local sales taxes by 25%, Doggie? Palin did.

Yvonne [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

I would bet big bucks Mr. Hudson would not have a problem had those "ill informed" people been voting for McCain. His is just another twist on the "whining" game. The fact that he is still defending the inept Ms. Palin is enough proof that HE is the one who is ill informed for me. She was not only an extremely poor choice, she was a dangerous choice. The way that treacherous woman turned on McCain is nothing short of shameful. Her ambition far exceeds her ability.

Dan [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

Heeeeeereeeessss Peggy!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P36x8rTb3jI

Rufus, correct me if I'm wrong but ya might have misunderstood, Robert was referencing Obama voters in regards to them thinking Palin was on his ticket.

Obama won Robert, get over it. There are idiots of all stripes who vote.

The scary part is the mentality of people like Peggy. Instead of being proud that a black person could become president and it inspiring her to better her life and that of her children, she sees govt. as a meal ticket.

Happy Thanksgiving to all.

neocon [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

Good letter, Mr. Hudson. I see so far no refutation of the facts you present, just more of the old 'sour grapes whining' routine that in itself is proof that you're right.

The Thug Thizzles ("hey man, you know, like dis merika baby n you know dey offered me cigarettes n all you know") elected the little messiah and yes, they DO expect the check to be hand delivered every month...and they are probably spot on.

neocon [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

Firefly, did you vote?

Rufus_T.Firefly [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

"The way that treacherous woman turned on McCain is nothing short of shameful. Her ambition far exceeds her ability. "

Bingo Yvonne,

She has made a career of turning on mentors. Once a stepping stone has been used you don't need them anymore.

She did bring some much needed comedy relief to the campaign. Listening to her call Obama a socialist while she tries to milk the oil companies to mail bigger checks to her constituents was priceless.

She was an excellent speaker who had nothing to say.

Nice wardrobe though.

You are also right about Mr. Hudson. He seemed only concern when the ignorance was shown by Obama supporters. You could disenfranchise the whole Fox news team who didn't seem to know what a socialist was or seriously entertained the concept that having Russia close by counted as foreign policy experience.

What Mr. Hudson is proposing is attractive on the face of it but stupid in practice. I mean who decides who's eligible? He sounds like he wants the process to shape the outcome.

What's funny about it is that after hearing how the Obama folks are elitists here come this call from the right calling for the elites only to be able to vote.

Rufus_T.Firefly [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

Dan,

You're right. I skimmed over that point. My bad.

He's right it was funny if some Obama supporters thought she was a good addition to the Obama ticket.

It's even funnier that some McCain supporters thought the same thing about her being on the McCain ticket.

Dan [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

You reminded me of the thug thizzle voter Neo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQsG6MHCxCU

Dan [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

And NYTimes columnist Gail Collins is calling for Bush/Cheney to resign so Pelosi can become president under the auspices of Obama.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/22/opinion/22collins.html?_r=1

These BDS sufferers amaze me. Their man won and will take over in less than 2 months but that's not soon enough.

Even scarier than Peggy the Moocher is the idea of Nancy Pelosi becoming president. I hope Obama and Biden stay in good health.

Rufus_T.Firefly [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

"Firefly, did you vote?"

Neo,

Nah they told me at the polling station that I was too dumb to vote. I tried to vote on Wednesday on the Democratic voting day, following Tuesday's Republican voting day. I sure was grateful that one of my Republican friends told me about the new system vote the different partisans and different days to eliminate crowds on election day. It must have worked pretty well because there wasn't a crowd on Democratic day but the librarian where I vote told me that I had it all wrong & Tuesday was Democratic day and Wednesday was Republican day so I just went home. Apparently Obama did well enough on Democratic day that they just canceled Republican Voting Day.

Maybe Robert is right & I do need to keep better informed if I want to vote!

molly the dog [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

Robert,

So how do we determine whether a voter is ill informed. Is there a political mulitple choice test. I think one could argue that an ill informed voter may be more capable of voting correctly than a "party zealot" who votes with emotional reasons. Some may agree that a atheist has no basis to vote because their core values are nonexistent, which is hog wash. What about a voter who has watched Fox News too much or listened to NPR for their information. Some would consider these voters ill informed or misinformed. I think every voter would consider themself ill informed some time during the life. How many judges have you voted for who you knew or had an understanding of their position. Ignorance abounds, even with those who think they are the informed, but collectively the best choice is made. I have much faith in the public and the average citizen.

Lastly, there was more political debate over the last year than in previous periods. Neighbors debated and bloggers went wild on this site. I think there was far more information out there than ever. I only wished the voters could have recognized their errors eight years ago. Now those were some ill informed voters and a great example of voter stupidity in recent history. We should develop the questionaire based on this serious voter error of eight years ago. If they indicate the same tilt of error or illogic they should fall threw the trap floor. Just some humor!

miktay [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

Robert--While we are taking inventory or those too ignorant to vote, lets not forget Joe the Plumber, who stubbornly continued to believe Obama was going to raise his taxes despite any evidence and constant disclaimers.

You see, Robert, ignorance is often in the eye of the beholder. Like others have pointed out, who gets to decide?

Truth is, as Molly points out, there is more than enough ignorance to go around. The solution to ignorant voting is not to bar voters from voting. The solution is to root out ignorance.

We could start by requiring our schools to teach civics again. There was a nice column on that recently. We could also come up with some kind of mechanism to punish candidates and campaigns that perpetrate obvious lies. Many of the campaign ads aired would not pass the truth in advertising laws if it were toothpaste or soda being sold instead of political candidates.

Dan [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

Rufus, when I went to the polls a nice young man approached me. He had a shirt with a drawing of some kind of nut, oh that's right...he told me it was an acorn. He offered to show me how to vote and said I would get a free pack of cigarettes in return. When I told him I don't smoke he said he would donate them to the needy homeless, many of whom these people with the nut shirts were bringing into the polling location.

I agreed and we went in. He pressed the Obama button for me and then the straight Democratic ticket, told me it saves time and energy and would help the homeless people outside be able to come in from the rain more quickly.

Then, just as promised, he handed a pack of cigarettes to the homeless man behind me, and that man smiled and thanked me three times. I felt good all inside.

He then told me there were other people with nut shirts a few miles down the road at another polling place. He said I should vote as many times as possible as it would help even more homeless people. When I asked if I could vote again he told me certainly, they would have a new name for me at the next location.

Thanks to these nice people with the nut shirts I got to vote 19 times!!! If only Typepad were that easy!!

.. and if only you were not full of more shit than rufus.

Beachwalker [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

The demoRATs don't want educated voters. If voters were truely educated on the candidates the dems would lose everytime. The dems also don't want people to be OFF of welfare. They actually would like to have MORE uneducated voters dependant on goverment . The only way they can get votes to to promise more goverment give-a-ways. As long as dems platform consist only of "vote for me and I'll give you something for nothing" then the un-educated will continue to vote for more dependence on goverment . Sorry if you libs don't like this, but sometimes the TRUTH hurts.

Rufus_T.Firefly [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

So my sand strolling friend. Who has been proposing the great government give-a-ways lately.

Ah, if life was only as simple as we would all like it to be.

I hope that it was a good Thanksgiving for you all!

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