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Obama has done nothing but write bad checks. But, if I were married to an NBA drag queen, I'd stay at the mall too. Ugh.

I wish he had to explain just exactly what derivatives are, how much was stolen, why he's chosen to let the vast majority of white collar criminals off the hook and which minister of propaganda gets to choose what it's called.

Michigan State by seven...

Good letter, SD...I agree

"I wish he had to explain just exactly what derivatives are .. "

Like you can - in words we understand?

Back at you Robot. What is a derivative?

(zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz)

I never said I knew. You imply the prez should be able to ... maybe you can tell us ..

How about you can tell us what derivatives are, how much was stolen, why he's chosen to let the vast majority of white collar criminals off the hook and which minister of propaganda gets to choose what it's called.

A little less mouth and a little more informative conversation would raise your image.

Just a suggestion ....

I never said I knew either... qumquat.

I've been real worried about my image lately Rock, lordy, what can I do?

SD & CD
As far as abortion goes it's a personal matter. No one has the right to tell anyone what to do when it comes to his/her body. Well, I beg to differ with you on that. It's not just what she's doing to HER body because now she's dealing with another body, another human life. I agree she has the right to cut her arm off or whatever, but in my opinion, to take another life is murder whether it be in the womb or outside.

SD

I have not adopted any children but I've raised my own. My advise to women who do want children, for whatever reason, should take precautions rather than depending on abortions, tax funded or otherwise.

As far as medical issues, not much is private. Whenever someone has a medical problem, whether they have insurance or not, they cannot be denied service. Thus we all pay. So as far as abortion being a private issue, that would be only so when it is solely paid for by the person, not in any way subsidized by any public money. Oh, I forgot, you said "personal", which is not necessarily "private".
When Clinton left office, through much effort not of his making, yes, there was a budget surplus, but there were trillions of dollars of debt. Yes, Bush's administration added to that, and Obama's administration will make that total look paltry in comparison.

Yet another Hussein Bin Obama apologist who, lacking anything substantive or inspiring to say about the little messiah, has to resort to the old liberal catchall "Bush's mess" in a vain attempt to convince himself he cast a wise vote and was not led to the "D" lever by a smitten media or a racist affirmative action general.

Ban Ki-moon is now in charge of US national security.

Carolina by 12 -

"Ban Ki-moon is now in charge of US national security."

Is that better or worse than the Coalition of the Willing?

Balanced budget, unbalanced budget, debt and deficit, are they all the same thing?
They seem to be interchangable to some here.

I think the most important part of the letter was his
" time will tell". I think this is true, but I feel, it won't be pretty.

Better if you're one of the 'two or three hundred' ragheads inhabiting the caves along the Paaaaakistaaan/Afghanistan border that survived Bush.

Worse if you believe in American sovereignty.

Good op-ed by George Will, also in today's print N&R.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/04/03/AR2009040303025.html

"I’d like to ask the ones who think they have the right to comment on abortion: How many adopted kids or foster kids do you have?"

This is the dumbest argument I've ever heard, in fact I remember seeing it in this blog before.

I agree, Neo. Too bad our best'est friend Paaaaakistaaan - headed by Mr. coup d'état Musharraf - didn't get-'em while they could. After all .. you'd think $3 Billion would buy SOMEThing .. oh yea .. it bought the Taliban, my bad.

http://www.multiline.com.au/~johnm/taliban.htm

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2001/sep/20/pakistan.afghanistan

We have to give Obama time to figure out which congressional/senate districts and State Governorships are in most danger of losing to republicans in 2010 before stimulus money is provided wholesale. Doubling the national debt in 3 months means there's money to be spent eventually.

I'm sure when 2012 comes around the worshipers of the little messiah will be saying the same thing, "we've got to give Obama more time". I really don't need to give him anymore time. I already seen enough. How many times does the national debt have to triple before the little messiah's sheep see we're headed in the wrong direction? My guess is; it really doesn't matter, he is their god.

March and Sept. 2001. The US gave aid to Paaaakistaaan. Big whoop. This is a great example of 'with nothing of substance to say about the little messiah', the liberals turn back the clock in order to assuage their egos about being led astray by a smitten media or an affirmative action general.

How many times did Newt shut down the government before Clinton finally sent him a balanced budget and signed the "welfare to work" bill? At best, Clinton finally realized Newt was serious and decided to capitulate. Oh and by the way, the way he decided to send Newt a balanced budget was to decimate the Defense budget.

Bush was a drunken sailor for spending and Obama shows early signs of being the same in the name of "stimulus". The point is, regardless of the party of the "savior", it will take a cut in government spending to get us out of this mess.

gosh, neocon, molene, ghost, dan, hugh, jc, and beachwalker, y'all seem so smart. I wonder why Obama won the election by an electoral college landslide, and still enjoys a very high approval rating (mid 60%, latest ABC News poll). I guess the majority of American people just isn't as smart as y'all. Or are y'all what some people call stupid right- republicans. I'm just asking. And I'm not Harry truman.

gosh, i'm sorry, i forgot to add james d. to the list of notables. james, "derivatives?" c'mon, you know what that means. if not, i suggest you buy a dictionary if you want to understand right away what some of these smart left-wingers are saying these days. You know, I believe Obama graduated from Harvard Law, and is phi beta kappa (smart dude!) ok, ok, i know you don't have to be smart to chat on this site, there's plenty of evidence today (names listed) to support that opinion (i think). do you agree?

JDR,

You wanna take this one or shall we ignore this pea brain?

"I guess the majority of American people just isn't as smart as y'all."

Even pointy-eared erudite Northern liberals would cringe when reading such grammar and throw you out of the clique truman. For more authenticity I would suggest ain't instead of isn't.

"...i know you don't have to be smart to chat on this site,..."

You've aptly demonstrated that truman.

I think truman is Joe Biden...

"How many times does the national debt have to triple before the little messiah's sheep see we're headed in the wrong direction?"

You need to understand the math involved. By first spending ginormous amounts of money, he can later back off a few things and claim to have "cut spending." If you increase spending by 200%, then reduce it by 10% soon thereafter, people will believe you when you claim to have cut the budget.

This same ploy has been used against conservatives who reduced spending increases. If they cut a 10% increase to 5%, they were said to be cutting back programs and forcing grandmothers to eat dog food, even though overall spending had still increased.

Of course, most kids in schools today can't deal with percentages, fractions, decimals, and compound interest. We are all doomed.

Meanwhile our esteemed leader is in Prague telling the world we need a nuclear free planet and it's our (United States) moral responsibility to lead because no other country has used a nuclear weapon. This guy goes back to WWII to bash our country, a war in which and we and our allies saved the planet from Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan.

And ironically the same weekend N. Korea launches a missile and of course Obama turns to the spineless UN for direction.

Luckily N. Korea isn't too tech savvy, the missile sputtered into the ocean. Don't count out Tehran to do the same.

"This guy goes back to WWII to bash our country, a war in which and we and our allies saved the planet from Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan."

You ever think that he might be right?

Everybody seems to accept the argument that dropping the bomb in Japan (twice) was the right decision, and it may have been, but it's worth examining whether it was. The Allies would have won even if the bombs hadn't been dropped. If you read your history, you'll find that we were actually expecting a Japanese surrender any day, Consider that MacArthur did not agree with the decision to use the bomb, nor was he consulted.

You could imagine that the world might be a vastly different place if Little Boy and Fat Man had remained in their holds. For instance, the incidence of cancer might be less and the world more peaceful, or, on the flip-side, the Soviets might have been the first to use it...on us. Or they might not have....

Strangely, one of Truman's considerations when he decided to use the bomb was to prevent an arms race with Russia, and we all know how that turned out. Perhaps not

Would not a nuclear-free planet be great? Hell, one of this biggest reasons nations like Iran and the DPRK want nukes is because "everybody else" has them. That being said...it's a pipe dream. America will never voluntarily relinquish it's nukes...nor Russia or anyone else.

So while I think that nuclear-free world would be great, I don't think it will happen, nor do I necessarily believe trying to attain one is a worth goal. However, I definitely don't believe that P.BO was "bashing" America. I don't see anything wrong with an introspective examination of our past actions as a Nation and I don't believe that it's bad or wrong or unpatriotic to conclude that some of our actions that are accepted as "RIGHT" may in fact have been wrong.

There's nothing wrong with regret.

*...and we all know how that turned out. Perhaps not using ours would have yielded a different result.

hey rahrah, gonna watch the game tomorrow night?

Debate what you wish regarding Little Boy, Fat Man and surrender, but having a sitting president, in a foreign country for the matter, instill guilt on our country for an event that happened in 1945 is pathetic.

A really moving experience I had last year was meeting a Japanese woman, now American citizen, who lived in Nagasaki in 1945. She was a teenager at the time. After learning about the atomic bomb in Hiroshima the Japanese govt. distributed information for everyone to stay put, this was a one time event. Her mother didn't agree and evacuated the family out of Nagasaki. That decision most likely saved her life.

truman capote perhaps?
In spite of your poor grammar, you may have hit the nail on the head. I don't know, do you?

mamaboiler, i'll add your name to the list, if you don't mind. gosh, dan, i didn't mean to upset you, and i'll try to remember to use ain't instead of isn't the next time a similar opportunity arises! dan is you a english teacher? and by the way, y'all ain't told me why the majority of american people still seem to like the president, i can't understand it, can you? please explain it to me, dan, if you can. hey, dan if you can, that sounds like potry, don't it dan? oh, i didn't mean to say if you can. i should have said if you want too. thanks.

ghost, i don't know eather, that's why i'm asiking all you bright folks. except, in a democracy, the majority rules. after all, that's how bush how appointed last time, by a majority opinion of the suspreme court, right? so, democracy aint always right, right? gosh ghost, i'm just asking. help me understand, please.

monica, i'll take michigan plus 12! dan, obama may be over there tryin to help out, or do you think he and the fist lady is just having a spring vacation. neocon, you think i'm joe biden. well, i'm not. who is he?

gosh ghost, who/what is copote? i never heard of such a thing! please explain. thanks.....neocon, i don't understand why you call obama the messiah when you know that aint so. and you are a sinner for saying so, i bet you don't go to church and sunday school. and you probably drink on the lord's day to.

well, people, it's past my bedtime but i do want to say, i think SD, carol dunn and rahrah seem to be the wisest and smartest ones talking today, and the rest of y'all aint to smart. as a matter of fact i think the rest of y'all today are crazy as hell!

Probably not, Dan. Only a small chance of a MSU victory...that being if Ty Lawson stubs one of his wittle toes, and I imagine that Roy has him clothed in bubble wrap and wearing steel toes until just before tip-off.

I did, however, watch the game last night...at UNC, venturing out onto Franklin St. afterward to observe the typical Tarheel idiocy of leaping bonfires.

...and I'll add to this statement:

"an introspective examination of our past actions as a Nation and I don't believe that it's bad or wrong or unpatriotic to conclude that some of our actions that are accepted as "RIGHT" may in fact have been wrong"

this:
...nor is it bad or wrong or unpatriotic to admit said error as an error because introspective examination is no good if you can't say it.

sort of like...'Hi, my name is rahrah and I'm an addict.'

I mean, heck, many of you guys are always bemoaning the 'War on Poverty' and similar things. Criticizing our Nation for these past actions is no different than for the dropping of bombs that directly killed thousands of (innocent) people. You wouldn't think it wrong to criticize slavery or Jim Crow?

All of these are past actions of our country and if we can't admit them, or even talk about them, we'll make the same mistakes.

and I mean, (in)arguably, the deaths of thousands of innocents is something to be more concerned about than even the spending of billions or trillions of non-existent dollars, even if they were dirty, stinkin' Japs.

"This is a great example of 'with nothing of substance to say about the little messiah' .. "

Sorry, I thought we were talking about the Coalition of the Willing and American Security. My Mad

"How many times did Newt shut down the government before Clinton finally sent him a balanced budget and signed the "welfare to work" bill?"

Was that the same First Balanced Budget (submission only) since Jimmy Carter's Balanced Budget (submission only)?
Was that also the Last Balanced Budget Ever Submitted?
Just curious.

http://www.rules.house.gov/archives/98-844.pdf

At best, your statement "Clinton finally realized Newt was serious and decided to capitulate" is revisionist ... as id your claim "... he decided to send Newt a balanced budget was to decimate the Defense budget". Seems even Cheney was into it at the time.

http://www.defenselink.mil/specials/secdef_histories/bios/cheney.htm

No, YOU were talking about the Coalition of the Willing.

I was talking about the apologists who use the liberal catchall "Bush's mess" to explain away His ineptness. I tossed in the Ban Ki-moon comment as an example of your savior passing the buck on national security. It had absolutely nothing to do with US aid to Paaaakistaaan in 2001. That was your baby. (or straw man, I should say)

rahrah; the difference between the War on Poverty and dropping FM & LB is this: the bomb thing is over, it's done, there's nothing we can do to change it. The WOP, on the other hand, has only intensified since LBJ signed it in 64. It hasn't done much except to decimate the black family, vastly increase illegitimacy, and give us all the problems that come with that. We could do something about that, but the WOP is a war without an "exit strategy". Last I heard it was in the neighborhood of $14 trillion thrown down that particular rat hole. Now Teleprompter Jesus wants to throw that much more in behind it, but not take 45 years to do it. He'll piss away that much by the end of his first term. With the same glorious results, I'm sure. Any of you Obamaniacs care to bet on that?

Regarding truman:

http://www.linuxextremist.com/2006/07/10/dont-feed-the-trolls/

Thanks to roger for finding that site.

"I did, however, watch the game last night...at UNC, venturing out onto Franklin St. afterward to observe the typical Tarheel idiocy of leaping bonfires."

rahrah, tarheel idiocy? I was at the NCSU campus in '83 (when you were likely a twinkle in your mother's eye) after they won the NCAA tourney. People were getting naked and climbing trees, there were bonfires galore, some even flipped over a car. When I walked by I smelled gas I got the hell out of there before a cigarette butt met the gas. Fortunately that didn't happen.

It was fun, except the car flipping was out of line.

Dan,

I think you are feeding the trolls. Think about it.

Is there some kind of rule (besides N&R) on here that one must write a certain way, debate, comment a certain way?

Oh, just wanted to say. I'm sorry, but this letter is boring.

Other rules don't matter BA, it's the N&R's blog so they make the rules including:

You agree not to submit Content:

* that is unlawful, pornographic, defamatory, libelous, harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, or invasive of another’s privacy, or harms minors in any way;
* that harasses, degrades, intimidates or is hateful toward an individual or group of individuals on the basis of religion, gender, sexual orientation, race, ethnicity, age, or disability;

Of course that can be interpreted in a number of ways and historically they don't enforce their own rules.

"the difference between the War on Poverty and dropping FM & LB is this:"

mistakes are mistakes, whether ongoing or not. examining them, discussing them...can't be bad.

"hasn't done much except to decimate the black family, vastly increase illegitimacy, and give us all the problems that come with that"

the War on Poverty did these things exclusively? Prove it. I think there were and are a number of mitigating factors.

I also think that the 'War in Poverty' as originally defined is largely over. The welfare reform of the 90's more or less signaling the cease-fire.

"I wonder why Obama won the election by an electoral college landslide, and still enjoys a very high approval rating ..."

Why?

He fooled enough people like you into voting for him, and he continues to fool enough people (thanks to his Tank Team Media allies) into thinking he's "swell".

Based on his words and actions of the last 75 days, you should expect that to change pretty dramatically over the next several months.

Within that time period, even the alternately clued will begin to realize the huge trouble he's created for the nation.