I wrote last weekend about S2081, a bill that would ban those who are ordered by a court into psychiatric treatment from purchasing guns.
That debate hit the Senate floor today, after a big lobbying push by Grass Roots North Carolina, which opposes the bill. The bill didn't die, but it got a bit weaker today in the mind of its sponsors.
First, if you need background on the bill, click here to listen to its sponsor, Sen. Tony Rand, explain the thing.
Here's the run down on what happened next: the bill got three amendments. Two were fairly technical and there was pretty much no disagreement.
But Amendment #1 by Sen. Phil Berger of Rockingham changed the measure substantially. If you're a gun rights activist, you'd say it stopped an over-reach. Rand said it left a big loophole.
The debate centers on this: people in North Carolina can be ordered by a court into outpatient treatment. Gun rights folks, including Berger, said that if someone isn't committed to a hospital they're not dangerous to themselves or others.
Rand argued that court-ordered mental treatment is a pretty good indication that something is wrong enough with someone they shouldn't be buying a weapon.
Click here for Berger's opening salvo on the amendment.
And click here for Rand's answer.
There was more debate, but things eventually rolled back around to Berger, who answered back to Rand.
"I think throwing around the concept mentally ill in an effort to try to create an emotional fear with reference to what's going on here is a very easy thing to do. But mental illness can be a very broad term, and it doesn't necessarily deal with things that result in people acting in a dangerous manner. It doesn't," Berger said. Click here for more.
Of course, Rand had an answer, including: "I quite smoking. I probably had a nicotine disorder. The only thing I was dangerous too was a cigarette or a cigar ... Or I might be dangerous to a Twinkie, but not to any of you. But this is a deadly serious matter as we talk about someone who has a mental illness, they have to be found to have a mental illness and it has to rise to a point where action is taken by others to make sure they get treated."
Then things got wonky.
Sen. Doug Berger, no relation to Phil, one of the Senate's more liberal members, made a libertarian argument for adopting the amendment - saying that the state shouldn't infringe on a constitutional right. Click here to listen to the other Berger.
It went on like that for quite a while. Click here for the end of the amendment on the debate, which features Doug Berger and Tony Rand going at it pretty good.
The Senate voted to adopt the amendment 30-19.
Notable yes votes (local and otherwise): Stan Bingham of Davidson, U.S. Senate candidate Kay Hagan of Greensboro, Dan Clodfelter of Charlotte, David Hoyle of Gaston, and R.C. Soles of Tabor City.
Notable no votes: President Pro Tempore Marc Basnight, Katie Dorsett of Greensboro, and Treasurer candidate Janet Cowell and Lt. Gov. candidate Walter Dalton.
Click here for the full vote on the amendment.
The bill itself passed unanimously and it has crossed over to the House.
Reps. Pricey Harrison and Rick Glaizer are handling the bill on the House side. Harrison told me that she thought the House might make an effort to change the bill back. Look for action on that next week.
Update: Click here for a release AG Roy Cooper sent out on the day's action.
After the jump, AP's take on things.