Citizen Obama?
I've been writing an evergreen (a story without a hard and fast time peg that can be held in an editor's hip pocket until needed) on the Electoral College and was surprised to find an old rumor kicking about.
The Electoral College, for those who don't know, are the people in each state who get to cast those electoral votes for president. On Election Day, voters are really selecting electors rather than directly voting for president.
In interviews with an elector and Sec. of State Elaine Marshall I learned that questions about President-elect Barack Obama's citizenship are still being asked by some folks. And those people are not shy about voicing their opinions and saying that the Electoral College should not vote to confirm Obama as president because, they say, he's a foreigner.
If you want to get this argument in full, americamustknow.com is just chock full of lawsuits and other stuff. Basically, the idea is that Obama has not produced a valid birth certificate and was born overseas and whatever documents he has produced are forged or incomplete or whatever.
Personally, I think it's bunk. No, I have not left my post here in Raleigh and traveled to Hawaii to inspect the birth certificate myself. (Boss, if you want to send me, I'm game!) But some very credible folks have looked at this issue. They include:
- * FactCheck.org, a project of Annenberg Public Policy Center of the University of Pennsylvania. They write, "FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship. Claims that the document lacks a raised seal or a signature are false. We have posted high-resolution photographs of the document as "supporting documents" to this article. Our conclusion: Obama was born in the U.S.A. just as he has always said."
- * Politifact, which is a project of the CQ St. Petersburg Times family, sounds exasperated in its entry. "And you can’t help but ask: How do you prove something to people who come to the facts believing, out of fear or hatred or maybe just partisanship, that they’re being tricked?"
- * The Chicago Tribune, Obama's hometown newspaper, says the rumor was "debunked" in June.
- * Snopes, another myth debunking project, says the claims are "far fetched."
You get the point.
Of course, there's a logical argument to make here as well. With all the forces of opposing campaigns arrayed against him, with the federal government itself controlled by members of the other party, could Obama really have kept the lid on this? Could he have duped a pair of judges? Could he really have perpetrated a conspiracy so involved, vast and complex that has silenced every possible person in the food chain with direct evidence?
I guess it's possible, but it really strains credulity don't you think?
Still, electors can probably expect that their phones will keep ringing. And I guess now that I've written this post, mine will to. But at a certain point, doesn't the burden of proof shift to those accusing Obama of malfeasance to prove what he has submitted isn't right?
For more on North Carolina's Electoral College process, click here.
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Stupidity never goes out of style.
Posted on November 22, 2008 10:44 AM
Is asking at which hospital and which doctor delivered him just a stupid question also?
Posted on November 22, 2008 10:57 AM
Actually, yes. There'd be no point in asking if there wasn't a belief that the man isn't an American citizen. And continuing to believe things that have been shown quite clearly not to be true doesn't exactly inspire confidence in the asker's intelligence or common sense. But by all means, the askers should go ahead and believe (and ask) what they will. It's entertaining for the rest of us.
Posted on November 22, 2008 11:34 AM
Don't take this as sucking up. Just appreciation.
Posted on November 22, 2008 12:42 PM
Those right wing kooks never stop do they?...wanting to adhere to the Constitution and all that stupid stuff.
Grandma must have been part of the conspiracy.
Regardless of where he was born, it's fun to watch the lefties grunt and roll their eyes.
Now tell me again, just due to my own lack of knowledge on this issue, which hospital was the president-elect born in?
Posted on November 22, 2008 12:59 PM
...just funnin' with ya.
Posted on November 22, 2008 1:20 PM
Only if you can tell me the name of the home planet of the aliens who landed in Roswell.
Posted on November 22, 2008 1:24 PM
Yep, me too.
Besides, I certainly don't mind if people investigate Obama's citizenship. Gives 'em something to do.
Posted on November 22, 2008 1:26 PM
Hey everyone, thanks for stopping in.
James, thanks for the nice shout out.
Andrew and Tony: funnin' is allowed as long as no one loses and eye.
Posted on November 22, 2008 9:25 PM
Personally, I think it's bunk. No, I have not left my post here in Raleigh and traveled to Hawaii to inspect the birth certificate myself. (Boss, if you want to send me, I'm game!) But some very credible folks have looked at this issue. They include* Mark
We have arranged a paid trip to Hawaii with a expert to settle the issue. His name is Joe The Plumber and his top researcher is Governor Sara Palin of Alaska. As a confirmed conspiracy theory expert. I am appalled that the Right wing religious Republicans have become Taliban myth promoters and trying to make conspiracy theorist experts like me look bad.......I can assured you that Governor Palin and Joe The Plumber were the mistake of a Alien Lizared research project that went terrible wrong.
ps......Obama knows who murder JFK and those retarded Republicans will do anything to discredited him when he takes office.
Posted on November 26, 2008 8:47 PM