The Senate gave tentative approval to H2, which is now a smoking ban for bars and restaurants, earlier today. Click here to catch up on the news.
For those who weren't able to listen to the debate, I have some audio clips.
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Sen. William Purcell, the chief proponent on the Senate side, started off the debate with the understatement of the day.
"This bill has gone through a lot of compromise and changes from where it started," Purcell said. Ya think?
What started as a "workplace smoking ban" aimed at protecting all workers is now something much different.
"The purpose of the bill is to prevent exposure to second hand smoke for patrons and workers at bars and restaurants at bars and workers in North Carolina," Purcell said.
Purcell, a Democrat and chair of the Health Committee, had tried to move a very strict smoking ban to the floor but quickly found that the broad measure didn't have enough support to pass. And, say supporters, it's more of a ban than we have now.
Click here to hear Purcell make the argument for the bill in its current form.
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Sen. Jim Jacumin, a Connelly Springs Republican, offered an amendment to gut the bill further. It would have restored a provision, passed by the House, that would let bars exempt themselves if they didn't hire or serve anyone under the age of 18.
I have it on good authority from two different sources that at least one or two senators who voted against the final bill, and who probably would have liked the amendment, voted against it because the Jacumin's argument was so, well...bad.
Not only did he provide as reprise of his solution to pollution is dilution line, arguing that second hand smoke wasn't all THAT bad, he provided this gem:
"In studies just recently by Vanderbilt University...a smoker costs the taxpayers. A non-smoking costs the taxpayers $417,000. Smokers give the taxpayers a $91,000 bargain - not the right way, of course, but they do."
Right. Because if you smoke and get a disease and it kills you, you're not a strain in the entitlement system. (Coming next week, a bill to require all those with chronic diseases to take up bear wrestling, sky diving and live porcupine swallowing.)
Click here to listen to Jacumin's remarks.
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Sen. Phil Berger, a Republican of Eden, tried to jump in and save Jacumin's amendment.
"What this amendment does is says that the bar owner, the restaurant owner, the owner of the property can make a decision as to whether or not they want to allow smoking on their premises. It gives the individual patron the right to choose to go to that establishment or not go to that establishment. It says that the people of the state of North Carolina are intelligent enough to make decisions for themselves about these kinds of things."
Berger gets props for fighting through what sounded like a nasty cold. But the amendment still failed.
Click here to listen to Berger's remarks.
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Sen. David Weinstein may have earned a spot as the Senate's resident feminist scholar today (end sarcasm) with this exchange:
Weinstein: And Mr. President, if I may, I would like to see if Sen. Tillman would yield to a question.
Lt. Gov. Dalton: Sen. Tillman do you yield for a question?
Tillman: I will.
Dalton: He yields.
Weinstein: Sen. Tillman, is it true, that a woman is only a woman, but a good cigar is a smoke?
Dalton: You don't have to answer that Sen. Tillman. We're going to let Kipling answer that in appropriate time.
Tillman: I'd give you a Tony Rand answer, but that wouldn't work either.
Weinstein: Well, it is true to me and I'll tell you this. I rest my case with that statement and I'm going to have to vote no on this bill.
All due respect to Sen. Weinstein and Rudyard Kipling, I’m pretty sure that if you don’t enjoy the company of a fine lady (yes, dear wife, I mean you) more than fine cigar, you’re going about it all wrong.
Click here to listen to that exchange.
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Sen. Doug Berger (no relation to Phil, that I know of) said he would vote against the bill because of his father.
"My daddy worked hard, but he also played hard. He wasn't a member of the country club. In the country club, folks are going to be able to smoke. He went down, Sen. Rucho, to the 'Little Brown Jug' after he did a hard days work. When this bill passes, he wouldn't be able to smoke there, while the folks who were over there in the bank, and they go to the country club up there in Johnston County, they'll be able to able to smoke and I just don't think that's right."
Click here to listen to Berger's thoughts.
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After all the arguments against, supporters of the bill piped up. Among those, was Sen. Tony Foriest of Graham:
"This is absolutely amazing to me that we're having this kind of conversation because to me, it seems, that we have an opportunity to absolutely make a difference ... We have the opportunity to send a message certainly to the people that we're around and to the next generation coming up...I'm a little bit disappointed that we're debating this for so long, because this is something we need to do."
Click here to listen to Foriest.
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