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Why are there no students, teachers, or administrators from either HP Central or Andrews on this panel? Folks at these two schools are definitely on the front-line.

Or better yet why is Dot Kearns not on this panel with her contrarian point of view. I am sure that everyone who has been assaulted in these two High Point schools feel much better knowing that according to Commrade Kearns it is the environment around the child that is the problem.

I am glad to see that you have two representatives on the panel who promised a "world class program" for all of the citizens of High Point with the HP Choice Plan. If the goal was to model these schools after city of Fallujah then we are well on our way.

Interestingly today - HPE Headlines - sorry Bruce, didn't see in N & R yet:

POLICE CHARGE 7 STUDENTS (ANDREWS HS)
Assistant Principal was hurt and is seeing a doctor.

This makes four principals/asst principals this year.

What is the record they are going for before something is done?

Wonder what Dell Computers thinks of Guilford County Schools?

Sorry had to run before, now for the rest of my 2 cents.....

Tators has a great point. Why aren't principals, teachers and administrators of schools who have had a high number of fights and also attacks on their principals on these panels? These are the folks involved in this every day first hand.

Before the elections, the Rhino ran an article about 17 arrests at Andrews High School. TWO DAYS before that article hit the papers, I sat in a Community in Dialogue Education meeting where Dot Kearns stated there were no longer any problems at Andrews. I then e-mailed her and asked her as an "at-large" school board member was she: a) not aware of the problems at Andrews? or b) did not think 17 arrests were a problem?

At that same meeting, she also stated that the 9th graders were separated from the rest of the school (which I think would be great at all our high schools). This was after I brought up the fact that Andrews had received thousands of dollars from the High Point Foundation in Jan. 04 to take care of the "relations problems". Money was used for "Win-Win Solutions". Other schools did not receive this money. Now after reading today's news of "Police Charge 7 Students" it seems like money (or lack thereof, as the School Baord always pleads)is NOT THE answer.

Also on the Guilford County Schools television channel there is a taped meeting after the HP "choice plan" tours where several school board members are commenting. They state they saw no problems at Andrews and one student states how great the technology was. Does anyone out there think there are going to be fights on the day that school board members are visiting any school for 30 minutes or so?? Don't you think students know when these visitors are coming and are told to be at their best?

After reading today's similar article on the N & R website, it seems like one of the students was trespassing and should not have even been on campus. The most ridiculous comment I heard in today's story was by Mr. Wittmann, Principal,"We're talking about a lunch period with 300 kids in the cafeteria and court yard," Wittmann said. "The fights are going to happen".
(Does this happen in Northern Virginia were he came from?)

What does this have to do with anything?? This is NO EXCUSE. Other schools in Guilford County have that many kids and then some and they don't have all these problems.

Now for a little nostalgia and a sheer coincidence. Last night while I was looking through a pile of junk and papers for a Christmas photo, I found this editorial dated April 12, 2003: "Changes worth try at troubled Andrews"
The editorial stated: "Among the changes being considered: requiring students and staff to wear photo ID badges, banning NON Andrews students from school events and prohibiting students from leaving campus during lunch. None are unreasonable." It ends by saying: "But first things first. Teachers cannot teach and students cannot learn if behavior gets out of hand." (HOW TRUE!)

I remember reading in the papers last year that Dr. Grier was putting a zero tolerance policy for fighting into effect? What has happened to that policy? I had heard that some people at Andrews last year weren't happy about it, but it was starting to make a difference.

Why aren't all school personnel at ALL schools wearing photo ID's? I have been writing the school board about this for weeks. What is taking so long for this simple procedure? (My reason was for the janitorial temps who are not wearing ID's and may not have had background checks and are around young children. Some had been let go.)

Ironically, next to the 4/12/03 editorial was a Letter to the Editor titled "Respectfuly students make school safer" And I quote, "Many fights happen because the students don't have any respect and will do whatever they feel like doing. Not every school has enforced the rules like others. One school that has had numerous fights said they were "changing things" When I heard what those 'things' were I laughed."......

"They said the students weren't allowed to use cell phones during school or they could no longer wear hats or anything covering their heads. I couldn't believe they were allowed to do these things in the first place......" (The writer was a senior at Southeast Guilford High School.)

Why are some rules being enforced at some high schools and not others?

In my opinon, the violence and the attacks on school personnel is only going to get worse if these problems are not acknowledged and dealt with. You cannot keep hiding them. If principals and teachers continue to get attacked, you are only empowering these kids to do it again. Where will we find any teachers who want to teach in these schools if they are not safe? If things continue on this path, then students could eventually op out because of NCLB for schools that are deemed violent; thus leaving other kids "behind".

I will be working on my list of questions for the forum. It is growing. In the meantime, I do hope you will get some true representatives on the panel who have experienced this violence.

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