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Third proposal emerges for High Point

At its meeting Tuesday, the Guilford school board will look at a third proposal for potential redistricting in High Point. It is the first to include Ragsdale High School in the mix.

If any of the plans are approved, it would herald the dismantling of the controversial reassignment plan now in its second year. The reassignment plan now in place shuffles students from Andrews, Central and Southwest high schools via a computerized lottery, with each school given an academic theme to attract students.

Read the News & Record Monday for a story on this latest proposal and how it compares to the previous two. There also will be a map showing what areas would be affected.

You also can see the proposal on the school board's agenda.

Other items to be discussed Tuesday include:
* A proposal to place classroom trailers on a site at Chestnut Street in High Point to create a SCALE alternative school for students in that area. Currently, students across the district who are long-term suspended travel to Greensboro to take classes at SCALE. Here's the cost analysis that will be presented Tuesday.
* Construction contracts for Peck, Morehead and Peeler elementary schools
* A proposal to shift $300,000 from construction projects at 12 schools to complete renovation work at McLeansville Elementary. This money is available "due to favorable bids, untapped contingencies and/or sales tax refunds," according to the request on the agenda.
*An update on class sizes throughout the district
*An update on SAT scores

The board meets at 5:30 p.m. at its Eugene Street offices in Greensboro.

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debora said:

Can anyone remind me about Scale school that was in HP. I thought that about 4-5 years ago they put up some trailers etc, with fence and then just about 1.5 years ago voted to close it and send everyone to Pisgah Church site. I don't agree with bussing kids that far for any reason, but why did they close the first one? Just get a plan and stick with it!!!!

cheryl said:

yup, debora, you are right about the previous scale school in HP. i believe that in 2003 our "board of education" spent about a quarter of a million dollars on its construction. in 2004, they spent about the same amount again to dismantle the facility and bus students all the way to the other side of GSO. now, they plan to spend another half million dollars plus to build it again. go figure. I can get exact figures if you need them.
basically, its just another $750,000 down the gcs toilet.
speaking of......never found out how GCS decided to "re-allocate" all that $2.1 million they had planned to spend on teachers assistants. a good portion of it, close to half i think, went to athletics. but never found out where other $1.1 million was spent. hopefully it will be spent wisely.
by the way, anyone know how many students in the HP choice plan were granted their appeals and were re-assigned back to swhs? heard it was 75% of them.

debora said:

Of the TA money; $500,000 went to supplement teachers salaries ($1,500.000 total); each middle school got $3500 for athletics; each HS got $10,000-- I think that adds up to about the total.

The plan in paper today is interesting. No numbers on how many students this would be per school; but again, we are wasting money to bus children when we should be just fixing the schools! I think that Andrews could be a great "weaver" type of school with a small attendance zone. I would also make the technology dept a tru magnet school-- of course no one aske me :)

Barbara Ann said:

Deb,

I think the initial reason to tear down the trailers was to have all the kids in one location and not have trailers spread out in various places. However, with the long bus ride, the kids did not actually start "school" at normal times; it was late morning.

You and Cheryl are right. Why didn't they find one location in High Point to begin with? Go figure.

I do think Providence Place will be an excellent choice. Now for the cost of the extra trailers.....Maybe the GCS admin and SB are finally realizing that we need kids who cannot function in a traditional classroom setting or choose not to function in a traditional classroom setting, in a real alternative school. Maybe they are FINALLY acknowledging that the numbers are great and that a lot of space must be provided. Maybe they are finally realizing that kids who want to learn and are frustrated by the disruptions should have their right to learn too.

Let's hope so.

Barbara Ann said:

Just read my morning N & R and saw the latest "map".

Now the area from SW to Ragsdale makes sense, but what sense does it make to have the folks from Ragsdale in Adams Farm go PAST the newly proposed "from SW to Ragsdale" area to get to SWH and also sending MORE students to SW than away from? Guess the Adams Farm parents will come out now to speak; another group of parents p.o.'ed; another public forum meeting to add.

When will a true proposal that will make common sense for all come out?

Deb you are right - Andrews would make a great Weaver with a true magnet and they should have a surrounding attendance zone. They could possibly include some of the neighborhoods off Kivett to make the zone a little bigger. By keeping a small neighborhood attendance zone, this would keep their sports program intact. (of course, no one asked me either)

Barbara Ann said:

Cheryl,

Regarding the number of appeals. I had heard too the number of appeals granted were high. Also I had a neighbor who got their appeal but then in the end chose Central because the electives were so limited in the art strand at SW and he would have been locked into certain electives based on his appeal reason.

I know Bruce has asked for these figures several times and hasn't been able to get them yet. Maybe that is why they are being so tight lipped about it? Too many appeals granted; thus why the purpose of the HP Plan? Maybe by granting so many appeals this in essence undid the plan this year on a case by case basis. Maybe after hearing appeal after appeal, they realized how futile the plan was to begin with and don't want to spend their summers year after year listening to appeals?

Doesn't the information have to be released under the Freedom of Information Act?

bruce buchanan said:

Yes it does, Barbara Ann. At least that's our contention.

I have no idea why we haven't been able to get this information. We have requested this information about six different times by my count, most recently last week.

Barbara Ann said:

Bruce,

Thank you so much for your persistance. Could if have to do with so many of the Central Office folks leaving and the shift in personnel?

We appreciate all you do.

Barbara Ann

Mikeg said:

Barbara,

I don't beleive it. Our appeal was denied even though our daughter had an interest in broadcast journalism, and had worked on the middle school show for 3 years. Sounded like a perfectly reasonable appeal basis to me. I would love to know why some were granted and others not. Guess that is on a need to keep quite basis.

bruce buchanan said:

I honestly don't know what the reason is. But I would think this is a relatively simple request - I'm sure it's information that they would want and have.

Mikeg said:

Barbara,

I don't beleive it. Our appeal was denied even though our daughter had an interest in broadcast journalism, and had worked on the middle school show for 3 years. Sounded like a perfectly reasonable appeal basis to me. I would love to know why some were granted and others not. Guess that is on a need to keep quiet basis

Barbara Ann said:

Mike,

You know how rumors fly. I did hear of a lot of folks personally who got their appeals for various reasons. Others have friends who got their appeals too. I have no idea what their criteria was used. Also I guess it would depend largely on which particular SB members heard different individual appeals, if they were pro or con for the Choice Plan. It could be a very subjective process with the deck stacked in the GCS's favor how they want it to turn out. (So what else is new here.)

That is why GCS needs to come clean and publicly state the figures. As Bruce said, it is Freedom of Information so why is it taking so long?

I would think they have known these numbers since late July so what is the big secret?

reassigned said:

What kind of idiots do they have coming up with these suggestions?
Its unbelieveable!

Buckmtn said:

Glad to have you back General.

You see once you have Ragsdale in the mix it is easy to have Smith in the mix, and Western Guilford, and so on, and so on, and so on.

norma ray said:


This will never be fixed!! The school board is more concerned about the social economic make up of schools than how to fix the REAL problems.

These problems will never go away as long as we have kids who behave badly and perform below grade level due to lack of parenting and kids who achieve due to good parenting. The trends are very clear; let's educate everyone the same way. Everyone needs to take AP classes regardless whether they are capable or not.

I give up!!!

cheryl said:

speaking of lawsuits.....
chairman duncan made the following statement in an august board meeting concerning a seattle, washington schools lawsuit, "in that case the court explicitly upheld that race could be considered as part of the redistricting plan."
when an attorney involved in that case was contacted about chairman duncan's statement, he replied, "Still no decision in the case...The statement you report about the case is wrong however."

ScottB said:

I don't understand the latest plan either, maybe it's to include Ragsdale in the mix for the "Weaver" type school. Why hasn't anyone considered splitting the County in half? The western half of high schools (Northwest, Western, Central, Andrews, Southwest, Ragsdale, Southern) could feed to Andrews magnet and the eastern half could go to Weaver. This with a small home area would fill Andrews. What numbskulls would create a technical magnet with only three or four schools?

I live in the Guilford College Road corridor and would personally love for my kids to attend Ragsdale, the closest school to my home. If the "No Choice" plans stays, I go Northwest.

As for the SCALE school, why not use current open space at Central or Andrews instead of putting these kids in trailers?

debora said:

ScootB,
I think the idea is to split Weaver attendance (not sure which schools) and let half go to Weaver and half to Andrews. I think that the technology magnet would just be a part of that idea.

I agree, we all just want our kids in neighborhood schools. With gas at all time highs this must be a consideration.

on another front, Jill (GCS attorney) said that nothing had been decided in Washington, that the 4th district law was still the one to consider.

Norman said:

59 to Central.
361 to Ragsdale.
This total of 420 would normally go to SW right?
Then take 415 from Ragsdale and send them to SW.
Almost the same totals.

A couple of things come to mind here.

1) They are totally stupid because there is no benefit to anybody or.
2)They are proposing suggestions that are so stupid that they know nobody in their right minds would ever accept.The ultimate objective here would be being able to say "we tried" and since we cannot get an agreement we are going to do what "we" want. Can they be that cunning?
By the way, if it is the first then the proposers should be fired. They almost certainly would not get a job in the real world!

Barbara Ann said:

Cheryl,

Thank you for publishing the statement that the actual attorney who is involved in the Seattle case stated. I received a copy of an email he had sent a friend of mine. This case is far from settled.

Norman,

I think you are on to something about the ultimate objective to say "we are tired" - throw a bunch of proposals - equally bad - out there that will never work and blame us for not accepting. Blame "the parents".

My question is this: Why not scrap the "choice" plan and keep the lines how they were BCP - BEFORE CHOICE PLAN? - Make the classrooms smaller at Andrews; make it a true magnet/Weaver School; keep a small attendance zone near the school; remove any problems to Alternative Schools and forget about socioeconomic and EDUCATE ALL the children in their nieghborhood schools at their own ability levels??

There are no new buildings going up now in HP for a school building except the proposed Alternative School so why is the OBSESSION on getting the numbers right in HP? Never mind, we all have known why.

forkedbyGCSB said:

On the positive side its a nice map though.

Forked (again).

Hugh said:

I wonder if Eric Hoekstra drinks? If he didn't before, he surely does now. I would love to see any real maps if he were actually allowed to put his 2 cents in. It's obvious that he's paid to do exactly as he's told.

An untrained chimpanzee could draw lines that made more sense.

Nothing personal Mr. Hoekstra, I'm aware of who you report to, I totally understand the situation that you're in.

Don't worry though, at least you'll never be asked to redraw lines over near Page, Grimsley, Dudley, Smith....Just screw High Point and Jamestown, is that all it says in your job description?

DaveT said:

The worst thing is we will have to listen the the school board debate this third proposal.
Will anyone of them have the balls to say "what the hell is this"?
Probabably not..
I shall at least E-mail them to remind them of their responsabilities.
One note is that in the NW area it has been a simple logical proposal. Why can not one of the HP proposals be the same?

Theresa said:

yes I think Eric is partaking in the Koolaid with the rest of them. His batch may be extra potent to put up with this nonsense. I couldn't blame him.

Dave T, good question. If there was ever a logical proposal for HP like NW we couldn't have the HP choice plan. We couldn't have equally lame proposals that might make the Choice Plan actually look appealing to some. They couldn't get everyone's feathers all ruffled. Tune in next week and see what the next proposal will be. This is number 3 (4 counting keeping the choice plan) How many will there be to comment on?

The answer to that million dollar question is we don't have a rep like Darlene.

tim mann said:

Ask a friend, check your e-mail .... meeting for North High Point and Jamestown residents at our favorite Meeting place
Thursday night @ 7 PM

debora said:

What makes you guys think the NW plan is logical? The current plan takes 558 from NW with growth of 175 per year, by the time that the new school has 4 grades NW will still be at about 2300 + which is 700 OVER capacity. It takes 400+ from NE, currently about 500 over capacity but has 300 new seats on this bond, so they will only be about 200 over capacity! The kids fron the Eastern area are 1.7 miles from Page, They leave out the eastern side of Church street for middle school and send them to NE (1.5 miles to the new Northern) and take kids 10 miles away! I thought you guys in HP were supported neighborhood schools. Bussing for diversity is happening here also. You guys have now had three maps, but we have only seen one for our area.

I have supported you efforts and tried to stay aware of your issues, the least you could do is to study our area before you make comments.

Barbara Ann said:

Deb,

Sorry, you are correct. I think what Dave T. meant is you have one proposal. You can organize around that, address it and come up with some sensible alternatives. You have one issue to study and look at. And you have Darlene on your side which is truly a bonus. Where is our representation?

What is crazy with HP is that four proposals including the HP "Choice" Plan to stay are now on the table. Yes, Deb, we have had three "maps" if you can call them that. They could do 7 maps and still just make up stuff that the parents won't like on purpose; create a lot of confusion in many different neighborhoods and they could say "we gave you 7 other choices, you didn't like any of them; so you might as well keep the lottery plan". Three bad maps are 3 times as bad as one bad map. When has this ever, ever been done? It makes no sense. Now I guess they will need another "forum" for the Adams Farm/Ragsdale parents. They can keep bringing out their colored crayons from now until the cows come home but it doesn't mean any of the maps are workable or even have a purpose. By moving all the kids here and there does it serve their best interest to educate them?

Remember Craven Elem, one proposal at a time - shot down one at a time and Amos said why can't you bring a few alternatives at once. Maybe this is "their plan", but I seriously doubt it.

Thank you for sharing the figures on NW. As usual, NW is not getting much bang for their bucks out of the bond monies as promised. You have gone without for a long, long time. I have been to your school for soccer games. The logistics in parking alone is a true nightmare. With kids going 10 miles from Eastern to your school, this is definitely crosstown busing. Why don't these kids go to Page? Has that question ever been addressed and/or answered?

In conclusion, we do support neighborhood schools. We do support you and appreciate all of your efforts, especially for always going to the board meetings and speaking up of various issues.

In know the teachers are very excited about the efforts of the Northwest Alliance in supporting the TA's.

Thank you for staying involved.

Stormy said:

debora,

You are correct about the lack of focus by many upon what is passing under the radar in the Northwest part of the county. Unfortunately, the mess in High Point has absorbed much of the public's attention on the machinations of the BOE. The same thing is taking place all over the county, but most parents and citizens in Greensboro and the county aren't cognizant of it. Please continue to bring what is happening there to the attention of everyone. It's the same sad strategy that is being used on High Point, and it has nothing to do with the education of the children of the county. the question is "What is the BOE using our $1/2 billion per year on?". From the results realized in every testing, AYP, ABC, SAT, it's not about furthering education of students. What is it about, then?

Rainy said:

It is about getting around NCLB, plain and simple.

DaveT said:

Debra,
no offence meant. Didnt know there was a problem in that area. Had not even heard.
Maybe I will be wrong again here but if the affected people would be more active then there would be more pressure on the board to give everybody neighborhood schools.
There is a meeting tomorrow. More people would be welcome! Lets fight it together!
But let me assure you I would rather be in an overcrowded NW than being forced to attend Andrews.(I live close to SW!)
Sorry in advance for any offence this time.

norman said:

After watching the discusion on redistricting this evening it is obvious that the school board is in complete disarray.
A total lack of leadership!
I believe that there is a no clarity given to Forest Grier by the board and a total lack of initative by Forest himself.
I cannot make out if Forest is doing that intentionally or if he is plain dumb.
It is clear though that the board need to cry "run Forest run"!!
Do I have the feeling that some of them are being a little tougher on him these days.

Barbara Ann said:

Watched most of the SB meeting tonight.

The Sea of Red looked great.

Note to all on HP redistricting:

Latest proposal including Ragsdale/Adams Farm going past corridor to SW was scrapped tonight.
1 down; 3 to go. They debating cancelling the redistricting forums because of a new "map" requested but they are still on.

Anita proposed a huge job for Eric. So common sense. A redistricting map of the entire county with TRUE neighborhood schools. Way to go Anita!

Amos seconded the motion just to see how it would look. It will include before and after figures on FRL and the difference in bus times before and after for longest rides; cost of gas; drivers, etc.

This ought to be good. Eric H said last time it took two years. He hopes have this one ready by the end of 2005. Now this will be worth the weight.

We could still be at this by next year folks.

Barbara Ann said:

Yes I meant to say "worth the weight" - worth it's weight in gold if we could take this common sense approach and worth the wait.

Cloudy said:

Norman,

"total lack of leadership......" It seems like total lack of anyone in agreement.

and it sure did seem that a few of the school board members took control and was very clear when they spoke to T. Grier.

debora said:

This was a great meeting. It is always good to see alot of people speak! To bad that most of us wait until we are mad; get involved and stay involved has been my message to my Northern neighbors.

I think that the BOE is embarrassed (rightly so) that every measurable test has us staying even or going down over the last few years. The 106 page document (online at GCSNC.org) redundtly reported on by Dr. ??? (sorry can't remember his name) showed that we are just barely holding level-forget budget cuts! We aren't using what we have effeciently. I would gladly give up our TA's if the impacted schools were showing any benefit from smaller classrooms; but they aren't!

My take on this is; higher standards within the classroom, no more social promotion- learn the material or come back next year. Somehow, someway get the parents involved and to accept some responsibility--GCS cannot change society as a whole so do the best within each school. The children deserve it!

Stormy said:

debora,

There is one other barrier to making progress here as well. Discipline has to be enforced in the classroom. Until that is done, teachers wil never be able to focus upon "teaching". You need to get the troublemakers out of the classroom, one way or the other. This is a national problem, and it is really accentuated here in GCS. Principals and Administrators are not willing to deal with problem students, and they leave them in classrooms for teachers to deal with, even after committing serious offenses. This impacts the learning process of all the other students. They know this, but they don't know how to deal with it or don't want to deal with it. Until this happens, only incremental progress wil be made in classrooms.

The board and Grier cover-up all of this ineptitude by saying that they owe the opportunity to those students to get an education. Of course, they ignore the impact that it has on theother students, who really want to get an education.

debora said:

Dear Stormy!
Agreed 100 percent
debora

Barbara Ann said:

Stormy and Deb - true on all counts.

The problem of getting problem kids out of the classroom is much more complicated that what appears on the surface. It goes beyond GCS. I was watching the Senators' Supreme Court hearings yesterday. One of the senators talked about how currently in the public schools it is very hard to get a kid out; he must have hearing; he has rights, etc. etc. It is a due process.

Yes, all children do have rights BUT has the pendulum swung too far the other way?

The main issue is public safety. Safe schools; safe buses; safe bus rides; safe bus stops; safe school playgrounds; principals, teachers and students feeling safe.

Note there is an article in today's HPE about another local school district who will now have ZERO TOLERANCE for bullying. Maybe GCS should follow this lead.

It needs to start somewhere. Note the recent stabbing at the Grimsley bus stop. This was not the school's fault. This is a problem of society but these problems are spilling over into our schools. They need to be addressed and dealt with; not hidden.

I do hope the SB will strongly pursue getting the Alternative School in HP and the sooner the better.

I am hoping we can get cameras on our buses. Cameras will not lie as to "who done it".

Cloudy said:

I don't think we need to pay $122,000 for someone to tell us our schools are failing. Anyone could tell them children watch too much TV and don't do their homework. Also it is not an excuse that other children are out to dinner, sports and spending money, so other poor kids only have TV.

All children can get library books at school or in libraries. All parents can turn off the TV. Children can interact by playing educational baord games. Throw a way the video games.

The charts that were presented could not be read from one's living room. Also Dr. ? was very hard to understand.

Stormy said:

Barbara Ann,

I, too, heard the senator's remarks about the discpline problem. But, I see the legal issue as more of an excuse, rather than a reason. Sure, any person, including a student, is entitled to due process before being punished, but that right doesn't excuse administrators from bailing out on their responsibilities to maintain order and a safe environment in the schools. The administrators just find it easier to send the offending students back into the classroom and let the teacher deal with it. The administrator can pass the buck downward. What do they care what impact it has on the education of the other students? They'll just say that they don't have enough education dollars, and if the taxpayers would give them more, then they could solve these problems.

Read the article in today's News-Record, page A-4, U.S. rankings in education losing ground". Simply, we spend the most on average per student in the world, and we are getting increasingly less student achievement and graduation rates as a result. A wonderful quote from that article by Ray Simon, Deputy Education Secretary "We're just not letting down too many of our students; we're also not giving our taxpayers the best return on their investments". In other words, we aren't using the education dollars currently going to the public schools in an efficient manner, so until that changes, why give them any more? This is a countrywide problem, but it is also reality in Guilford County.

Joe Stafford said:

I do not understand why the Board takes more than one redistricting proposal to hearings. It seems to me they should pass their best efforts and let the community comment on it. After receiving comments they can then elect to make further changes if they are warranted. Pls someone tell why we have such an inefficient procedure?

Joe said:

Joe,
Surely you jest! GCS ineffecient! I can't hardly stand it. What bothers me is that lack of common sense! We waste hour after hour going around in circles, with no direction. The board doesnt seem to have a clear idea of where they think we should go- so they follow every idea, every new vision with no end target in sight.

bruce buchanan said:

I'm certainly not going to argue that the school board is the model of efficiency.

But if the board did as you suggest - create one polished redistricting plan, then bring it before the public for comment - wouldn't they be slammed for keeping things behind closed doors without adequate community input?

Say what you will about the current round of redistricting, but at least the board is having this discussion in public. That means we get to see rough drafts, false starts and unfinished ideas. It's a messy, slow process to be sure, but one where the public can weigh in every step of the way.

Just something to think about.

norma ray said:

As a former elementary school teacher, I can tell you the behavior problems have gotten worse. And, as Stormy stated, it is accentuated in this county.

I taught in another state where the state spent $4000.00 per student,and we even managed to help the ESL students with that amount. This was an area that experienced 30 percent growth rate a year! New schools were built simultaneously
as sub-divisions were going up. And builders were required to pay impact fees or donote land. And the kicker is my taxes were half of what they are in Guilford County. This leads me to the follow:

Why doesn't the city charge builders impact fees and built new schools in the growth areas?

Why is the amount we pay per student not enough?

Why does the school board continue to be concerned with political correctness regarding on-going behavior problems? Why don't they provide REAL alternatives for these types of students?

Why can't they draw natural bounderies?

All the money in the world is not going to solve any of this until our elected officials start managing the growth in this county.

debora said:

I don't know why Joe's name is on my post about common sense, but it was mine!

Barbara Ann said:

Stormy,

I did not say I agree with the senator's comments or the way this country is heading. I am only saying that the issue goes higher up than GCS. I am just saying it is not simply cut and dry.

And yes, that is no excuse to not have control and discipline in our schools.

These are public schools and it is a matter of public safety for ALL students. We need preventative methods: cameras and kids and parents knowing the rules and what the consequences are. The consequences should be the same for all students and there does need to be consequences.

As far as suspending, many kids would enjoy that -a day of no school. We really do need alternatives that will work and keep our schools safe for all. We really do need that Alternative School in High Point too.

Barbara Ann said:

Norma Ray,

Deena did have one good suggestion last night and Anita and I had spoken about this a long time ago. That is to have the new developments go to the schools where there is room. That way there will be no surprises to the newcomers and the realtors will just have to tell the truth that the school near them is FULL. I definitely agree on impact fees. I have been writing them about this for several years now. It must get down to city vs county and the builders being in "control" and the local politics here. (and we all know about that!) Other areas where I lived have them too, so why not here?

Bruce,

I heard Alan say at the meeting several weeks ago that by "statute" they must have forums. (So they are following the laws.) Also it is a good idea. The question is: Do they listen? Remember 800 plus parents at SWH before the vote on Black Tuesday and tons and tons of hours of research. Now maybe some are finally listening after the plan is failing. Yes, I know you will say Jan. 2003 Smith Stadium they listened but now after almost 2 years the lottery is still here. And Bruce, you are right it is a l o n g drawn out process.

Joe,

They did used to do one proposal at a time. One group would get upset then they would pick on the next neighborhood. I guess they want to throw a bunch of proposals out there; get comments and test the waters and get a bunch of folks confused and upset at one time and get it over with? The problem now is this and the school board said this last night "people are now confused". There are so many proposals out there they don't know what is what or what goes with what.

My friend thought the latest one that was scrapped last night with the 250 attendance zone for Andrews was part of one a few weeks ago in the Oak Hollow/Andrews & SWH swap. The person didn't know it was a "new" separate one.

People are currently confused. And what if someone gets involved later. I agree that one proposal out there at a time does seem easier; or at least explain each one better and publicize more.

The problem is if you throw out 5 equally bad choices, for example, which one do you pick? If someone says "cut off your left arm or your right, you choose. Then - ah ha - YOU made the choice,not us. We gave you 'choices'." Do you get my drift.

Just confuse everyone and see what happens. It seems to me from watching the meeting last night that each board member has a different idea and they are confused too.

Barbara Ann said:

p.s.

on the maps....

Poor Eric H. He probably goes home and dreams every night of maps smothering him....

Stormy said:

The following is the text of an common sense editorial that appeared today in the HPE written by a teacher in High Point. Perhaps, the BOE could come to its senses and consider the value that neighborhood schools once had and could still have? Are you listening BOE?????

Lessons Learned: In a simpler day, we had neighborhood schools

By: Paula Williams 09/15/2005

Life (and school) seemed so much simpler when I was an elementary school student last century. My family lived within blocks of Kirkman Park Elementary School when I began first grade (there was no public school kindergarten back then), and I enjoyed walking to and from school each day.

I thought I was "big stuff" since my mother was home with my younger brother and sister and I, the big 6-year-old that I was, had the responsibility for making both a prompt appearance at school each morning and a prompt return each afternoon. Mom waited by the front door without fear, trusting that the world was safe enough for her oldest to make the short walk alone.

We moved to the Oakview community during the summer before I began fourth grade, and Oakview Elementary became my new school. Again, we lived within blocks of the school, and my sister and I enjoyed riding our bikes to and from school every day that weather permitted. We went to school with the kids who lived in our neighborhood, and neighbors cared about neighbors.

We rode the bus to and from Northeast Junior High (now Welborn Middle) and Andrews High School, which was only a 10-minute ride back then with lead-footed student drivers (who did scare me, occasionally). We still went to school with our neighbors and occasionally caught a ride with one of them.

High Point is certainly not the same small town in which I grew up, and that is both good and bad. With our sprawling city limits and large neighborhoods, we have regrettably not kept up with school construction to accommodate our children. If you don't believe that, ride by Florence Elementary on Penny Road. (Let's pray that their new building is finished quickly.) A good change I see, however, is that many of our communities are now more diverse in race and culture. Yet, problems with where to send our children to school persist.

I don't have any great plans or color-coded maps, but I do have an idea for you to consider. What about going back, as much as possible, to neighborhood schools where students attend the school nearest their homes? We are now in the middle of a redistricting discussion, and I urge parents to give your input. My thought is that there is something inherently wrong with busing students across town or across the county unless they made the choice to make that long trip to school (such as to a magnet school of choice). I also think there is something wrong with children on one side of their street going to a different school than children on the other side of the same street, and yet that is the situation some face today in Guilford County.

We are facing a fuel crisis which has not continued to escalate, thankfully, but we still must find ways to conserve, and I don't think that a four-day week would be practical for working parents (although I personally like the sound of that). I just think that people who buy a house close to a school in their neighborhood deserve the opportunity to send their children to that school. That would certainly save fuel, don't you think?

I understand that Guilford County is the third-largest school system in the state, and the intricacies of running it and trying to please everyone are next to impossible. That slower, simpler pace of life is gone. But we all - teachers, parents, and administrators - need to work together to come up with a solution that will best serve the children of Guilford County. After all, they are what really matter.

Paula Gulledge Williams lives in High Point and teaches at Pilot Elementary School. Her columns appear on this page every other Thursday.

©The High Point Enterprise 2005

Sueseeeeee said:

I'm trying to find the address of this Paula person right now. She is to be considered armed and dangerous with that kind of a mind.

And she teaches in my school system? Somebody get human resources on the line. I'm putting a stop to this.

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