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Fire the bloody lot of em!

Off the Subject,,,

If a crime is committed on school property, is it against the law for school officials not to call the Police????????

If so, What school official would be charged??????

Would it be the teacher, Principal or School resource officer charged for this offense???????

Or could our superintendent be charged with a crime if he sent word to administrators that all crimes will be handled "In House" without Police involvement??????????

It sure has been quiet on the crime front at our schools this year,,,,I think me's smell a rat........

Just a thought to ponder on this rainy day.

General,

Here's pertinent information from National School Boards Association, dated July 2005:

"The "persistently dangerous" school provision of the No Child Left Behind Act (NCLB) is generating controversy like the act's better known accountability provisions. Under NCLB, schools labeled as persistently dangerous under state definitions must offer transfers to students who want to attend safer schools. The schools also must submit within 30 days a corrective action plan detailing how they will make their campuses safer. Two Atlanta middle schools have been informed by the Georgia Department of Education (GED) that they are the first schools in the state to be identified with the label. Stuart Bennett, deputy state schools superintendent, personally informed the local superintendents involved. "I think this is serious," he says. "I think that the school systems will take this very seriously." In North Carolina, meanwhile, 12 schools have avoided being branded by the state board of education with the scarlet letter of education. Like most states, North Carolina has never labeled a school as "persistently dangerous." Some experts believe states set too severe a definition for the term. "States do not want to be placed in the political position of labeling a school as persistently dangerous," said Kenneth Trump, president of the National School Safety and Security Services, a safety business. "It would be impossible for most schools to meet the criteria even if they wanted the label." A 2004 survey by the National Association of School Resource Officers found that 86 percent of school police say school crime is underreported. "Even the best educator is going to think twice about reporting incidents that will lead to this label," Mr. Trump says. In North Carolina, five or more violent incidents per 1,000 students at a school will trigger a site visit by state officials. The state defines violent incidents as homicide, assault resulting in serious injury, assault involving a weapon, rape, sexual offense, sexual assault, kidnapping, robbery with a weapon, robbery, or taking indecent liberties with a minor. Bringing a gun to school is not included. William Modzeleski of the U.S. Department of Education says many states are not following the intent of the law. He notes that federal guidance suggested that "persistently" should mean over time during one school year but that many states use three years of data as more consistent with the term. The federal government has been reviewing policies and practices in six states and will call for corrective action if appropriate, especially in the area of accurate reporting. Marvin Pittman, North Carolina's director of the division of middle grades education, says that communities know a dangerous school when they see it. "Persistently dangerous is a strong term," he says. "I am thinking of a school where you are afraid to walk." Reggie Felton, a lobbyist for the National School Board Association, contends that a national standard for "persistently dangerous" would be unworkable. "Local communities have to define for themselves what they mean by persistently dangerous schools," he says. Elizabeth Harris, principal of one the Atlanta schools, rejects the label. "We have had a significant reduction in violent behavior," she says. "Our out-of-school suspensions have dropped. The students are proud of their school. For one incident to stigmatize an entire school, I don't think it's fair to the children or for the staff or the community." Richard Kozak, principal of one of the North Carolina schools, sweated through a site visit when two incidents involving a total of five student—a "scuffle" and an incident of inappropriate touching—placed his school on warning. No principal can stop every crime, he says."

Here are some statistics from National School Safety and Security Services:

" Surveys of our nation's school-based police officers conducted by National School Safety and Security Services consistently indicate that school crimes are already underreported to law enforcement. In fact, in four annual surveys of hundreds of school-based police officers per year, our surveys have found the following percentages of officers stating that school crimes nationwide are underreported to law enforcement:

* 2004 survey: 86%
* 2003 survey: 87%
* 2002 survey: 89%
* 2001 survey: 84%

In other words, forget about it. In North Carolina, a student can bring a gun to school and it doesn't "count" as an incident that needs to be reported. You would think that any state that has any concerns for school safety would include "packing heat" as an incident. You can expect a school in GCS to be label as persistently dangerous when pigs fly.

Stormy, if you follow the guidelines exactly as expressed by No Child LB most of our schools in Guilford are persistenly dangerous.
Look at the school report of Northwest for instance. 1 incident per 100. That is way above the 0.5 per 100 level stipuated and right on the District and States average.

NC's policy can be found at

http://sbepolicy.dpi.state.nc.us/Policies/SS-A-006.asp?Acr=SS&Cat=A&Pol=006

It states that:
"A persistently dangerous school is a public elementary, middle or secondary school or a charter school in which a total of five or more violent criminal offenses were committed per 1000 students (0.5 or more per 100 students) during each of the two most recent school years and in which the conditions that contributed to the commission of those offenses are likely to continue into another school year".

Nevertheless you can find examples of reviews from the state with no school being assigned this title. You can find the state notes here:

http://www.dpi.state.nc.us/sbehighlights/2005/06highlights.html

Also see this quote from Grier's Friday notes;

http://www.guilford.k12.nc.us/fridaynotes_archive/3_15.htm

Students in a "persistently dangerous school" or who are victims of a violent criminal offense, as determined by state law, while in or on the school grounds, must be allowed to attend another public school or public charter school.

Plus this:

http://www.guilford.k12.nc.us/fridaynotes_archive/9_26_03.htm

"

Persistently Dangerous Schools
According to the National School Public Relations Association (NSPRA), after all the hand wringing, a final tally shows only 52 of the nation's 85,000 schools dubbed "persistently dangerous" based on the No Child Left Behind guidelines. Guilford County Schools had no school designated as persistently dangerous. Please contact Bob Bateman, School Safety Officer, at 370-8995, should you have questions.

Funny stuff this isn't it?

Yeah, the students and parents in only 58 schools have to be wrige their hands according to Terry Grier about going to school in a dangerous environment, but they shouldn't complain too much. That's such a small number of schools and students, no one should get concerned about school safety. Of course, with all of the underreporting going on in this area with schools avoiding the scarlet letter at all costs, it's probably a much greater number. It is interesting to note that North Carolina has set the bar height so high, no school will ever cross over the line.

I wonder if North Carolina set an appropriate standard and GCS reported the incidences as they should, how many schools would we have on the list with a scarlet number of their forehead? I just wonder.

reassigned,

I think that they get away with it because of the three year requirement. Sure, it may be a very dangerous environment this year with all sortsof violent incidences, but we have to wait two more years to see if it is a trend. Who knows, if just might be a statistical blip this year.

Stormy, its during the last two years.

Once again you can see most school data on this in the school report card.

The police department provides statistics on dispatches&resolutions by address for anyone interested.

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