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Minority student issues forum

It's short notice, but I just learned that three school board members are hosting a public forum on minority student issues Tuesday night.

Topics will include test scores, suspensions and expulsions, the impact of redistricting and minority academic successes. The forum will be hosted by Guilford County Board of Education members Walter Childs, Deena Hayes and Amos Quick, all of whom represent heavily minority districts.

The forum will be from 6 to 8 p.m. Tuesday at New Light Missionary Baptist Church, 1105 Willow Road in Greensboro (near Dudley High School.)

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YO MAMA said:

When will 3 board members...uh, say....Susan, Walter and Dotty..... hold a forum over in High Point for the "minor" issue that is going on over there.

There will never be any forum for the disgruntled, abducted kids from North High Point because REVERSE discrimination is tolerated over there at the Board of Education. HYPOCRITES!!!!

Joe Stafford said:

I commend the minority Board Members for taking the initiative to do something. Major changes will have to be taken in order to get improvement for minority students. They have been patient-in fact too patient. There is absolutely no reason that the academic gap is larger in Guilford County than in the entier state of in the US. I hope this meeting will result in fundamental changes in instruction. I know we can do better and now is the time to start.

Ovation said:

Maybe these 3 can come up with a plan to educate minorities that doesn't involve abducting white kids, long bus rides, or lotteries. If they can do that then I'll be the first to stand and applaud them.

Reassigned said:

God blessem I say.
What would we do without these people who look after ALL the discriminated,bullied,picked on,beaten up,kidnapped,abducted children of Guiford County!

Stormy said:

Wait a minute. I thought that our highly-paid statistician declared victory in Guilford County in the war to eliminate the achievement gap for minorities? Didn't he say that essentially the gap was gone, and the only remaining gap was the poverty gap? If so, why aren't we having a Poverty Issues Workshop? Better yet, with the abysimal test scores being turned-in by all students in Guilford County, why don't we have a hearing on how to improve the quality of education in the schools for all students or to learn why we have a constantly increasing turnover of teachers and administrators?

Buckmtn said:

I've never heard these 3 people discuss anything about education. Perhaps this is really a minority contractor forum.

I'm sure Deena will explain to everyone how a minimum bond level is actually another vehicle of discrimination.

Tetra said:

I thought school board people were elected and took an oath to look out for ALL the children in the county. Silly me.

Ebony&Ivory said:

Some of these board members were so concerned about the "hit" list at Northwest last year. I don't remember any of these same board members expressing concern for the Welborn hit list that listed white students.

I thought the "minority" number students were white in Guilford public schools.

C.Boy said:

Bruce, could you please post directions to New Light Baptist church, Thanks,

Sour Puss said:

Candy Boy,

Take your Twizzlers. I think that meeting will need to be sweetened up a bit.

Stormy said:

General Slak,

Nope, the BOE isn't stuck in the mud, they are stuck on stupid.

bruce buchanan said:

Sure, C.Boy. Just get on Lee Street going east. You'll go past Bennett College on your left and Dudley High School on your right.

Willow Road is your next main crossroad after you pass Lincoln St. (the side street Dudley is on). Turn right on Willow and the church will be right there, across from Dudley's tennis courts.

I'll be there covering this meeting and I hope to see some Chalkboard readers there.

Amos Quick said:

Thank you very much Bruce for your help in "spreading the word" about this meeting. We feel that it is of utmost importance that we regularly meet with and hear from the community.

I would hope there is understanding that in no way are we signaling that we are only concerned about so-called "minority" issues or students. I can assure you that is not the case. In my own district, nearly 4 of 10 registered voters are not African American and I can assure you that my interest and willingness to stand up for ALL the children of District 9 - no matter what - is sincere.

That being said, it is a fact that there are special concerns and issues that affect and have affected "minority" students for a long time. And I make no apologies for bringing attention to and advocating for these issues.

This meeting tonight is the beginning of a series of meetings that I plan to have with the residents of District 9 to discuss the issues related to educating our children. And I have no qualms about meeting with any group any where to do so. This is just the first. And I thank the New Light Baptist Church family for allowing us to do so at there facility, in the heart of District 9.

I invite everyone to attend and look forward to meeting and hearing from many of you tonight and in the near future.

bruce buchanan said:

Welcome to the Chalkboard, Amos! Glad you stopped by and feel free to leave your comments any time.

I'm also looking forward to tonight's forum. It should be interesting to hear what community members have to say.

debora said:

Amos,
So glad to see and hear from you. I think we have made some strides in reaching our minority students over the last few years, but we all know there is alot of room for growth. I can't come to this meeting, but hope to make some in the future. I hope you will report back some of the ideas, suggestions and input that you hear tonight. One issue I feel is really lacking is parental and community involvement. There are many obsticles to overcome; from making our schools more open to parents, making meetings at convenient times, open, honest communication, making parents realize that they are important in the education process to making the administration listen and respond to those same parents. Good Luck!

Wewanttoknow said:

Amos, You said you will stand up for ALL children in District 9. What about the rest of the children in High Point who have not been given the same CHOICE of a neighborhood school. Where do you stand on that?

Children are children. Why does it matter if they are in your district or not? What about their rights to the same type of education as the rest of the county?

Wewanttoknow said:

It must be nice to live in District 9 and have a school board representative.

Let 'em Know! said:

Amos,

Please make sure Walter understands that you want to address the special concerns and issues that affect students in your district. Make sure he has a clear understanding that you have NO plans to bus them to whiter schools in the hope that it helps. Let him know you are looking for proven methods to educate all kids. Last, let him know that kids in Greensboro are very similar to the kids in High Point and that Dot and Susan have sold him on a plan to educate kids that will not work. Tell him the kids in High Point, all races, deserve better than a lottery.

Tellthetruth said:

You heard the inferred political promises loud and clear mentioned by three black speakers at the Penn-G forum. I thought I read recently that Walter said minorities in High Point wheren't getting much of the bond monies sent their way. What exactly was promised to these three speakers and their friends? More schools from the bond monies forthe black communities of High Point? More jobs for black contractors? What did they get in turn for giving only Southwest students the losing lottery tickets?

Ronald said:

Well I just read in the News & Record that Mr. Quick wants to hold a student summit for suspended students to tell why they were suspended. Now this should be good. Remember the three minority student speakers a few weeks ago back-to-back at the end of the school board meeting. This could have been any white teenage telling the same story; my teacher doesn't like me, I talk too much in the halls and am late for class, etc., etc. etc. etc. etc. I am sure the teachers and principals will be invited to share their versions. I am sure someone will be there to give them support for taking time to discipline and not teach.

The questions that should be asked:

What can YOU do to change your behavior?
What can YOU do to improve your education and chances in the future?
Did you follow the rules that are there to be followed for ALL students?
How can YOU contribute to your school community to make the atmosphere more conducive to learning?
How many chances did you have before you were suspended?
Can you introduce us to your parents you brought today?

One question, how do you propose to find these students and still protect their privacy?

Joe Stafford said:

I was at the forum. There was a good crowd and many people articulated their concerns. What is unclear is what changes should be made and when they should be made.

Here are my suggestions:

(1) Stop suspensions except for carrying guns and severe assault.

(2) Replace SROs with guns with Safety Officers without guns.

(3) Have SROs report to Central Office rather than individual school principals. This would provide additional flexibility.

(4) Go back to basics with emphasis on reading. The link between reading and academic achievement seems to have little support in the minority community.

(5) Do something. Talking about something but taking no action seldoms improves the situation.

C.Boy said:

Bruce, if you made it to the forum, could you give a little summation. I meant to go, but forgot about a commitment to work a concession stand at a JV basketball game. Thanks.

bruce buchanan said:

I can do better than that, C.Boy. We had a story on the forum in today's paper and I just posted a new topic on The Chalkboard for everyone to discuss

Barbara Ann said:

Sorry, Joe. What do you define as "severe assault"?

No child should be able to assault a teacher or a principal. There needs to be consequences. When others see that these types of actions carry no consquences, it sends a message to other kids that they can get away with anything. Teachers should feel safe when they go to work. Parents should feel fine when their kid walk out that door to go to school. Children should not be afraid to go to school. Years ago if a child ever hit a teacher, he would be expelled, permanently.

There needs to be alternative schools for kids who choose not to behave and choose not to be educated. These are not elementary school kids. These are older kids. We should not be quick to suspend but they should not be allowed to totally disrupt the learning process for kids who do want to learn. I have seen this in a certain elementary school. It is sad,to say the least. The kids who want to learn just sit there while the others take over and disrupt the class. They have this pathetic look on their faces like "please help me". Besides losing the kids who may be suspended, if you allow the disruptions you have just not educated ALL the other kids in the class because no one can teach under certain circumstances. And NO ONE can learn if there are constant disruptions all day. It wears on the teacher and the students.

One thing we need cameras on buses and more cameras in our schools. Pictures do not lie. These can be a preventative tool or at least acknowledgement of problems that exist.

Reading and math has to start at the early stage of the game. You just can't keep passing kids who can't read or know basic math concepts. Whatever happened to the "Gateways" intended to prevent this?

I didn't understand your reasoning in #2. Has an SRO had to actually use their gun?

I totally agree with number 5. DO SOMETHING. Talk is cheap. What is being done to keep our schools safe?

Barbara Ann said:

and another thing.....quit spending money on all the bells and whistles, spend it on making sure students know the basics FIRST. Students need a goal and a curriculum that fits their own future needs. It is not always "college". We need vo-tech programs. And whatever make sure kids can read and write with proper grammar. Give all kids something to take pride in.

Barbara Ann said:

I just read Bruce's article on the increased crime in our schools. Very sad indeed.

However, the article ended saying that Dr. Grier would is putting cameras on some buses and would like to equip all the buses with cameras. I have written the school board and administration regarding cameras on buses and will continue to puruse this.

I would think the $600,000 needed for the cameras would be better put to use than the 1/2 mill spent on "racial healing". We should continue to work on conflict resolution with all children. I would think there are programs that don't cost 1/2 mill and may not be put on by a questionable "ministry".

Cameras would show too how sometimes school personnel mistreat children in by their words. This would help school personnel maintain the professional attitudes they should have in their jobs.

Cameras would show where the repeat problems are.

Also some PTAs may be willing to pay for one camera on a bus. It is a start. We could also have some businesses out there who would be willing to donate.

Barbara Ann said:

And on race relations, I think it was poster John G who said all the schools need to do is spend money on buying copies of the movie "Crash". Show the movie to teachers and school personnel and the school board. We could ALL take a good look at ourselves, everyone.

This could be great for racial understanding on all sides and certainly a lot cheaper.

Ralph said:

Thought for the day.....

"We acquire the strength we have overcome."

-Ralph Waldo Emerson

That goes out to Stormy, The General, and others

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