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Only time will tell if "clear" messages mean anything to the Board of Education.

Yesm
heaven forbid they might have to start doing their job.

yeah
what do parents know about what's best

Talk is cheap. We want results.

No need for a preview here. As they say in Hollywood.....

"See You at the Forum"

YANKEE, HOTEL, FOXTROT
YANKEE, HOTEL, FOXTROT.

THE LADY SLEEPS IN THE GREEN FIELD
THE LADY SLEEPS IN THE GREEN FIELD

VIVA, LA RESISTANCE!!!!!! VIVA LA FRANCE

SOUTHERN, MOTEL, SIX
SOUTHERN, MOTEL, SIX

THOSE TWO ARE WRONG KIND OF LADIES MIDNIGHT
YOU DON'T WANT WHAT THEY'VE GOT, YOU'LL PAY FOR IT FOR A LONG TIME TO COME

EARLY BIRDS, GET YOUR SPEAKERS ON

VIVA, LE RESISTANCE

ATTENTION HIGH POINT RESIDENTS:

We have had several calls this morning requesting transportation to Providence Place for the redistricing forum tonight. Please be advised, the transportation will only be provided for those citizens living in the inner-city of High Point. We were told by a Ms. Floozy Screwemall to run over anybody else trying to get a ride.

These passengers will also be provided with written statements that they are expected to memorize and recite at the forum. If the passengers have different views than what is written, we have been instructed to put them out on the spot.

Just like the election sites.

EQUAL BUSING FOR NORTH HIGH POINT!

BLACK JACK, KEENO, COUCH, CHAIR
BLACK JACK, KEENO, COUCH, CHAIR

BAIL, GLUE, U.S.
-.- -.-

FLYING EAGLE TAKES THE RING
FLYING EAGLE TAKES THE RING

CALL WINDTALKER

Seriously, the "free ride" that the City of High Point is offering to ONLY certain residents of High Point is just another glaring example that there is ONE giant hidden agenda in this city.

If transportation is provided to ONE, it should be provided to ALL. I'm sick to death of this two-faced city.

I'll be there, but a little late. I would not miss this for anything. I'm assuming Providence Place is too large for the School Board to use its Fire Marshal trick like at SW 2 years ago.

In case Alan Duncan is still wondering who shouted out "let the kids sit up on the stage - it's their school".... That would have been me.

If I remember I'll bring a video camera with a 6 hour tape. That should cover the forum, the subsequent arrests and most of the trial.

I understand that HiTran or its substitute van pool does not serve NHP & J'town. I suggest that we meet at the Big Lots parking lot and the General could deploy a couple of HUMVEES to shuttle us over to the other side of town.

Oh, and just ONE more thing because my blood is BOILING!!!!!

The city of High Point has refused to get involved with this issue for two years now. Mayor Becky has said this is not her domain.

So NOW they are offering FREE transportation to only a certain area to come to a SCHOOL FORUM??

What's up with THAT, Mayor Becky?????????

Is this your way of speaking on the topic WITHOUT actually giving a speech??

I'm disgusted by this city!!!!!!!

Hold the phone! I understand that the vans will be provided AFTER the forum because the buses will no longer be running. If I'm corect, MY city taxes will be paying for this special service. If I request a ride and I am refused, I will call my favorite accountant for financial backing and then my lawyer.

This can't be legal.

Bruce/Jennifer,

Is it true that the city is offering transportation to select citizens?

Please answer on the blog.

Thanks

You know, if this is true, we should all write letters to the companies who show up for market and urge them to go to Las Vegas. I really want an answer to my question.

TURKEY TURKEY GOOBER
TURKEY TURKEY GOOBER

HAVE YOU AT SIX

ANY CHANCE SOMEONE CAN GET ABANDON HIGH POINT SIGNS PRINTED FOR MARKET

GOT YER EARS ON, YER SIGNS PLANTED

SOMETHING STINKS IN THAT PEOPLE WAGON COMIN UP THE SIX

CORRUPTION AT ITS BEST!!!!!!! Attention all elected officials and movers and shakers of HP, you are driving people right out of this city with your corrupted ways!!!!!!!

I am putting my house on the market and getting the hell outta of here!!!!!

it's nice that gcs & the city of hp seem to have worked together to provide transportation to those who need it in order to attend tonight's forum! i don't think that jamestown and north high point residents are being offered this transportation choice though, and i'm not sure gso residents were offered similar transportation choices tuesday night. but that's okay.

continuing this train of thought, if the board decides to bus kids out of their current neighborhood schools and into the southwest district (and vice versa) during THIS year's redistricting process, is someone/agency prepared to continue providing transportation to these families to visit their new schools during open houses, extracurricular activities, drama/dance productions, atheletic events, practices, etc?

if so, what are the projected costs (over & above the additional costs of bussing children out of their neighborhood schools) & how will this work? if not, how does our school board think lack of transportation may negatively impact these families, students, academic performance, student, parent & community involvement, schools, etc.?

Cheryl,

Great questions! I asked the same ones at the meeting at SW before the lottery was voted on. I was told that this would be addressed and not be a problem.

I don't recall seeing parents or students being provided transportation to and from events since the plan was implemented. Once again, its the poorest communities who are suffering because of bad decisions.

REMEMBER IT IS AN ELECTION YEAR. TELL YOUR FRIENDS.

Did our City Council VOTE on the expense for the vans? When was that meeting and who voted "for" and who voted "against".

I agree with NC Transplant, we should write letters and let the market visitors know how High Point treats its citizens.

Furniture Market

Simeon Stadium for Parking for Market

Clara Cox Housing Site (today's newspaper) future Parking for Market

To market to market to buy a fat pig, home again home again jiggety jiggety

To Vegas to Vegas to buy a fat hog, market to Vegas jiggety jog

Heard that Windtalker is printing up some real special signs for the upcoming market

Welcome to High Point
We want you money,
not your family

Welcome to High Point

We know lots about improving scores of school buildings but absolutely NOTHING about improving the scores of students.

Welcome to High Point.

Fantasia was smart.

She left.

High Point North Carolina
Low Point Schools

Welcome to High Point

When we redistrict, our school board members get HIGH then POINT to a white spot on a map.

Welcome to North High Point
We the overtaxed
having been paying so much for so long
for those South of us
that we must now think about succession.

How about a new city, James Point. How about a seperate School District?

Use 311 as the line and include Colfax. A fast growing, young and vibrant city not dependant on the furniture market or old money politics.

Say No to all bonds now! We are done!!

VOTE NO BONDS! REMEMBER THE BUSES!

"The lord is my shepherd, I shall not want...

(from landing craft headed to Omaha)

"Thou shall not steal..."

(from bus heading to hell..um..I mean, High Point).

NO BOND IS A GOOD BOND

NO BUS IS A GOOD BUS

Here we go again, taxes up, property values, down

Former home of Fantasia, who's smarter her or us?

NC Transplant,

Yes, the city is offering rides to bus riders who go to the meeting. They've extended the hours of the "guaranteed ride" home feature. They have done so for other events in the past, including furniture market, according to Buddy Cox, transit manager.

However, school officials did not arrange for the rides. Al Heggins, High Point's director of Human Relations, asked for the extended hours after receiving calls and being stopped by community members who were worried about getting home if they went to the meeting. These were residents who rely on city transportation, she said. Bus service typically ends about 6 or 6:30 p.m. and the meeting is from 7-9 p.m. So they could get rides there, but would have no way home.

I hope that helps answer your questions.

Do not give up the fight just yet. There are more Board members outside of High Point and Jamestown that are fed up with Dot and Susan's fooling around. There is still hope that they will see that it is in the County's interest to leave High Point/Jamestown alone. Why risk Bonds and budget support for the whole county just for Dot and Susan's personal agenda?

Jennifer,

I too called and was told that Bernita Sims was the person who asked for the van service and the advertising for the transportation. I was told that it was advertised on radio, and they didn't know where else. I asked who was paying. I was told the city was. I guess my taxes are paying for it.

NCT

This is no surprise. She was overhead at the recent school board meeting saying the number of parents opposing the Choice Plan have died down.

Remember the forum at Penn-Griffin. Specific agendas were heard LOUD AND CLEAR. The entire room heard it.

I suppose we will see who is dead at tonight's forum.

I was upset to see the rude comments about the transportation issue at the forum tonight. You all claim that you care about all the students in Guilford County, but you want to exclude parents who are interested enough to come but have no transportation. We ask for parent involvement but then expect them to overcome obstacles that most of us don't have. Maybe some of you from North High Point and Jamestown could have volunteered to go to the projects and inner city neighborhoods and provide transportation for some of these parents. They have their child's best interest at heart too. Maybe they agree with your position for neighborhood schools. I just think some of you are showing your true colors. I don't have children in school now, but my children attended Montlieu, Parkview, Welborn and Andrews where they were in the minority. I have been active in the PTA's of their schools and I met many wonderful hard working parents. I think some of your comments are very hurtful to these families. They are very divisive. You say that you have not said things against Andrews, but one just has to read comments such as some of these about the transportation to know how you really feel. We aren't as stupid as you think!

true colors,

How stupid are you, then, if you aren't as stupid as we think you are?

I think that remark is uncalled for and immature. That is the attitude that I am talking about. The sarcasm and ugly remarks do nothing to bring people together.
I am a professional and my husband is a professional. We have one child who has finished college and one who is presently a sophomore in college. We have been very involved with their education.
I don't like Terry Grier or many of the things that the School Board have done, but I still find many of the remarks on here offensive and divisive.

What I find ironic is that the same (albeit few) people who favored Map C tonight are the VERY SAME people who opposed it at Penn-Griffin just a few short months ago.

true colors,

I didn't post earlier about the transportation issue, but in defense of others who did post - are you not aware that North High Point has NO city bus service?

Yes, I am aware that there is no bus service there. I think we should have more transportation available to everyone in the city and between High Point and Greensboro. However since there is no regular bus service there, I doubt that there are many people who live in that area who are dependent on public transportation and would have needed to use it to attend the meeting tonight.
The fact that North High Point does not have bus service was not the point of the discussion. If this is a concern it should be brought up to the City Council. It really does not have anything to do with the meeting tonight.

Okay now everyone has had a fair chance to speak.

Everyone has been provided transportation to come and speak. Many do agree with neighborhood schools.

We are glad for those who took a bus to come and speak.

Now it is the School Board's turn. Either they:

a) Listen to what the majority of the people have been saying and continue to say. Do what is right by the citizens. Suck it in, scrap the maps and move forward.

OR

b) Ignore the overwhelming message of the majority of speakers at the forums this week. Continue to do what they want with no respect for what parents want. Continue to make High Point divisive. Continue to deteriorate any hope for positive relations with parents and future school bonds. Continue to not address real issues of education and safety.

Most impressive were the many professionals who spoke tonight, i.e. busing does not work!

Was especially impressed with the High Point businessman who moved to Davidson Co. to protect his home investment who exhorted the board to screw the N. High Point people. Priceless. And then some Mendenhall-coached Central people like robots going up and stating map C is good when this proposal does absolutely nothing in reguards to Central. "Show of Hands"!!!! How can you be the representative for a school and go to another school and rally up their PTA to be mercenaries to go talk against the school you are representing when the proposal doesn't even affect them? Totally outrageous! These people are around the bend.

Loved the headline in the HPE this morning about last nights forum: People Speak for Diversity. Wouldn't you like to see their headline for something like Pearl Harbor in big block letters:
AMERICANS SHOOT DOWN 23 JAPANESE PLANES. The silliness never ends.

You folks are not the only ones with the lottery deal. Take a look at this site and you will see it is happening all over the state. In this article you will see it was because of one individuals lawsuit however and not the schoolboard. It is beginning to wear on the nerves of some of the parents in Asheville. Thought you might be interested in view of what is occuring in your neck of the woods.

NOTE: mrproduce's link is here. I made it a clickable link. Hope you don't mind. - Jen

It appears clear that an overwhelming support for quality neighborhood schools exits. We now have the Mayor and city council weighing in and all agree, fix our schools and stop alienating our citizens.

The real forum should have been how to help improve our schools, not how to bus them. Our school board fails to address performance and has spent so much of the last 5 years chasing their tail and trying to cover up the mess they left on the linoleum.

Like a large dog in a small house their hard to miss, hard to ignore and even harder to clean up after. As a community the discussion should not be about race, it should be about kids and their education. Why can they not learn to read and right, is our water contaminated? Are the children here born to under perform? I don't believe either. That leaves a school board and superintendent that need to roll up their sleeves and get off their tush and get involved. Instead of alienating and changing what need not be changed, how about getting some after school programs to help these kids and community centers to give them opportunities to mature in safe environments? True leadership on either the city or School Boards side and this could be done at this time.

Bonds to assist in this effort would appear feasible and the new schools everyone knows High Point needs and deserves are possible. Blairwood and neighborhoods north of 311 have no business being bussed across town. Jamestown being bussed and Whites mill are just ridiculous. As a community we can fix the problem, we just need certain agendas to be ignored.

I heard opportunity for City/School Board joint efforts. Someone should be thinking. Any Ideas? This is a great forum to cogitate in.

OOPs, my spell checker must have given the wrong write, right?

mrproduce,

Very interesting - I didn't realize this "lottery" concept was being used elsewhere in the state. (excluding Wake County)

I'm curious - what happens at the Middle and High School levels? Lottery or assignment?

C Boy,

All great points. We know who influences the press. We have known it for a long time.

They can print all the slants and say "MUST" redistrict, blah, blah, blah. THERE IS NO "MUST". Lines are in place now. These are the lines now used for the 10th and 11th graders. And remember the IT plan was not "redistricting" per the SB and TG. It was a magnet theme/choice plan. (of course we all know it was back door redistricting at it's finest)There is no true need to redistrict until a new high school is built in High Point.

Newspapers can print all the slants/lies they want. It does NOT CHANGE the TRUTH.

The demographics haven't changed much as to ratios. The demographics have changed for continued irresponsible growth by builders and developers.

Put a NO VACANCY sign on SWH. Send new developments that appear to other schools in the county that have seats. Builders and developers pay impact fees for schools and roads.

The the children who are in their school, in their school.

Let the magnet themes stay and grow and invite any interested child in the county to that magnet program. This is how the rest of the county gets their diversity. Why should High Point be any different???

The only thing that can ever improve a school is neighborhood investment and buy-in or development of specialized quality curricula that will attract interest and investment buy-in from outside the neighborhood (by people who have not been abducted), and competent administration providing a safe, orderly learning enviornment. People forced into a school from across town will never invest in a school. They go home to somewhere else at 3pm. You can never build up a school by kidnapping people to go there anymore than you can build a business by kidnapping people from the other side of town to shop at your store. It's not sustainable. People will learn to avoid the kidnappers and hide from the buses (by moving or going private). Like Bernita Sims said, let's build the programs. Like Becky said; let's provide the safety and maybe people will buy in. Above all, let's not rush into something dumb again.

and one more thing....

Southwest High is the perfect example of diversity in this county as one of the speakers pointed out last night. It IS a DIVERSE school.

Incidently, a parent and I were discussing how Florence Elementary is the best example of true diversity that we have ever seen. We have kids from Sweden, Viet Nam, Japan, Bosnia, Korea, Mexico, India, Iran, Caucasian Americans and Black Americans. There are many different countries and religions represented. It is like working at the UN. This is one of the schools that feeds into Southwest now and some to Welborn. If these same kids feed into SW, how much more diverse could you be?

We are hearing they are teaching on carts at Andrews. So where are all these so called empty seats?

Central has classes in the basement. GCS created the extra seats there in the Tomlinson Building when they moved the Montessori program to Triangle Lake. The could have used the Tomlinson Building for an Alternative School that we need so desperately.

This is not about SPACE.

My point is they have options.

The personal agendas are just so obvious.

Follow the patterns.

Ditto everything John Gehris said.

Parental involvement is the number one factor for a successful school. If you continue to force people against their will, you will never have buy-in.

More and more people are leaving public schools and going private. Maybe many cannot afford to leave but thing of this. What type of parents are you losing? The ones that have time and do volunteer their time in the schools, are involved and give of themselves. These are the parents you continue to lose.

If you know anything about sales, say for instance real estate, it is only the top 5% of salespeople that make the big bucks. The rest are "average" or do nothing. Look at it this way, you will be losing the top 5% of your school volunteers, the organizers, doers, the Type-A personalities, the ones who weed and plant flower beds, the ones who come in an tutor reading, the ones who build playgrounds. You will have no one left to take the reins when you chase these parents out of the public school system. Private schools are now welcoming them with open arms.

Xactamundo, Barb. Well said!

True Colors,

I'm not sure if I should be wading into this conversation or not, but here goes.....

If I hadn't been at this for so long, I too would have a different understanding/misunderstanding of some of the things said on the chalkboard. I think I know most of the anonymous posters and know their hearts.

I believe the overwhelming majority of things said are said as a direct reflection of mistrust of elected officials. They have nothing to do with how these individuals feel about other schools or individuals. Whether one agrees or disagrees with how individuals comment, "it is what it is"..... a group that is so tired of not being heard or represented by its elected officials, that all confidence has been lost.

High Point, January 2004. The Choice Plan was presented as a "DRAFT". The school board held forums. The people spoke against the proposed plan. The school board went ahead without listening to the people. Lots of people enrolled in private schools. People moved. The Chalkboard activity skyrocketed. Signs were printed. Magnets were printed. Displays were built. Community relations suffered.

High Point, January 2006. The Choice Plan ends. The board decides to redistrict. New maps are presented. The school board held forums. The people spoke against the proposed plan.
-- to be continued --

I continue to be amazed by the implicit racism of the people who are arguing for neighborhood schools and who would stoop so far as to criticize the city for guaranteeing transportation to low-income people after the normal bus line shuts down.

The fact is that the same arguments that have been put forward in favor of so-called neighborhood schools, which I prefer to call Lily-white schools were the same arguments employed against integration and later busing.

The sad part of that argument is that by seeking neighborhood schools, you're guaranteeing that the schools in other neighborhoods suffer. Why?

Let's remember what Barbara Ann said a little while ago: " Look at it this way, you will be losing the top 5% of your school volunteers, the organizers, doers, the Type-A personalities, the ones who weed and plant flower beds, the ones who come in an tutor reading, the ones who build playgrounds. You will have no one left to take the reins."

In addition to parental involvement suffering, the best students also leave (for private and home school), school donations suffer, the best teachers leave, and the school suffers, and, as a result, the kids suffer.

Now, I understand the selfishness that motivates people to advocate for that to happen. I just would like it if the self-involved North High Pointers who make those arguments would also acknowledge that, if they win, it's going to have negative consequences for the students in at least two other schools.

Thank you Rest of Story!

Will it have a happy ending for the School Baord this time? Or will parents and the School Board continue at odds? Will it have a happy ending for parents and children?

Can we FINALLY focus on Education and Safety. Can Community and School Board work hand in hand?

I don't know many people who are the quitter types. As Kay said parents might get tired, they may have mistrust, but I don't know of many quitters. When one person is tired, another takes their place.

We regroup, we re-energzie, we are a community.

For all the stress the IT Plan has caused to so many families, I thank God every day for the fine parents and friends I have met these past few years. There are days when it has been trial by fire, but for many you have been through the fire. You became stronger like a forged piece of steel. I know many of you feel the same way.

These parents love their kids and nothing is EVER wrong with that. To want what is best for them. To want to be treated like the rest of the county gets is treated. To be listened to like other parents are listened to. You never have to defend loving your children. Never.

Some can twist stories anyway they choose, but we all have been at this so long. We know the TRUTH.
Nothing can change that.

What amazes me is that when the HP Choice Plan was implemented, it never affected Central students at all. Not one Central student was moved.

Now the Central parents have decided they like Map C which doesn't affect Central students at all. Again, not one Central student will be moved.

I can't imagine that this scenario would play out again.

Emory Wood

You understand NOTHING!

This is just more propaganda.

That race card has been played once too often.

It gets old.

Play the tapes of some last school board meetings.

Look at how many students Central lose on certain maps. NONE.

Same as in 1999. You lose NONE.

Look at the vast multitude of children in Emorywood who go to private schools. Where are their money and volunteer hours going?

Nothing has changed on personal agendas since 1999.

Emory Wood,

fyi, Southwest High School is the epitomy of a diverse school. Check out the numbers. Please come and walk the halls or attend a football game.

We all get along just fine in our diverse school.

How many students are Central parents willing to bus away from home?

Emory Wood - would you call the neighborhood school Dudley a Lily-white school?

People here were only upset that the political agendas of our High Point reps offered a special service paid for with tax dollars to one specific area of the city.

I think what upsets you and many others is that it is finally clear to all that the people you are trying so hard to draw out of their neighborhoods and say they want to be shipped across town to Southwest, don't really want to leave their neighborhoods. They don't want to be forced bused to a forum or forced bused to a school. That group that you relied on last night made their wishes clear. They want to stay close to home too.

A high proportion of those parents asking for diversity will not be having their children bused!
They have and will be guaranteed what we all want which is neighborhood schools!
Also, take note, nobody is asking to have their children bused long distances to school. I did not hear anyone stand up and say PLEASE BUS MY CHILD TO THE OTHER SIDE OF TOWN!!!

In fact its actually people like Emorywood that are being racist. It is these people that are saying "we dont want these children at our schools".

Then taking the Major's stance. Do something with the children that are not behaving. We are letting 100 gang members dictate the future of our schools. That is not right!

Map D and let it be!!!!!(Thats D for Dottie)

Map D and let it be!

That would make a great sign. Even a better billboard.

EMORY WOOD

THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE!

The 1999 maps sent the "unwanteds" out of Central. Central people took the children they wanted out of Andrews to help THEIR school. Central manipulated the maps. They are still trying to manipulate other people's lives.

TRUTH is correct!

Black communities, overwhelmingly in this county, have spoken in favor of neighborhood schools. They don't want their little pocket neighborhoods bused here, there and everywhere.

ALL parents want their children to have a decent education and the resources to accomplish this. The poor neighborhoods deserve this.

Map D

Let it be.

Map D

Shall set you free.

D for Dot's motion

D for Decency

D for Disarm

D for Do move forward

D for let's be DONE

Fact: Of the 70 speakers at last night's forum, I only heard 2 who favor forced diversity, the balance desire neighborhood schools - countywide.

Nice turnout last night at Providence Place – it was a good idea to provide transportation. Everyone had an equal opportunity to attend and present their concerns, show support for their map of preference and state their positions on neighborhood schools vs. forced diversity.

It was basically a repeat of Tuesday’s meeting. The overwhelming majority of parents throughout this county want neighborhood schools. That cannot be denied. And, they want neighborhood schools in every area of this county. It is a very diverse group who support neighborhood schools: black, white, female, male, blue collar, white collar, elected officials, those who elect the officials. The message was clear – countywide neighborhood schools and Map D.

I also choose Map D for several reasons: A lot of people (from diverse backgrounds and all areas of Guilford County) worked on those ’99 redistricting maps for many, many months – then they were carefully selected and approved by the board. These individuals researched, studied the facts, took their time, held discussion after discussion, met their goals, and did a fair job of redistricting. Most of the public agreed and the board agreed. Not much has changed with demographics or growth projections since that time. Use Map D, put additional resources in those schools which need them, replace “accommodation” with accountability and responsibility, and remove consistently disruptive, violent children from our schools in order to provide a safe environment for our teachers to teach and students to learn.

Very clearly, MAP D is the map of choice. According to our count there were about 70 speakers Thursday night. Of those speakers who stated a specific preference (35) , 21 chose MAP D, 2 preferred Map A, 5 wanted Map B/B*, and 5 opted for Map C. If one included those speakers who implied a map preference, I figure 41 or so would have supported Map D (the other counts remain the same).

Again, the overwhelming majority support MAP D.

Will the voices of the constituents make a difference in the board's decision this time? Only time will tell. The board has been listening to parents’ concerns recently – and acting upon them: no single sex schools for Washington/Gillespie, add 6th grade to Triangle Lake Montessori, made drastic revisions to the original redistricting proposal for Northwest/Northern, no SLC’s at Grimsley, reinstate middle school SRO’s etc. And, there were not that many voices in these examples. During the last few years, the importance of neighborhood schools has been a consistent mantra repeated by hundreds and hundreds of parents, and utilizing the same set of rules for every school in the Guilford County School system – no more treating the High Point, Jamestown, and North High Point areas differently than the rest of our county – one county movement.

Of the 70 speakers, I only heard 2 who supported forced diversity, the balance desire neighborhood schools - countywide.

As an Eastern Guilford parent I do not support
Map D...........................

For those of you that do not know,
our chldren are being bused past 5 closer schools!!

One school is 1 mile away .......Hairston,

Two are 2 miles away from home. Aycock
Licoln
next Mendenhall
nest Kiser
next Northeast

These schools are not full...
Lincoln contains the VSN program and a magnet program.

Move these programs to Eastern, allow
kids that could walk to these schools to attend it.

Since 1999 the Dudley renovation and the re-opening of Licoln academy have occurred...these lines need to be re-drawn to accomodate these changes!

Fill Eastern with students that do not mind a 45 minute bus ride and for parents that do not depend on city transportation.

There is no city transportation to Gibsonville!!

Frank,

You make some very strong points for Neighborhood Schools for you part of town. Many people in in High Point and the Jamestown areas are not familiar with that end of town. Just as you would probably not be familiar with the demographics in High Point and Jamestown.

Of the two forums this week, the people that spoke in favor of Map D are the hundreds of parents who have been targeted for unnecessary and untimely redistricting. No new high school is on the drawing board now for High Point. It is all a "shell game".

From what I have learned about Eastern from your excellent posts here on the CB, this makes a lot of sense. The School Board made it quite clear that they can do tweaking on the maps. I would gather your parents together and speak out for Neighborhood Schools. the next school board meeting is January 26.

Where Map D and holding the lines is what the majority of people in High Point wants, there have been other changes to your neck of the woods, i.e. moving the strong needs program from Aycock SINCE the 1999 maps. You have been through changes already. Eastern has been in the news for violent incidences.

Also do you know when the strong needs program was moved from Wiley Elementary? I have friends who loved that program and felt it was extremely successful.

Feel free to call me anytime and talk. My phone number is in the phone book or drop me an e-mail. I know some poeple over there who are more familiar with the demographics of your area and I can hook you up.

Barbara Ann McAbee

C Boy,

I just read the HP newspaper. The headline is truly hilarious. What is even more funny is the matching photo of people raising their hands. You would think they majority was for diversity - truly laughable.

This seems to be the standard MO of the HPE, anold journalist trick I've heard about.

I have the HPE front page edition of the night after Black Tuesday, 2/10/04, the night of the vote for the IT Plan in my collection of much school "news". Kids cried hysterically when the IT Plan was announced. That was the real essence of the evening. Did the HPE put that photo? NO!

The photo was of these SAME children smiling with their hands waving in the air as a speaker spoke out against the infamous IT Plan. The accompanying headlines read that the Choice Plan was voted in - like these kids were "happy".

Talk about misleading. Read just the headlines - see matching photo - some things never change - they must think we are stupid - well maybe they hope to fool some people.

You think they wouldn't be so OBVIOUS of who is popping in their editorial office all the time to to chat about their agendas.

Truly insane.

Emory Wood

"Negative consequences in at least two other schools...."

There are negative consequences NOW in all of our schools due to failures by GCS during the past several years. The majority of parents did not fail these kids.

We pay administrators and specialists and big bucks to educate our kids. They are failing many of our kids. It is not up to children sitting next to children to teach children. Why would you tear apart a school that is working okay (not great, but okay) to make three schools "equally worse". To me that is what is extremely selfish.

What needs to be done is hold the highly paid administrators, curriculum facilitators and specialists and our school board that we elect, accountable. Quit trying to hide struggling children. Provide the schools that need more help with better teachers, smaller classrooms, remedial reading, summer school, after school programs, mentors like Big Brothers/Big Sisters, outreach programs to the parents,community service programs for repeat offenders, etc. etc. etc. Make ALL our schools safe once and for all. Remove the gangs from our PUBLIC schools. this is a public safety issue, not just educational now. The news only reports the major incidents. There is much that is hushed up that doesn't make the newspapers.

I saw the beat up kid from Northeast on TV, the boy that was attacked by several students and no teachers were around. I didn't see that in the N & R. I might have missed it.

Safety in our schools needs to be a number one priority. We shouldn't keep seeing principals running with walkie-talkies on the news like some TV drama called "Cops". These are supposed to be schools, places of learning.

A kid should not get shot waiting for a bus (Grimsley this past year).

One other thing, I loved the comment in one of the papers that a man said he spoke for the "silent majority". I couldn't be there last night, but myself and the many others who want Safe, Neighborhoods schools are speaking for the Real Silent Majority who really are saying what the TRUE MAJORITY of the people want. Many just don't come out and speak. This goes for parents who didn't get a bus ride too.

I go on record now as speaking for the "real silent majority" who want an education for their children in a safe, neighborhood school and not a 90 minutes bus ride to hide them.

Frank, get some parents and get to the mtg.

Truth, on the 11th you posted some demographic data on the CB-a brakedown of each school. Could you please post the source of that data. An important enqiring mind wants to know.

Emorywood is an imposter, possibly Paris.

As one thinks about last night. It in many ways was surreal. Was like an episode of "Twilight Zone" You basically had a meeting of three warring groups of white people. And make no mistake, everyone in that room is for their neighborhood school. At stake was "Who's school gets the white kids". Now obviously, the supplier of this valuble excess white kid "Holy Grail" / "Manna From Heaven" are the SW parents. (which is ridiculous given the SW demographics) Obviously these other parents establishing some type of claim or soverignity over someone else's kids for the benefit of their children is absurd, but by convincing themselves that they were doing it in the name of the p.c. catchword of the moment- "diversity" they could justify it in their own minds. I mean, we're talking otherwise intelligent civilized people here. And they're asking for "a show of hands" to see how many peole want to screw the SW parents when they are not forthcoming with the "manna". The SW parents of course are looking at these people like they are crazy, with obvious justification. The most ridiculous, pathetic and causitive part of the whole thing is that this thinking is encouraged by the actions of certain members of the board and similarly thinking people on schoolboards all across the coutry. The only truly sane person in the room in retrospect was Bernita Sims. She got up and said it was a quality issue, didn't say a word about demographics. No sane black person can accept the white kid /manna from heaven model. It is inherently ridiculous and self-defeating right out of the gate. Amos doesn't accept it. Deena doesn't accept it. It can't be accepted because it's nuts. This thinking has to be totally abolished by everyone! The Twilight Zone has to end. Off the air permanantly!

C. Boy,

You must be thinking of one of the classic Twilight Zone episodes on a few weeks ago over the weekend (one of my favorites)...the one where all the neighbors in the 50's (60's) are fighting each other to get in the one neighbor's bomb shelter...friends tearing into each other and tearing down the door.

As the episode ends, it was a hoax.

This is so similar everyone scrambling for the same thing, a decent, safe school for their child. Only so many buildings to go around. Build more schools. Make them safe.

It IS pathetic.

MapC=backdoor meetings + corruption

"Blairwood and neighborhoods north of 311 have no business being bussed across town"

Amen, Brother Garth. It's about time someone recognized that--you just got my vote.

C. Boy,
What if we dumped some white bodies into "their" school. What do you think they would do with them? Look at them? Sit beside them? Follow them around? Hang out after school and on the weekends? Sit them on the front bleacher at the basketball game?

How will white bodies improve their school?

Great idea, Almond. Instead of "Weekend at Bernie's", "Weekend at Dotty's".

I was walking home from school to my new home in the fabulously new and wealthy housing development across the road from SW High, when suddenly I was knocked unconsious and loaded into a car that had "Go Black Bison" on a bumper sticker on the back. I remember the car being driven by a frizzy- haired lady with a crazed look on her face...along with multiple youths who looked like they just finished golfing at High Point country club...

(someone else taker over)

Almond Joy,

Your racial references are sad and unfortunately represent just possibly some of those who post on the Chalkboard. Shame be upon you. May your tribe never increase.

BlairWHAT,

Not so fast on the vote for Mr. Garth. He's a nice person, but got creamed when he ran in 2004. Chances are he'll get creamed again.

Now if I wanted to go with a winner my vote'd be for Barbara Ann. Women tend to be successful in BOE elections. Just look at the current list of Guilford cty BOE office holders and you'll see my point is validated. People tend to associate women, more than men, as the educators of our youth thus they have greater success being elected as BOE's.

Barbara Ann,

Jury still out? Take the plunge. The future of our youth depends on you.

C. Boy,

Shame on you for associating with Almond Joy and his kind.

Get a hold of yourself man or I'll make you stand at the Chalkboard in front of your classmates and give you another question to answer.

Bubba
"They" want my white kid. Why?

Looking back perhaps we were a little over the top about the transportation issue. But, maybe its a measure of the total distrust that some of the discriminated High Pointers have for our elected officials.
The other thing is could they of put the meeting any further away? It was almost in D. County.

D that reminds me of something!
Ah!
Map D and Let it be (D for Daft old Dotty)

Your posts today are outrageous. Its unbelievable in this day and time you think that providing transportation for poor people to a public forum is cause for a lawsuit. It shows a complete lack of empathy and understanding for the less fortunate. Do you think that someone's poor economic status doesn't warrant the right to listen and share their ideas? Its the obligation of government to ensure that everyone has an equal voice despite their economic status. How do you expect people to attend a public hearing if they don't have transportation. (spare the rhetoric about neighborhood schools because unless the poor live close enough to walk to school (most do not) they still have transportation issues and it makes little difference if they have to ride a bus 2 miles or three.)

Your character assaults on of good honorable people whom are trying to serve our community and do what is best for the entire city are disgusting. You are not respectable people. Your threats or attempts to bargain over bonds are ridiculous. No knew school bonds will ever pass to build more schools while schools have empty seats just because you don't want your children around people of color. God is watching you and shaking his head in disgust! The Pope

Pope,

I see you must be a graduate of Guilford County Schools.

Pope needs to work on reading comprehension. The posters were mad that the same service was not provided for everyone, even the lawsuit threat. Find one example of the opposite.

I'm going to have to disagree with you, Bubba. The last time around, I think that the Garth campaign underestimated the other side. I also think that last time, there existed a great deal of angst between the candidates. I think with this election, Garth, Barbara Ann and Tim Mann (if BA and TM run) their platforms are generally consistent. And I don't buy that "women do better in SB elections." (Referencing A. Duncan, A. Quick, W. Childs) At any rate, whether it's Garth, Barbara Ann or Tim, we'll have a Win, Win, Win situation.

But thanks, Garth for mentioning Blairwood. Sometimes I feel that we're the forgotton neighborhood.

And "Pope" since you are so obviously attuned to God's actions, I was wondering if you are you talking to God, much like the New Orleans mayor Ray Nagin? Sorry, I just couldn't resist, but I have to shake my own head when people must pull God into an argument to make their case. (And yes Bubba, we know you love Jesus--most of us do)

I am so sad about all of this.
I live in Blairwood and in spite of living 2.5 miles away from SW my children go to Andrews, which is further away than SW. I would love to go to SW but I am also happy at Andrews too. The lines need to be drawn somewhere. That’s it. I am for neighborhood schools but in the practical sense. Not everyone can go to his or her closest school. Of course what is ridiculous is what the SB is proposing in the swapping maps A and C. Give us more solutions at Andrews and Central PLEASE. I like the comment from a poster that said that we are letting a 100 or so gang members dictate the future of our schools.
If they don’t want to be there then get them out! Don’t let them ruin it for the innocent others. That is what our Major wants!

It is map D for me. We want to stay at Andrews! WE DO NOT WANT TO GO TO CENTRAL. ITS TOO FAR AWAY!
I hope the school board listens this time.

And grammar lessons for the Pope in Guilford County Schools too. It is a moot point now as public transportation was provided to specific parts of town. Too bad the people in North High Point who didn't have cars couldn't get a bus ride. Everyone in the inner city had their chance to speak. I'm sure bonds will not pass over a few "empty seats" that do not even exist, seats that were put there in the first bond referendum in a school that never needed them, yeah right. That's the reason alright. Surely it could not be that that the county schools continue to waste taxpayers' money. No that cannot be it. It must be all the trust they have in the system. Maybe it is because projects for Jamestown continue to be dropped. The possibilities are endless.

D for Doable

D for Duration

D for Don't screw with us anymore

D for Decent treatment

D for Downright sensible

D for Definitely 4 years

Map D it shall be.

First, thanks for pointing out my typos... I'll try to edit the next post more carefuly. But for reading comprehension...well its perfect. I can even read between the lines and it says you are a bunch of selfish racist punks who behave like spoiled children. I forgive you for your ignorance though because its the christian thing to do. The Pope

Mr Po.

As a practising Catholic I find your use of the Pope's name an insult.

It clearly shows what kind of a person you are too.
You obviously have no values and probably ridicule other peoples belief's. The use of his title is a clear indication that you are a closet bigot/racist. You are also probably one of those that is advocating diversity but will not be getting bussed.

lookinback

In regards to the comment about the location of the forum Tuesday night, I give the BOE credit for planning it in a place to accommodate an expected large crowd. I have never been inside Providence Place, but I am well aware of the location. It is not hard to find. I eat at Rainbow quite often. (You should try it now that you know where it is!) I also understand that Providence Place has state of the art technology which is far superior to any school auditoriums I have been in. (The accoustics at Andrews are terrible.)

I think that criticizing the board for every decision they make weakens the valid arguments. It is like "picking your battles" with your teenagers.

Trucolors,

I agree with that. It was a very good place for visuals and room etc.
It was also faraway though.For some of the less advantaged folk this may of been a deterrent to go.

Ignorant

I am also a practicing Roman Catholic. I found the use of the name "The Pope" quite rude. It does show the kind of troll this person is. It is bad enough for people to tell racist lies about people they do not even know. Now they are picking on people's religious beliefs. Religion is DIVERSE too. Please practice what you preach. And fyi I believe it is "who" not "whom" but that is not important. Making fun of other people's religion is.

TRUCOLORS AND LOOKIN BACK

WHY WAS THE MEETING AT PAGE?

IT IS REALLY FAR FOR HIGH POINT PEOPLE.

Question,

sorry what is your point?

WHY WAS THE MEETING AT PAGE WHEN THEY ARE NOT GETTING REDISTRICTED?

IT WAS VERY FAR FOR HIGH POINT RESIDENTS TO GO TO ANOTHER CITY. TO ME, IT LOOKS LIKE THEY DON'T WANT TO HEAR INPUT.

I never insulted the Catholic faith just you! You should ask your priest and God for guidance because you are truly misguided. Many of you live as close to Andrews as you do Southwest. Your leader Grand Dragon Tim Mann lives almost as close to Andrews as Soutwest so don't give me that baloney about bussing... its about race! You know it is and your twisted logic to justify your actions doesn't fool anyone. My biggest fear with a diversity plan is for my African American students that may have to attend classes with the children of biggots.

I agree with the pope although I think he should change his screen name. But this is about race. I am for diversity and wanted to attend the forum and speak but my husband was out of town and after reading many of the posts here I was afraid that there might be violence. Its seems many of your group behave childishly and threaten people. I know members of the school board and they are good people. I really don't like the way members of your group have been so disrespectful. I'm not sure who's running for BOE but all of you are horrible choices!

Dear Window Dressing,

For you I repent for using the screen name Pope. I'm now Troll. Thanks for your post. You were right to be afraid these people are scary!

Troll (formerly known as Pope)

What map do you like best for High Point?

Pope aka troll aka misinformed

Tim happens to live in my neighborhood. Here are the closest schools to our neighborhood:

1. Ragsdale
2. Western
3. Southwest
4. Smith
5. Andrews
6. Grimsley

Yes, you read right! Grimsley High School is almost as close to our neighborhood as Andrews.

Before you go spouting off, please check your facts.

Since Bubba never answered I will ask Troll...why do the parents at Andrews want my white child?

Page was picked as the school on the Eastern side of the county. It might be hard for some of you to believe but there are other areas that are being redistricted. Rankin and Bessemer have many economically challenged people, Eastern and NE have changes coming, as well as NW, Jefferson, Summerfield and Oak Ridge-- and many changes for the new Northern, NW, Reedy Fork schools.

Troll Window dressing aka Both Misinformed

"No Andrews is Fifth Closest" is absolutely correct. Beside mapping it, try driving and clocking it sometimes through school zones.

fyi Misinformed

"I was afraid there might be violence." Get a grip! That race card is way too crumbled up by now. I think you are confusing that with the GANGS in our schools that you saw on TV this week.

Tim is not anyone's leader. He is a parent. We are all just parents fighting for High Point to be treated like the rest of the county.

Go for it. Find your own candidate. Put your money were your misinformed mouth is.

There are three EXCELLENT potential candidate names out there now. The only hard part is deciding who is best for the job. They are all so good.

Go back to writing your socialist column in the HPE!

Sensing that there is some tension with respect to whose gonna and not gonna run for the GC BOE in November, here's what I propose:

Let's cast a straw vote to determine who among the potential BOE candidates whose names have been mentioned from time to time on the Chalkboard, namely TimM, GarthH, BarbaraAnn, will have the likeliest chance of getting elected in 2006 to the Board of Education.

Let's get some pre-election excitement going in order to determine who has the most strength to succeed in Nov 2006.

And the winner should be the person that gets all of our support come November 2006. I know I intend to vote early and often on that day.

I know BlairWITCH is voting for Garth.

My vote is for Barbara Ann. Everybody step up and be heard.

Bruce or Jennifer, please keep score.

BUBBA
WE ARE NOT PLAYING THE PRIMARIES GAME

Bubba, it would be nice if you could make all the rules (especially about elections) but...YOU CAN'T.

Hey Pope, Troll, Bubba ...why don't one of YOU run for school board?

...or just run away!

If you're the POPE, I must be Mother T. God helps people who help themselves!!! It is getting a little old with the race card!!!! Hey my neighbor is black and he wants neighborhood schools also. Would you call him a racist? No he's an Uncle Tom!!!!

If you're the POPE, I must be Mother T. God helps people who help themselves!!! It is getting a little old with the race card!!!! Hey my neighbor is black and he wants neighborhood schools also. Would you call him a racist? No he's an Uncle Tom!!!!

Window Dressing, MotherT,

Who among the three contenders for the Chalkboard choice as BOE officers do you intend to vote for?

Will it be:
TimM
GarthH, or
BarbaraAnn

Your participation in this matter as a concerned parent is appreciated.

BUBBA YOU ARE A TROLL TOO. YOU POST ONE WAY AND THEN THE OTHER. WE AREN'T PLAYING YOUR GAME.

Pope aka Troll

It is insulting to use my friend's name.

JeeNAE,

"Post one way or then the other..." Please shed light on this matter.

God bless the child that's got his own, that's got his own.

Actually at the forum a few African Americans spoke. Of those I think two of them spoke for D and one young boy spoke for the choice plan.The others did not have a preference.
I guess map D wins on the African American side.

By the way. Blairwood will be screwed again. But we are used to it. Let get on with it and decide on D. I would rather stay at Andrews than go to Central.

I love our school and I dont want to be bussed either.
Lets just get on with it and decide on a map.

Bubby,

Other candidates are running too. It's obvious that you have a hidden agenda and you want dist. 2 to admit who they are backing. We ain't tellin'. Your plan is foiled Bubba Boy!

BlairWITCH?! Goodness, now Bubba, that just wasn't nice. If you're lovin' Jesus, as your name implies, I'm not sure that your actions are consistent with Jesus' philosophy....

I'll be praying for you, Bubba.

God bless the child that's a hypocrite, that's a hypocrite.

I agree with Blairwhat. Not a nice Bubba Boy. Bubba is a meanie troll.

We ain't tellin. We ain't tellin.

Wait until end of February and place your bets then.

Silent Blair and Central Parent thank you for agreeing no one wants bused. Most of the AfroAmericans are sick of being bused too.

Wow! 5th closets. According to map quest the Grand Dragon lives 6.8 miles from Andrews. Hardly a long trip across town as you want many people to believe. Even Ragsdale the closest school is 4.2 miles. A huge difference of 2.6 miles! Southwest where the Grand Dragon currently is districted is only slightly further than Andrews but he's not complaining about that as long as he can be segregated from people of color. You ingore the fact that there are limited numbers of seats in schools and that the BOE has to make use of available seats where they are located. But you don't care as lomg as you can avoid African Americans. Its about race and you know it!

Barbra Ann or should I say Babar.. no I like Babar... lets call her Blimpy. Blimpy suggests that only new comers be required to drive the extra two miles because she was here first. What a stupid idea. Blimpy you should try walking it you need the exercise! And while you are walking consider the fact that your vote or status is no better than anyone elses just because you were here first. Get out of the 4th grade mindset and forget about the BOE you don't stand a chance! I'm thinking about running my cat to defeat you. At least my cat isn't racist.
The Troll.

Bruce,

Troll's posts are abusive and nasty. These types of posts should be removed. Thats your job. You have done it in the past and its approriate to do it again now.

Abusive and nasty? I learned it from you people. You have insulted Dot, Susan, Dr. Grier and a host of other honorable people. You have lied and continually attacked anyone who doesn't see it your way. Kirk LeJeune and other cowards have even gone as far as threats on other threads. You claim conspiracy behind every iniative to do something positive. You display a complete disregard for the TRUTH. All so you don't have to have your children sit next to an African American in class! How dare you scum suggest I'm abusive. Whats good for the goose is good for the gander. The TRUTH hurts doesn't it.

Troll

troll, I got news for you; my kids goes to Central, and I agree with these people. It's not about sitting next to a child of color; it about having a choice on where you live and where your children go to school. Certain parents should not expect other people's children to be a commodity to fix a school!!! My african american neighbors feel the same way. Are they racist, too?

And you call Dot, Susan, and Grier honorable??? You are kidding, right? Those three are the most corrupted indivduals especially Grier.

Go tell it to the Emerywood folks; they're the ones that don't want certain types of students at their school. Now go away; you are making me ill!

Bruce and Jennifer,

The posts of troll are abusive and hurtful. He/she has crossed the line and is now bullying innocent people with extremely insulting words.

It's time to ban this one. You've done it before for lesser offenses.

It seems to me that 'troll' does not need to be 'censured' any more than other, more regular, flamethrowers here.

He(she) is no more (or less) guilty of being 'abusive and nasty' than those who are abusive and nasty towards certain board members and Dr. Grier and anyone else who takes certain positions. (look no further than the above post which states, "...Those three are the most corrupted indivduals especially Grier...")

Some here can dish it out, but they obviously can't take it.

Some have said they like the wide open give-and-take on this blog because it is not bound by the political correctness of other forums. 'Troll' just seems to be carrying on in the finest Chalkboard tradition by throwing around accusations and innuendo.

Hurts a bit, doesn't it?

Hoggard,

Making comments about public officials is one thing, nasty comments about innocent people is entirely different.

Troll,

my daughter is also at Central. You are too quick to label some of us.

Quest, Am I considered a 'public official' or one of those "innocent people"?

I, too, have been the target of hurtful nastiness by some Chalkboard regulars, but I didn't hear you or anyone else coming to my defense and calling for those posters to be censured.

Double standard?

The Friday before last Susan Mendenhall had a secret meeting with Central parents.

Why does she not meet with Andrews or SW parents?

Troll,

Your reference to "your leader Grand Dragon Tim Mann" is repulsive on many fronts. However, I understand that you need to vent your frustrations. That's the beautiful thing about our country. You can say pretty much anything you want. It's especially easy to do when you post anonomously. I don't take it personally because it's obvious you don't know me.

A couple of points may help you to be more factual in the future.

1. I lead no one other than my dog, Buddy. As a parent I still try to influence my children's actions. As for my wife, it's a 100%/100% partnership. We both try to lead by example.

2. What mapquest fails to show is the makeup of my neighborhood. Starting from the pond (3 houses left) here's the ethnic makeup of my side of the street .... African American family, White widow, White family, Mid-eastern family, me, Asian family, Pakistanie family, White family, White couple, African American family, White family, White couple, African American family. These are my neighbors and my friends. Hence, your prior reference demonstrates your lack knowledge about me and my neighborhood. And, YES, Ragsdale is still my closest school and Andrews is still my 5th closest school.

Lastly, your frustrations may be more productively directed at the source. The source of the problem is a small group of individuals that have no interest in education but rather their interest is how to disrupt the learning environment and draw attention to themselves. The school board hasn't figured how to handle it either, so they grasp at straws and start "shuffling" kids and create new programs that aren't based on research, mostly just theory.

Have a wonderful day. Look around, if you let yourself see it, there are all kinds of good things happening ..... you have to be open to seeing it though!!

David you have a reputation for egging people on and stirring the pot. You do quite fine defending yourself. There is no need for anyone to come to your defense. You have your own blog site podium to preach from.

Troll crossed the line on race issues calling people KKK members. Attacking a well loved pastor of a congregation is way out of line.

To everyone: Obviously this is a very disturbed or desperate individual not getting the map she wants. I strongly suggest we ignore all trolls.

Bruce has already been contacted.

I concur with Tim.

Troll's comments are truly disgusting. You can tell from reading these personal attacks, that Troll knows none of the people she has chosen to attack.

In the end, she has just shot herself in the foot.

People who know Tim, Pastor Kirk and myself know what we stand for and why we continue to fight. That goes for ANYONE who has attacked Garth also. People that know us know very well how we stand on race issues. And Troll's accusations are 180 from the truth.

Anyone can post attack anonymously. It means NOTHING. Each one of us knows the TRUTH and that, in the end, is all that matters.

"Beauty is truth, truth beauty. That is all ye need to know on this earth."

And thank God it is a FREE country, not a socialist society.

DAVID,

I GUESS YOU THINK CALLING PEOPLE KKK MEMBERS, ATTACKING CHRISTIAN PASTORS AND MAKING FUN OF PEOPLE'S APPEARANCE IS ACCEPTABLE???? SAD.

IGNORE,

While there can be no doubt that Tim Mann does not have a racist bone in his body, it just seems strange that some are calling for censure because he was the one most recently attacked.

Like me, Tim is perfectly capable of defending himself, as he has just done. But still the call goes out to ban "Troll".

Why call for a ban when Tim is attacked, but not when it occurs to others?

Defend it as you may, but it IS a double standard.

I wote for Barbara Ann.

"Making comments of innocent people is one thing"
Quest (nuff said)

I guess people like Tim, Barbara Ann, and Kirk.

As Rush Limbaugh would say certain groups of people always resort to personal attacks when they cannot make intelligent comments or debate logically.

Troll must be feeling very outwitted.

David, if you call what I stated about Grier, Dot, and Susans nasty???? YOu tell me why our rep continues to support Emerywood only and Dot, who is an at-large representative, only cares about Central and Grier, well, he only cares about his resume. I did not call them names; therefore,I was NOT abusive OR NASTY!!!!!!! ..... SO DON'T GET YOUR BOXERS IN A KNOT.

David, if you call what I stated about Grier, Dot, and Susans nasty???? YOu tell me why our rep continues to support Emerywood only and Dot, who is an at-large representative, only cares about Central and Grier, well, he only cares about his resume. I did not call them names; therefore,I was NOT abusive OR NASTY!!!!!!! ..... SO DON'T GET YOUR BOXERS IN A KNOT.

Stated number of extra seats do not exist at Andrews.

The numbers change daily even hourly.

It depends on who is doing the asking.

Well Pope Troll, it's a shame you can't spot the biggoted ones when they're right under you nose, but I'll help you out.

It's any of the ones who ask why there are no minority contractors on the job when in fact they are not capable of being bonded.

Or for added bigotry there is nothing like that crazy woman who gets a column in the High Point Enterprise on Saturdays once a month.

Better yet for total hypocracy try the guy over in Greensboro who takes family vacations on the donations of others.

Some people just want lots of attention like me.

MotherT,
Yes, I would term your charges of "corrupted individuals" as nastiness. If you have evidence of corruption, please do us all a favor and see the DA.

None of the three (Susan, Dot or Dr. Grier) ONLY care about the things you say, however I'm sure the things you cit