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More money, more results?

I thought this article might interest some of the readers here, seeing as Guilford County Schools is debating cuts after not getting as much money as requested from the county to run the district in 2006-07. (This is from the Mackinac Center for Public Policy in Michigan.)

Different state. Different funding system. But this could apply to any district in any state.

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moneymoneymoney said:

Oh cry me a river!!!

Stop the smoke screen programs.

stop busing kids around

Complete projects on time and within budget.

Clean out central office!

Be more concerned with education then ego or personal agendas.

Lost Hope For Guilford said:

SOME CONVICTED FELONS STILL WORKING IN SCHOOLS
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That's another article title from this "Mackinac Center for Public Policy". It seems that we have much more in common with Michigan than just money woes...

dawn said:

Did anyone read the rhino times a couple of weeks ago? The yearly posting of gc employee's salaries...

In it was a perfect example of financial waste not to mention an example of the ignorance in central office...

Tony Meachum, former principal demoted to assistant principal, demoted to athletic director receives @$80,000/yr. This man apparently could not cut the mustard, however instead of firing him like most companies would do, he is just demoted down while keeping his salary!!!! That money could go to two more classroom teachers...

There were several examples of financial waste. Many of grier's henchman, I mean IIO's, were on the list. To be honest, they don't do a darn thing. Now grier has sent them out to be administrators.

Least we forget the big man himself...he's worth every penny the taxpayers fork out. HA!

Bubba Luvs Jesus said:

Dawn, appears to me that the central office of GCS is not as heartless as you've depicted them to be in your recent postings on the CB.

Apparently Mr. Meachum has a lot of years invested in education as a result of his salary level and the central office recognizes that experience is an integral factor for a successful operation.

Obviously, the fit as a principal wasn't a win win situation, but mgmt, to their credit, has faith in their employee and feels he's still needed to be a team player, though in a different capacity.

Dawn, employers also make mistakes in placing people in positions. The good ones admit it, correct the problem without resorting such extreme measures as terminations, the decision for which you demand, which makes for a better operation.

Sounds like good mgmt to me. Admit the mistake, reevaluate the employee's potential, and place accordingly.

Stormy said:

Bubba,

You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear, unless you start with a silk pig. Alas, Mr. Meachum doesn't appear to resemble a silk pig.

Nice attempt to spin that one, Bubba, but no cigar. Good management admits hiring mistakes, evaluates employee performance, and parts ways with employees that can't perform, especially having failed in two assignments. It's government that stockpiles employees that can't perform. That is why they constantly have need for more tax funds. Private enterprise has to make a profit, so they are more realistic with employees that aren't a good fit. If they aren't, they put their company at risk of failing. You must be a government manager as you seem to think that way.

Stormy said:

"Mr. Meachum has a lot of years invested in education as a result of his salary level and the central office recognizes that experience is an integral factor for a successful operation."

Bubba, I don't think that Mr. Meachum has a lot of years invested as a result of his salary level, but rather the contrary. His salary level is a result of his years in grade. Further, his experience doesn't appear to be an integral factor in their success, as he keeps getting demoted. For some people, they have 20 years of experience, for others, it's one year of experience, 20 times. the latter would appear to represent Mr Meachum's case. Experience means nothing, if an employee doesn't build applicable skills and knows how and is willing to apply them properly.

Bubba Luvs Jesus said:

You, Dawn, and I don't know the entire facts around the employment history of our Mr. Meachum. As usual, you are engaging in pure conjecture which is a habit quite common on this blog. Apparently central hdqtrs evaluated and felt that Mr. Meachum had characteristics commensurate with another position in the org. Sometimes giving the employer the benefit of a doubt in personnel matters ain't such a bad thing. After all, they're more attuned to the vibes of an employee in contrast to nobodies like most who respond on this blog see a conspiracy behind everything done by the Board & office.

My original point in response to Dawn's post was that in contrast to her several posts about the "insensitive" central office when it relates to personnel matters she contradicts herself by dissing one of the "poor" schlepps who works for the GCS and is getting another opportunity to excell by the "insensitive" central office, and more specifically Dr. Grier.

Never been a government employee who sacrifices much in such areas as low pay to provide necessary services to nobodies like Dawn, you, and lowly me.

Bubba Luvs Jesus said:

Stormy,

In addition, your demeaning reference to people who have answered our governement's call to duty, whether it be as a soldier fighting to keep us free, or the IRS employee who audits our returns in order to keep the coffers full, is most unfortunate, especially in light of the fact that we just recently celebrated our Independence Day.

Lord Hear Our Prayers.

Screwed said:

STOP THE RIDE!!

The twisting and turning Bubba is doing is making me sick!

Stormy said:

Bubba,

If the central office chose to retain the employee because they thought they had some merit, in spite of failing in two assignments, then the employee should have only been retained at a salary commensurate with their new responsibilities. By keeping employees in this manner, it merely causes budget bloat, which you, Dawn, and I have to pay for in form of higher taxes (I assume that you pay taxes, Bubba). And, since we have to pay for government's decisions, we should be able to criticize them. Good management realizes that such practices causes budget bloat, hampering their ability to function effectively. Government doesn't have to be concerned about it, they can just raise taxes to pay for it.

You may be a nobody, but Dawn and I do not consider ourselves as such, thank you very much.

Nice try to deflect the subject with the last post. I'm not going to dignify it by responding, as our troops have nothing to do with the discussion at hand.

Lord Hear Our Prayers - Get Grier Outta Here!

(And Bubba too, if you have room)

Bubba Luvs Jesus said:

Stormy,

You did demean government workers and I quote from your post, "...It's government that stockpiles employees that can't perform."

Sounds pretty demeaning to me.

Buckmtn said:

But after last Thursday night, thanks to our spiritual leader, Billy Yow, there is one less boat anchor on the County payroll. THAT WAS A PRAYER THAT WAS ANSWERED.

See you at the Racism rally tonight Bubba?

Bubba Luvs Jesus said:

Buck,

Absolutely.

I'll be the plump white anemic looking fellow with the kinky hair who'll be driving the white 1992 Volvo station wagon.

Should I reserve seats for you and your better half in order for you to participate in the many discussions pertaining to how racism is currently flourishing in our community as a result of, but not limited too, the actions that occurred that sad Thursday night when a person was fired as a result of his ethnicity?

TV Land said:

Now I know three white, fatties that will be there in volvos. Between them and all the Alstons it's gonna be hard to tell who's who.

Comedy Central said:

All your conjecture only on reason to fire, Bubbie. The only thing sad was to watch this on TV and see how the county presents itself like a comedy show. Any outsider would tune in and run to move elsewhere.

One can go on vacation 2 weeks and nothing changes. Same old "racism, racism and then there is racism". Good ol Guilford County!

Is the rally going to discuss the Deena conflict of interest at the rally with her husband's contracts? What about those "check to quick cash" in black communities?

Boy I can't wait to leave on vacation again!!!

Bubba Luvs Jesus said:

CC,

I agree with you it was sad to watch the unfortunate firing of a man who just three months prior had received a raise and had not been challenged in anyway as to his job performance at that review.

I concur with your observation that any corporation considering to locate to our county would pause in consideration of the lynching that occurred on that fateful Thursday night of a proud African American who had been able to sweep aside the barriers of discrimination only to have his dreams dashed by such narrow minded people like Billy Yow and company.

Really sad.

NEXT! said:

OH MAN! Those words are like music to my ears, "..the firing of a man who just...received a raise..."

..could that happen again? Oh please say that another board in this county could do the same thing?! Just to be fair, it should happen to a white man next...say...a white man that needs to get outta here....

Inquiring Minds said:

Hi Bubba-

I was wondering why Mr. Best's firing in your opinion was racially motivated, but the failed Witch Hunt against Jenks Crayton in the last year or so is not racially motivated.

Did you have an opinion on that or are you to content to jump on the race bandwagon?

LifeaccordingtoDeena said:

I love my many friends like Bubba. Because of their unquestioning attitude I can contimue to steal from those idiots that call themselves honest taxpayers.

They will protect my wrong doing forever!!!!

Comedy Central said:

IM,

BLJ will say "black people can't be racists". That is what they preach in the biased racial healing seminars. You are white. You can't help it. You must have "white guilt" thus resulting in "black anger". That's the latest buzz.

It doesn't matter if your ancesters didn't even live in this country until the turn of the century and worked at menial jobs to improve their lot. You are white, therefore, everything is your fault.

CC,

What is sad is to watch a bunch of commissioners behave like 3 years olds. "I am more articulate and educated than you". Really....."I had wrote that before." I would like to see "uneducated" if this is "educated". It is embarrassing to admit you live in Guilford County after watching these meetings.

You don't have to save your money for the circus. Just turn on Channel 13 every couple weeks. I do admire Steve A and Carolyn C for keeping their cool.

Yeah what about Mr. Crayton??? Found innocent by ALL outside investigations. Oh that's right. He is white so it cannot be racist.

dawn said:

Just a quick response to Bubba...

I am impressed with your ability to twist the facts and create a sob story for central office. In your world, they are interested in the well being of their employees and want what is best for them and the students. WRONG!!

In the real world, the powers that be are just plain ol' dumb not to mention vindictive and mean as he**. Meachum retains his current post for some reason, we will never know.

What I do know is that $80,000/yr for serving as athletic director is ridiculous! Government waste at it's finest!

Has grier ever considered "cleaning house" to raise the $ for his NEWEST plan (get ready there will be more!) MISSION POSSIBLE???

Questions said:

"(get ready there will be more)"

Dawn,

More new plans?

More cleaning house?

or both??

bubba you need a major reality check

dawn said:

More new plans, quick fixes, crazy ideas...

let's see grier thought of the middle college, he thought of algebraic thinking, mission possible, springboard, etc...

he is desperate for a fix! Sadly, he is like a dog chasing his tale.

Bubba Luvs Jesus said:

True, Mr. Crayton's procedures were vigorously evaluated and he was exonerated.

True, Mr. Best's performance evaluation several months ago was positive and received a raise as a result of.

True, when the assist cty mgr (white man) informed the powers that be that he was pursuing other interests, some on the Board rose up against Mr. Best (black man) and began a campaign of disinformation in order to elevate their favorite guy (white man) to that position.

Fact, the circumstances surrounding the firing of Mr. Best were handled in a manner that is consistent with the sad habits of the Old South.

Dawn, I am impressed that central office made a decision in personnel that in their mind would improve the educational quality of our county. Mr Meachum's salary, is probably commensurate with his tenure as well as experience.

I'm not an apologist for the Central office and have felt for sometime that as a result of the acrimony that has spread as a result of a vocal exclusionist minority, namely the NHP bunch, it would be better for Dr. Grier to leave, preferably voluntarily, and get a new face in that position who to know one else's surprise in the rest of the county, would probably agree with his predecessor's policies and continue to implement his recommendations.

Lord Hear Our Prayers.

Spades & Hearts said:

If an asst cty manager (black) was competent, doing his job, not playing golf during budget time, chose to look for a job in a neighboring county AND the cty manager (white) was being let out of his contract because the majority of the commissioners (white & black) wanted to replace a cty manager (white) with an asst cty manager (black) THIS WOULD NOT BE AN ISSUE.

Bubba what is your point about color?

Steve Arnold and others commissioners made it quite clear this was not a racial issue. Any time a black leader is replace the black activists scream out "racism". It sure gets tiring. The race card is getting OLD.

All the commissioners (white & black) voted to hire Mr. Best. They can EQUALLY fire Mr. Best.

The BOE are a bunch of COWARDS said:

I say congratulations to the Commissioners for having the backbone to fire an incompetent individual (black, white or purple). Too bad the Guilford County School Board cannot find the guts to do the same.

notguilty said:


Hey Bubba,

You need to read "White Guilt" by Shelby Steele.

And when you are done with it, pass it on to Deena, Skip, and Bruce.

Martin Phillips said:

Dear School Board,

As stated in the Rhino times (a real newspaper) Guilford County has arguably the worst school system in the whole state of North Carolina. As well as having
the three lowest scoring High Schools we have nine of the 44 schools that Gov. Mike Easley considers the worst.
The real pity is that this is not just a spur of the moment thing. Most, if not all of these schools have been failing at these levels (below 50% pass rate) for at least the last five years and what is amazing is that you have allowed this continue year after year. You spend most of your time discussing diversity,
minority contracts and suspension rates with very little time discussing how to educate these lost children. What is even worse is that while these thousands of children fail every year, you pat yourselves and Dr.Grier on the back about a few tens of children that pass in those innovative early colleges.
For those members who have been in this job for several years now its time for you to resign and let someone else try. If you don’t want to do that then fire Dr.Grier as soon as possible because, ladies and gentlemen, if we have the worse system in the state then it stands to reason that we have the worst Superintendent!

If you can't pee, get off the pot said:

Our schools and our superintendent are a direct reflection of our school board.

Are you proud of yourselves?

Accordingto said:

According to the Rhino Andrews passed about 35% of its kids. Smith passed only 45 which is lower than last year.
Deena the Smith rep is a disgrace. She lines her own pockets and talks about racism all the time. Never once have I heard her talk about Smith!! She does not represent those children, she only represents herself. She should resign NOW!!!!!

readtherhino said:

When will the N&R report the truth as the Rhino does. Morgan and Jennifer pick up a copy read and learn!!

Info said:

Jennifer,
from what is being stated here there is school passing rate data available. Could you please make it available via a link of somekind?

Lackofrespect said:

Apparently Grier showed a total lack of respect for the State team at Andrews. If I were the state I would suspsend him!

Bubba Luvs Jesus said:

S & H,

The commissioners actions in my opinion spoke otherwise.

A good man was given the heave ho for no other reason than the color of his skin.

For this purpose, Mr. Best should seek reparations for this wrong.

Buckmtn said:

How about the fact that Mr. Best was apparently on the 8th fairway at a golf course in Chapel Hill when he should have been in a budget meeting?

Or how about the fact that Mr. Best was not consisently providing information as requested?

Were these acts of racism?

As a taxpayer, I believe I'm entitled to reparations for Mr. Best not performing on the job.

Bubba Luvs Jesus said:

Buck,

All disinformation as a result of some on the Board wanting to replace Mr. Best with the other guy.

Ms. Coleman pretty much summed up the mess accordingly without calling names and launching into hysteria like Yow, Alston, Davis, and in some respects, Arnold, and I quote from her, "It was a high tech lynching of a Black Man."

And the same goes to the actions committed by a vocal minority who over the years have opposed Dr. Grier's learned recommendations at every stage. The NHP group want's to hijack and influence the Guilford County education system in order to maintain a segregated school system for our kids.

Numbersgame said:

Bubba,

I'm going to put this as simply as I can:

The North High Point schools were NEVER segregated. The data is all the evidence needed. Look up the demographic data for all the North High Point schools for the last several years. You know not what you speak.

Numbersgame said:

Furthermore, the only segregated schools in GCS are in the NW part of the county and in the city of Greensboro. While you're doing the research, look at the data for Dudley, Smith, and Northwest high schools.

Buckmtn said:

And what Alston, Davis and Coleman attempted and failed at last year would have been a high-tech or low-tech lynching of the Tax Director?

Let me see if I can come up what is common for these three individuals and it has nothing to do with skin color....

One has defaulted on loans to numerous to mention at the expense of the taxpayers and has had several instances of paying taxes late.

One has been sucking on the taxpayer teete for his entire adult life and has a history of paying taxes late.

One has questionable real estate transactions via Project Homestead.

I would love to hear any of them utter the word "reparation".

notguilty said:

Go, Buckmtn, go!!!! Take that, Bubba!!!

And go ask the school board why Dudley, Smith and Northwest still remain one color?

Bubba Luvs Jesus said:

Buck,

You are absolutely right.

I also don't condone the behavior of either Alston & Davis and don't feel that they are worthy of Commissioner status just as I don't feel Yow is.

However, for all of their faults, Alston & Co was on target in declaring the firing of Mr. Best as what it really was, a concerted effort by the Whites to get rid of a Black man as cty mgr. How Skip & Davis went about proclaiming it was unfortunate and immaturish just as Billy's response back was, well just being Billy.

Unfortunately, unlike Mr. Jenks, Mr. Best was not given an opportunity to address the recent "issues of concern by Billy & Co." that arose because it was a sealed deal, and his hand was left out.

Buck, do you agree with me that a change needs to occur at the Commissioner level, and more specifically Alston & Yow need to go?

Stormy said:

This blog is called the Chalkboad, which means that it is dedicated to public school topics, so let's get off of the discussion about the county commissioners and Willie Best.

Let's talk about what is holding the public schools back...Terry Grier. As Martin Phillips pointed-out, our schools are the worst in the state. Terry Grier has been the superintendent of this distict for several years, and he should be held accountable for the conditon of the schools. It is time for the people of this county to demand his dismissal. It is far overdue. The job is not getting done, and we are spending far to much of our tax money for the worst system in the state. Terry Grier is not an elected official, he is appointed, just as Willie Best was. If Willie Best can be terminated for not getting the job done, then so can and should Terry Grier.

Stormy said:

Below is an extract from the article with which Jennifer started this strand:

"The fact that measures of educational results have been stagnant or even slightly declining over the past several decades ought to alert Michigan citizens that simply hiking school spending – as we’ve already been doing for decades – will do nothing by itself to improve learning for Michigan’s children. In fact, increased spending distracts us from addressing the lack of incentives for public schools to fulfill their most vital mission: the quality instruction of students."

How true is this, and how do we get the county commissioners, the school board, and Terry Grier to understand and accept this as fact? More spending doesn't improve educaton, but perhaps even distracts from it. More is less. Are you listening Terry Grier? Forget the avalanche of new programs every year, and let's make the ones on the table work or dispense with them.

Bubba Luvs Jesus said:

You really don't get it do you Stormy.

The circumstances surrounding the firing of County Manager Mr. Best, a Black man, and events surrounding the Board of Educations decision several years ago to integrate education at High Point's Andrews & Central are all related.

We are witnessing the rejection of integration in our community. The BOE was fully aware of the position that our schools were in and when they offered a solution to address the problems in High Point's school system's 3 High Schools (the most egregious case) all they encountered was a push back from the predominantly white neighborhoods who declared your kids aren't welcome in our school.

So I disagree with you and argue that there is a pattern developing of a racial divide in our community.

Buckmtn said:

Bubba, you need to speak for yourself when you talk about a racial divide in the community. Maybe there is a divide in your community, there isn't in the community my family lives in. My closet neighbors are as follows:

Accross the street - Hispanic family, African-American family, white retired couple.

Next door - Hispanic family that my family is always doing things with.

Remainder of block that wraps around corner - white family, African-American family, white family, African American family.

Now some of these other families are just as upset both presently and in the past over the School Board because they moved to get away from the problems and it turns out the problems followed them over the past 2 or 3 years.

Oh yeah, one other thing, none of these African American families or Hispanic families bothered to go the Racism Rally last Friday night because they think the Alstons (both the Greensboro kind and the High Point kind) are a joke.

Stormy said:

Bubba,

You're right, I don't get your spin, because it is pure bovine excrement.

First, Willie Best's firing was distasteful and unprofessional, but it wasn't about race, in spite of what Alston and Davis wanted it to be about. (When you can't win on merit, start accusing others of racism.)

Second, it has nothing to do with the atrocity perpetrated in High Point two years ago. Dot Kearns' Student Redistribution Plan was about race, but not as you describe. The issue was not about desegregating Southwest, as it was already desegregated. The plan was about "fixing" Central. And, the Southwest parents' concern was not about black kids coming to Southwest, it was about their kids being shipped across the county, something that Greensboro parents would never condone for their kids.

High Point's racial segregation was by no means the most egregious. Dudley is 99+% black and Northwest is 90+% white, so if you want to desegregate county schools, you have to start there, where it is the most egregious.

Bubba, get over it. This county will continue to slide in its economic development efforts as long as "race" is always the subject de jour. Surrounding counties are loving Guilford's distraction while they get all of the economic development. What business wants to relocate to a county that is doing things like this and has the worst schools in the state? This county has made racism an art form. Bubba, that's what I do get, but you don't.

Stormy said:

Bubba,

Which school board member are you? Or, are you Terry Grier or one of his minions? You fight too hard to defend the actions of this school system, including using b.s. spin, to be an honest citizen.

Bubba Luvs Jesus said:

Stormy,

Thank you for commending my perserverance. Ridding our community of divisive attitudes can be exhausting.

Dudley's disparate percentages are the result of White flight from the inner city. Northwest's disparate percentages are the consequences of that White Flight to the suburbs, such as NHP.

When two of the three High Schools in a system are broken, extreme and courageous measures are necessary to fix them. Originally the BOE enacted a sensitive and bold solution to the failing school system in HP. Unfortunately the pressures of the exclusionist NHP group defeated the program and has resulted in one of the more divisive issues our community has faced for some time.

Lord Hear Our Prayers.


Bubba Luvs Jesus said:

Buck,

You love your diverse neighbors so much that one of the first things you did when they moved in next door was to take your kids out of the public school system, the same one that educates your diverse neighbors, and enrolled your Johnny & Susie in the local institution of exclusionist lilly white education, the local Christian private school.

Yeah, Buck, that diversity is a great thing, as long as it ain't happening in YOUR child's school.

Buckmtn said:

OK Bubba, you also have two broken schools in GSO. Why not apply the same repair techniques in GSO that were going to be applied in HP?

Are you saying that the good citizens of NW GSO and the Market St. and Friendly Ave. in the Sunset Hills area of GSO would react in a more dignified manner to the abduction of their children?

By the way, I didn't "white flight" anywhere. I moved from Sunset Hills to NHP just because I liked the location back in the late '80's.

Buck said:

Oh, hi Bubba, I didn't see you were leaving me another message.

No actually when my Hispanic friends next door realized how Dr. Grief, and Dottie, and Soossieee, and Deena, and Duncan were turning the SW district into a new version of "Animal House" they began inquiries into HPCA and Immaculate Heart of Mary. Since they are members of the local catholic church they are probably going to shift their children to IHM once they are Middle School age.

So what kind of comment do you have for the Hispanic family who is pursuing similar options to my family?

Finally the African American family I previously referred to actually won the lottery sweepstakes from a couple of years ago and got to stay at SW.
What should they have done, refused their "winnings" and instead said "oh no wait, I want to go to Central" Or, " I want to go to Andrews"?

How do you explain when the African American family doesn't volunteer to be part of the solution either? The school system could have used their "non-free and reduced lunch child" just as much as our 'non-free and reduced lunch child".

Bubba Luvs Jesus said:

Let me see.

NHP has 2 of 3 High Schools that are failing. That's a 66% issue of concern.

The rest of GSO has 2-3 of 23 High Schools that in your words are "broken". That's a 10% issue of concern.

Granted, any school that's broken is of concern, but there's a big gulf between the two systems.

Buck, for an urban setting such as ours with so many challenges related to a diverse population, 10% ain't good, but we're not at the point where we need to replace the cook.

Now that 66% HP figure, Buck I'm sorry but your shaky argument sort of melts away under those statistics that, might I say, are unimpeachable and without reproach. High Point is in BIG trouble. BIG trouble. And as a result has brought the attention of the big dogs in Raleigh down on all of us.

Placing your kids in exclusionist educational settings ain't helping the matter either. I implore you to bring them back to the melting pot that has made our society what it was yesterday and what it can be today. Let them enjoy the diversity that strengthens us.

Stormy said:

Bubba,

If we are witnessing a pushback on integration in our community as you said, then why shouldn't we force a choice plan upon Dudley and Northwest? Forget why the situation occurred, what are we going to do to change it? The problem is that parents at Dudley and Northwest like it the way it is. The school board won't buck either one with a busing program. Remember, Dudley's academic achievment is in the pits just like Andrews and Central. If busing white kids there and black kids to Northwest would solve the problem, why not do it? I guess your answer is that the Dudley and NOrthwest parents are racists and don't want their kids bused to another school?

Stormy said:

Earth to Bubba..

The three schools in High Point are Guilford County Schools, just like Dudley, Smith, and Northwest. There is no 66%. There are no "two systems". Your math is fuzzy. Schools in this county were consolidated over 10 years ago. Any solutions to "fix" schools should be implemented across the board. You are dealing bovine excrement again, Bubba. Surely, you will support a busing plan for Dudley, smith, and Northwest as a pushback against segregation in Greensboro, won't you? Surely, you aren't a racst, Bubba?

You didn't answer whether you are a board member, Tery Grier, or one of Grier's minions. Actually, you avoided answwering that question.

Buckmtn said:

Bubba, I see Stormy took care of most of the errors in your statements while I was at lunch.

How in the world are you taking all of the other high schools in Guilford County and calling them Greensboro schools? For starters, I'm sure the people over at Ragsdale would love that one.

You have missed the grand plan of Dot Kearns when one day the kids closest to Andrews are bused to NW, and the kids of NW are bused to SE and so on and so on.

Bubba please get a new deck of cards, we're all getting tired of your dealing from the bottom of your race deck.

Kindest regards

Bubba Luvs Jesus said:

Buck,

It's sad that you and Stormy don't recognize this as a problem of community, the HP kind and instead misplace the blame as a county wide problem. HP ain't Greensboro. Greensboro has it's problems but HP is in deep trouble with respect to it's three High Schools. It may be a county wide system, but the problem at issue is more related to the community of HP. So please discontinue trying shift the blame when it mainly concerns our community of HP.

It takes a village.

Stormy said:

Bubba,

Quit slinging your bovine excrement. What do you mean place the blame as a county wide problem? What blame? One more time slooowly, Bubba...what problem are you trying to solve or blame are you trying to afix? Bubba, are you confused or just stupid? I'm through wasting my time on you. My advice to you, Buck, is to do the same. It's a waste of times to try to match wits with an unarmed idiot.

Bubba Luvs Jesus said:

Buck,

What's the diversity breakdown at the HPCA school your child attends?

Since you're proud of the diversity route your neighborhood has taken and in order to show your support for diversity you elected to withdraw your child from the same school your diverse neighbor's kids were attending and put them in a non-diverse setting. Sounds sort of hypocritical to me, Buck.

I looked at the HPCA website and saw only lilly white WASP looking children as well as faculty. You want to revisit your statement about supporting diversity in the schools?

Buckmtn said:

Stormy, I think Bubba is going to force me to try this Pepe Lopez you keep talking about.

One last time, my wife and I made a decision about the QUALITY OF EDUCATION when our daughter moved to HPCA last year. I believe my Hispanic neighbors made the same decision when they elected to go the IHM route, I find it curious that Bubba chooses to ignore that part of my statement, perhaps he doesn't view Hispanics as a minority, I don't know and I really don't care.

Anyway Bubba, since you are so fascinated with the HPCA website please go look at the ICON for Edline. You are not going to be able to get very far without a user ID and password, but in a nutshell what Edline does is allow you as a parent to monitor everything that your STUDENT is doing in every class. If my daughter hasn't turned in a hopework assignment on time, I know about it and I'm calling her when she gets home in the afternoon.

So I am very sorry if it offends Bubba that I am involved on a day-to-day basis in my daughter's education. Dot Kearns and Dr. Grief didn't want my involvment or my wife's involvement; all they wanted was our daughter's non-free and reduced lunch rearend in a seat over at HP Central. Too bad, the Hammer & Sickle beliefs of Mrs. Kearns don't fly in our household.

Buckmtn said:

Oh Bubba, one last thing. I double checked the diversity of HPCA.....

100% of of the student population DOES NOT have a criminal record. No 2nd chances, let a lone 3rd and 4th chances.

I hope someone hears your prayers.

quest said:

And as long as we live in a free country, Buckmtn and any other parent can choose non-public education for their children.

God Bless America!

Bubba Luvs Jesus said:

Shame that a Christian institution would prevent entrance to even those it's mission statement declare's it's moral Spiritual guide so lovingly embraced.

Jesus is really proud of you Buck.

Lord Hear Our Prayers.

Buckmtn said:

Thanks Quest, the strange thing is it took the combined efforts of the School Board and Dr. Grief to convert me to a believer in private schooling options. The only thing I feel guilty about is that I wasn't doing my duty as my daughter's father until the last couple of years when it came to involvement with her education, at least not to the magnitude I'm involved now.

If all schools within Guilford County were treated equally I would feel completely different about the situation; unfortunately as Bruce Davis would say, "there is a double standard here that even Stevie Wonder could see!!!"

Oh wait a minute, did I just quote who I think I did??

Stormy said:

Hey, Buck, Doug Clark is advocating private school vouchers of $5,000 over at his blog. That would be nice, wouldn't it? Get your daughter a good education, and get most of it paid for with your tax dollars. Wait...that's what GCS is supposed to be doing...

Stormy said:

Buck, one other thing...I read that Deena is driving a new Lexus. Did school board members give themselves another pay raise? Um.....

Freedom said:

Buck,

It's great to know there are parents like you who are so involved in their child's education. Much good came out of the HP Choice Plan. Parents all over High Point got truly INVOLVED in education. They realized what actually goes on daily in our schools. Some good; some not so good.

And when you see intense public displays of affection by two lesbian teenagers at a local high school football game, hear the nasty language and the disrespect that is continually tolerated in some of our public schools (among other things) you should be very proud of your decision to raise your daughter in a positive environment.

As Quest says "God Bless America". It is your right to send your child to any school you choose. (I don't know why this bothers Bubba so much?) In the end you only have your Higher Power to answer to for the kind of parent you choose to be. You can raise your child how YOU choose.

Yep you did quote Bruce D. But remember we have always known as several board members/politicians have said "High Point is different". Go figure. It IS on record as "Guilford" County Schools. But Stevie Wonder can see it's not the same in old HP.

Buck said:

Stormy, I wonder if these vouchers have any "strings attached." If there are strings attached Dougie can keep his money. It's my preference that when the Headmaster says jump, everyone asks "how high?"

Maybe that new Lexus of Deena's is a gift from her boyfriend/husband/significant other/bootie call, whatever. Oh wait that would make it a gift from the taxpayers too. No wonder she wanted the minimum threshold of non-compete projects raised.

I'm Touched said:

Oh that's so sweet.

Broke BuckMtn has moral support from many of us. We want you to know we got your back.

notguilty said:

Bubba,

You are barking up the wrong tree on this blog.

I resent your statement saying lilly white when referring to HPCA. And you call NHP racist! Who is the racist now, Bubba!

And your statement it takes a village. Well, I don't mind helping the less fortunate, but I will not raise another person's child! It is about time people take responsibility for their own children and maybe if they did their children would be doing better in school.

Remember God helps those who helps themselves!!!

NoGuiltHere said:

Buckmtnman

You have a super kid. We know you must be proud of your decision. The proof is in the pudding.

It only takes being in the wrong village to influence a child in a negative manner. As Anita said she would rather see a student suspended if 10 other students can get educated. Put the blame where it starts. It starts with the parents.

If you can't raise them don't have them.

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