Retreat in review...
The Guilford County Board of Education discussed more than a dozen topics during its Saturday retreat. I wasn't able to elaborate on all of them in the paper so here is a breakdown of the more interesting topics, in no particular order:
* The board approved Page High's application to implement an International Baccalaureate program in 2008 (so far, Grimsley, High Point Central and Smith have the pre-collegiate curriculum). This would potentially reverse the migration of Page students to Grimsley to take IB courses (Principal Terry Worrell said Saturday that 91 students in the Page district are in Grimsley's pre-IB and IB programs). Page would also expect to draw students from Eastern, Northeast and Northern high schools.
The transition would not be cheap: Page has already spent $1,000 submitting an "intent to apply" to the International Baccalaureate Organization. Costs for the two authorization years would cost an estimated $190,000 and after that $175,000 to cover fees, supplies and staff development, according to figures submitted at the retreat.
* Should Guilford County Schools adopt more year-round schools? Hearing officer John Wright presented to the board Wake County's plan, noting the pros and cons of adopting that system. Saturday's discussion was motivated by overcrowding and the rise in costs to add mobile classrooms, which has been $18 million to $20 million over the past five years, Superintendent Terry Grier said. At this point, district officials are advocating the switch in elementary schools, giving parents the choice to enroll their children there or at a school with a traditional schedule. (Wake County has been experiencing significant resistance in the year-round movement.)
"We know that some folks would be upset (by the year-round schedule)," Grier said. "But we've spent an awful lot on trailers."
Board members Nancy Routh and Amos Quick said they agreed with the year-round concept, either for educational or building utilization reasons.
Routh said: "It is not using resources wisely when you spend millions of dollars on construction and then close up for two months out of the year."
School officials estimate about 8,000 elementary school children would be out of school at any one time if the district adopted Wake County's 45-15 plan.
*Should GCS continue block scheduling? The board did not come to a conclusion, instead leaving it up to staff to set up guidelines for if and when a school could change from offering four classes a day to six classes a day and vice versa. Grier said it costs about $300,000 to switch schedules because of textbooks and other costs.
Grimsley, Northwest, Western and Page have traditional schedules this year. Smith and Central have also expressed an interest in converting from block schedules.
"Whether you do it one way or another it really doesn't matter to us," Grier said.
He said that the only conclusive research on the schedules shows that traditional schedules most benefit students taking AP courses.
The district decided to move high schools to block schedules before Grier came to the district. Principals argue that blocks allow them to reschedule students in failing classes the next semester instead of waiting until the next year, he said.
"Quite frankly, I don't see that as often as I hear that," Grier said.
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If Page wants to draw students from Eastern and
Northeast, just ask the school board to quit
busing kids from the apartments in your back yard
to these schools. You know the ones that can
see the football lights. Oh...I forget..you don't
want these kids... The lower income impoverished
possibly lower scoring kids.
You want to draw the High IQ/high dollar kids which are the only ones that you would draw into Page with this program!! It is a way for these schools to hand pick the students they want!! This way you can bypass the lower income apartments and come out
to the Stoney Creek and Lake Macintosh $300.000
homes and get your kids.
Southwest..why haven't you thought of this!!!!!
Posted on September 25, 2006 3:22 PM
Shouldn't this program have been placed at Eastern, instead of Page? Page is close enough to Grimsley for students to make that trip. It would be no further than students travelling from Northwest or Southwest to Central. It seems that the eastern part of the county should have a program, unless it's always about Greensboro, and the county and High Point go to #$%@. For that matter, doesn't Northwest have needs of such programs as well? There are over 2,000 students there. I'm sure there would be enough students to fill an IB Program.
Posted on September 25, 2006 5:17 PM
They won't put a program like IB at NW because it might actually draw more students, and of course the intergration that having the program at Central creates would not happen. Very few NW students take IB because they have to go to Central, which from my house is about 25 miles, Grimsley is 8-10 miles. No one want to drive that far. I don't know where Page has the room, because during the last redistricting, they couldn't leave the Rankin kids there since they were so 'crowded'
Posted on September 25, 2006 6:46 PM
Stormy, stormy, stormy....the "needs" of the students??? What are you tallking about??!!!! The needs of the students in Guilford County? C'mon! There is no such concern!
Programs are strategically placed in this system for two reasons and two reasons only!!
1.. To draw whites TO a school..
2. To draw whites FROM a school..
Poor Stormy, you thought the Guilford county "School" system was actually a system for TEACHING?!! My you have a lot to learn. I'm sorry to be the one to tell you but the Guilford System is to racially balance the county! Learning is not a priority at all! Just visit the GC website--DIVERSITY--that's #1.
Now go away Stormy and quit trying to make sense of this well thought out regime.
Posted on September 25, 2006 9:19 PM
Sorry, I lost my head there for a minute. I forgot that we were talking about the Guilford County School system. Gee, we do need some new leadership in this organization to remind it why it exists. Isn't the board actually called the BOARD of EDUCATION? when are going to start doing some educatin'?
Posted on September 25, 2006 11:46 PM
School Board,
It's about time that an IB or Early
College program is actually convenient for
students in the county. It doesn't make
sense to put so many next to each other and
it's not fair to "all" of the students of
Guilford County.
The only way to make room for students at
Page for a specialized high IQ student only
program would be to bus more students out
of Greensboro..
Look out students that can hear the Page band practicing at night..unless you are in the top 10% of your class..you will be on the next bus out of here!!!!!
Formal students of Page, unless you have a car -
say goodbye to
-Participating in sports, band, clubs
-School dances
-Parent/teacher conferences
-Getting a ride if you miss the bus
-Being invited to the after event get-togethers
-All the things that make being in high school a lifetime memory
-Goodbye lifetime friends
Posted on September 26, 2006 12:06 AM
"All the things that make being in high school a lifetime memory"
It's a selective memory, always. This is precisely the mythology that has led American schools into being third-rate. The rest of the industrialized world has left us in the dust academically because we cling to the factory-output model of high school that emphasizes sports and popularity, etc. over hard learning. The IB programs and Early College will always be for the elite few, because by middle school, our kids have been coached into expecting constant entertainment value for their school experience.
I drove or rode the bus close to 15 miles each way for high school. Still managed to perform in school plays, stay late to work on art projects, etc. But sports and the constant drumbeat of road games, practices, and loss of time for REAL academics would have smashed any chance at college. So be it. The selective memory I mentioned usually leads people to gloss over the vast amount of pain and recrimination many, many students face day-in, day-out at school. It's the mandatory "pecking-order" stage of social development in the US.
Why do you think home-schooled students surpass their age-peers in so many tests and go on to better colleges, careers, etc?
Of course, all that posturing and putting-down kids learn as they make (similarly-well-heeld or economically-middle-class, etc.) friends can help those who go into corporate business later in life.
Posted on September 26, 2006 8:16 AM
But the low income minorities being bused in this county have little to no chance of going to college without an athletic scholarship.
Posted on September 26, 2006 9:49 AM
Freddy,
By saying that IB programs are only for the elite, you reinforce the point that One IB was making. Elite means persons of the highest class, which one would assume at Page that would mean Irving Park children. In no way is the IB program only for privileged children. You obviously don't understand the purpose of the program. It's to provide a challenging and rigorous educatonal experience for all children, regardless of class. Establishing an IB program at Page for Irving Park children only provides an IB Bubble that would separate them from the "regular" kids there. Noting that Page is now well above 50% minority school, it is obvious that this is an attempt to establish an IB Bubble there, such as has been done at Central for Emerywood children. It would seem that this is only an effort to try to bring Irving Park children back to the public schools by providing them a separate, protected educational opportunity. Is this what our public schools have become, low-performing schools for the middle and high poverty classes and IB Bubbles for the children of the elite?
Posted on September 26, 2006 10:23 AM
Stormy,
Patent that one - "IB Bubble"
GREAT recap of the real truth!
Posted on September 26, 2006 11:20 AM
"IB Bubbles" - (loving this one) and Early College" will always be for the elite few because the students that are selected to participate in these programs are selected by "the elite few".
We were told that students from Rankin could not
attend Page last year because there was no room
at Page. They want have to worry about buses, because we could walk to school.
Where is this space coming from that Page will use for the IB program in which students would apply to attend? Will they only allow Page students to apply? Will they bus more students away to make room?
Will they let Rankin students in first or have you already forgot about us? Which one is it??
Rankin wants to come home!!!!
Posted on September 26, 2006 11:56 AM
Rankin,
I'll bet that the Page IB program will be limited to Page students.
Posted on September 26, 2006 12:24 PM
Numbersgame,
Oh, I don't think so. They would likely welcome elite students from Northern. Summerfield is the home to some elites, you know.
Posted on September 26, 2006 12:43 PM
Stormy,
You mean Page would draw its IB students from Page, Northern, Northwest?
Central would draw its students from Central, Andrews, Southwest.
Grimsley would draw its students from Grimsley, Western, Ragsdale?
Then Smith would draw its students from everywhere else?
Posted on September 26, 2006 1:55 PM
Numbersgame,
Sounds about right as to what this school board would do. It's called cherry-picking.
Posted on September 26, 2006 2:00 PM
On second thought, ignore Northwest in this plan; it's what the school board always does.
Posted on September 26, 2006 2:02 PM
Actually I think Numbers Game has it right about IB draw. For years there were only 2 IB, Grimsley and Central. Smith was added a couple of years ago (One of the worst schools in the state, yet has an IB program) and now Page.. Northern and Northwest will feed into Page (they are the closest) not sure about NE, should probably still be Page; but my guess is Eastern, NE and SE would feed into Smith. Does anyone know for sure?
NW has feeds into Central currently.
Posted on September 26, 2006 5:09 PM
I heard that Page High School was approved as another IB site. It would receive IB students from Northern High, Northeast High, Eastern High and, of course, itself, Page High. Grimsley would receive IB students from Northwest High, Western High and Dudley High and itself. This is a change because Northwest and Western students were districted to go to High Point Central if they wanted IB. Smith IB receives Southeast High, Southern High, Ragsdale High and itself and High Point Central receives Southwest High, Andrews High and itself. I understand this feeder pattern will begin next year. They will grandfather students already in a school.
Posted on September 26, 2006 10:26 PM
Thanks!
Posted on September 27, 2006 7:33 AM
jwg,
Thanks for pulling out that information. I just got my hands on a copy of it today.
Here are feeder patterns old vs. new:
Grimsley
Existing: Dudley, Eastern, Page, NE, Grimsley
New: Dudley, NW, Western, Grimsley
Central
Existing: Andrews, SW, Western, NW, Central
New: Andrews, SW, Central
Smith
Existing: Ragsdale, Southern, SE, Smith
New: Ragsdale, Southern, SE, Smith
Page
Existing: None
New: Eastern, Northern, NE, Page
Posted on September 27, 2006 7:17 PM