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2003 bond update

If you were a little bit confused about the back and forth between the school board and commissioners over the remaining 2003 bond money, the district's latest cash flow forecast may (or may not) help put things into perspective.

Dr. Grier and his staff have said they believe county finance director Brenda Jones Fox clouded discussions of the bond money and hurt the district's chances of getting certificates of participation to finance the new Eastern Guilford High School. Jones notified county manager David McNeill in late April that the county had $121 in unspent bond proceeds to fund Guilford County Schools construction projects. But Grier thought the district had only $31 million in unspent funds and on Tuesday, Grier told school board members that Fox had sold more bonds than what the district currently had bills for.

Grier also said Fox announced in a recent commissioner meeting that she was "having problems with the IRS" because of profit she was making from the selling of the bonds (arbitrage). Fox denied to the N&R that she is in trouble with the IRS. When I checked with the Institute of Government at UNC Chapel Hill, I was told the Local Government Commission has to approve the selling of bonds and it wouldn't do it so that the county could make a profit. (exhale)

If you look at the cash flow forecast, you can see that the district expects to spend an additional $128.3 million over the next 2-3 years for remaining 2003 bond projects. Half of those unfinished projects are due next year. The timelines let you know how much wiggle room the district has to route 2003 bond funds to help pay for a new Eastern.

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Parent said:

Is anyone else really confused yet??


Anonymous said:

Parent,

Not sure what the message is here either, other than Grier wants more wiggle room.

The Real Truth said:

The trouble with the IRS would result from bonds being issued (essentially borrowed money) at a low interest rate and then those funds being invested (invested until they are needed) in income producing investments that earned a higher rate of return than interest rate on the bond. That would result in a profit. If you recall the interest rate environment was very favorable (low) when the bonds were sold. Rates are now higher so the cash being held (from the sale of the bonds) is earning a higher return than the bond interest cost. While it wasn't the intention for an arbitrage(illegal) situation to have occurred it actually benefits us. Unfortunately it won't offset the skyrocketing cost of construction. In order to avoid arbitrage Fox should have waited until the funds were needed before the bonds were sold. That would cost us more because we would have to pay a higher rate but would have avoided some problems with the Feds.

The district shouldn't spend those funds from the 2003 bond to rebuild Easstern. They are obligated to the taxpayers to finish the unfinished 2003 bond projects with that money. Eastern should be re-built with certificates of participation as Grier proposed. As usual the commissioners are just playing games.

The newly proposed bond is badly needed to relieve over-crowding and poor conditions at schools. Its crucial that we pass the new bond.

The Real Truth a.k.a. Chief Financial Officer

Gatecity Keeper said:

So now the Real Truth has appointed himself the Chief Financial Officer? Of what? The morally bankrupt?

My neighbors see no reason to pass any new bonds until certain key School Board members are replaced in the '08 election. Why put more money in the hands of the current School Administrators and allow them to mismanage the funds, AGAIN?


Stormy said:

Joe,

C'mon. "They are obligated to the taxpayers to finish the unfinished 2003 bond projects with that money." Was Grier "obligated" when they used money from the 2003 bond that was intended for Ragsdale for other projects? No. Grier specifically stated that they never promised to do all of the projects on the bond list. So, why is he morally obligated now? The answer is that he is not. It meets his needs to get the money in his hands now. Money that he would not have to pay back later.

It's not the commissioners that are playing games. It's Grier and the school board. They are past masters of game playing. Grier and the board are going to have to build more trust with the taxpayers and public before they are going to willingly hand over $1/2 billion of bond funds to them.

HUH said:

Real Truth, aka Joe, EK, or Joe or Vickie

you have us totally confused now. a few weeks ago you said you would not support the bonds and would have the NAACP of HP not support them either.

WHY THE CHANGE OR HEART?

is this another person posing as the RT of recent weeks?

SW Parent said:

RT

I thought you said you would not support the new bond because it gave money to SWH?

Baaby J said:

If RT says he is supporting the bonds, it would make some here more likely NOT to support the bonds which may be just what he wants.

Smooth as cornrows....I mean cornsilk....I mean silk!

Stormy said:

Hey, you guys are right. This doesn't sound like the old hatemonger and racist, Real Truth. This post actually sounds somewhat educated, and there are no hate-filled and racist remarks about North High Point, Southwest, or even Bob Jones. I also noticed that the post said "That would cost us more because we would have to pay a higher rate but would have avoided some problems with the Feds." Us? Who is us? So, is this poster really Sharon Ozment posing as Real Truth?

Gary US Bonds said:

Joe you stood before the school board a few weeks ago and threated to sue if you, Vickie and Bernita didn't get your way on the real choice plan. I think you mentioned there that you would not support the bonds. Let's see Emma's names is on the NAACP HP stationery.

So are you, Emma, your wife and Bernita now supporting the bonds?

Did Dot call you and tell you to support the bonds?

You Rock Baby J said:

Baaby J

I don't go to Bob Jones but I pray to you just like those folks in Talladega Nights.

The Real Truth said:

SW Parent,

I changed my mind! Its my perogative. Who knows I might change it again before the vote comes? BOE hasn't actually finalized the projects yet.

Not supporting the bond just hurts kids its that simple. Not supporting the bonds won't make the schools any safer, not supporting the bonds won't get rid of Dr. Grier or Dot. It will just hurt kids. So you choose, hurt kids or support the bond. Looks like your leader Garth is going to support the bond. Isn't that what you elected him to do? He's also pretty cozy with Grier and tool those stickers off his car. I guess he changed his mind too!

Our school system is growing and older schools have been neglected too long. Having said that, I think the BOE can use bond money more wisely by considering making sure that existing facilities are used to capacity before we build. We can also find ways to reduce the cost of construction. Instead of making accusations, enventing conspiracies we should be helping the BOE make tough choices so that we can get the most for our money.

If you want to cast blame; blame the run-away residential development that has strained our infrastructure. When I drive home on Skeet Club the traffic is horrendous. The Barrow road intersection is just plain dangerous. I've seen numerous wrecks there. City Planners and City Council are the real culprits. They cannot say no to developers.

The Real Truth

James 007 said:

"Garth...he's pretty cozy with Grier....he tool (tore) those stickers off his car.... RT

Don't be fooled. How the heck would it look for an elected official to have "Get Grier Outta Here" stickers on his car? It's called "politics". It's called making the peace and moving forward for the common good of the children in Guilford County. It's called working together because you have to. Garth knows his number and budgets forwards and backwards. He will not be easy to fool on budgets or other things. He is ever watchful of all that is going on. Things are not always as they appear to be.

I agree about the Skeet Club traffic. Developers should pay impact fees. They should contribute to roads, schools and parks like they do in other cities. But this is your local politics at it's best: city vs county vs real estate developers, etc. etc. etc.

Flip Flops said:

"not supporting the bonds just hurts kids..." Real Truth

I thought you wanted to hurt the kids at SW because you can't stand the NHP parents. They might just get some more space for the overcrowding.

Punny said:

Stormy,

You are right on the money (pardon the pun)on your last post. It think it is the Wizard of Oz because she can spell too and it was a very educated, well-written, non-hateful post for a change. I will say it was quite refreshing, although I must agree with Gatecity Keeper. Dot and Walter must go for these bonds to have any chance to pass, otherwise they'd better start some new reasons for peddling the COD s to the commissioners.

Stormy said:

R.T.,

If not supporting the bonds hurts the kids, why would you keep changing your mind? You make a huge deal about how it hurts the kids, then you say you might change your mind and vote against them. You can't seem to make up your mind whether you are for the kids or not!

"I think the BOE can use bond money more wisely by considering making sure that existing facilities are used to capacity before we build. We can also find ways to reduce the cost of construction."

You may think that the BOE can use money wisely, but history shows that you would be wrong. The BOE and Grier have shown no ability or desire to reduce the costs of construction. The Wake Forest study shows that it costs much more money to build schools in Guilford than other large counties in the state. Why is that? Is it only incompetence? So, when are they going to start finding ways to reduce costs? It better be convincing and soon.

I notice that you are back to your old self again. Did you not have any emails to cut and paste from?

Driving home on Skeet Club, huh? So, you live in NHP?

Sue Ellen said:

RT

Garth is a business man, and a smart one at that. He serves on the school board in a professional manner without self-interest. I wish some of the others could do so as well. Garth would not be one to let any personal feelings get in the way of getting the job done.

To Stormy said:

Stormy,

As Joe S and some others have commented....many contractors do not want to do business with GCS. This is one reason (but only one) why the cost is so much higher.

Do you think it has something to do with all those minority contracts that are given out (the ones that don't go through the bidding process)?

Wasn't it Deena's husband's company who received most of these? I think I read that somewhere.

Stormy said:

If it costs so much more for GCS to build schools because contractors don't want to do business with the responsible individuals at GCS, then the answer to reducing costs is simple. Fire the incompetents. If people are causing the problem, then let's get new people that can be worked with. It's really quite simple. We can start with Terry Grier and go down from there.

Baaby J said:

RT,

If the traffic on Skeet Club is so horrendous, there is a simple solution...stop taking the long way home.

The Real Truth said:

Flip Flop,

I never wanted to hurt kids at SW its racists like you that seem to think that sending some of them to Andrews to ease overcrowding would some how hurt them. Actually, I think they would be more enlightened and better for it if they went to school in diversity instead of your middle class mecca. But you think it hurts your kids to send them to Andrews but its ok to send other kids there. Warped Values!

James 007,

Are you saying that Garth is being misleading by being cozy with Grier. Is he planning a sneak attack from behind his back? Why did he take those stickers off his car? Straight question deserves a straight answer. If he still hates Grier then he shouldn't hide it. If he now sees the light he shouldn't hide it. He shouldn't be hiding behind a veil of politics. Does he have any integrity?

The Real Truth

quest said:

RT,

Garth posts on this blog from time to time. If someone posts on behalf of Garth with an anonymous name, I wouldn't believe that the message even represented Garth.

Take it with a grain of salt.

James 007 said:

RT,

I have never known Garth to ever say he hates Grier. In fact you don't even know most of the people you call Grier haters on this blog. You constantly attack someone in the blogasphere just as you have on many occasions attacked Garth. How do you know if these posters hate Grier? You always try to paint with a wide brush. You don't even know these people, most with anonymous names JUST LIKE YOU. (although we have a 99.9% idea who you are)

I have not witnessed many of the school board members "cozying" up to Grier (well maybe Susie, but she's gone) What I am saying is that the school board and Grier have to work together even if they disagree several issues or how to solve certain problems. That's what acting in a professional, adult manner is about. (can't say the same for our fine commissioners)

Now look who is talking"conspiracy" theory. That's right there's a big attack being planned behind Grier's back. woooooooo....better plan your counter attack and quick. give me a break!

The word "politics" in Webster's is defined as "having practical wisdom, prudent, shrewd, DIPLOMATIC". (It comes from Latin and Greek for "citizen") The word "political" is defined as "of or concerned with government, the state or politics". I think that says it all, especially being diplomatic which is necessary to get the job done. As I previously posted, "making peace and moving forward for the good of the children in Guilford County". I would think that is what most people who serve should be about. That is a lofty goal.

It is you who gave the word a negative connotation. Some people in college (in fact some of our past presidents) even majored in "politics"....imagine that.

You should quit continually attacking Garth. He's doing an excellent job for all of District 2 and for the children of Guilford County.

James 007 said:

p.s.

not just attacking Garth, but Deborah and Mr. Huey. Have you ever even met Garth, Deborha or Mr. Huey, not to mention the people you call racists that you never met either.

Just like Quest said you are an anonymous poster like the rest of us. We take what you say with a very big grain of salt. In fact if our 99.9% opinion is correct who you are, we don't listen to anything you really have to say.

James 007 said:

and one more thing why do you still have the Kerry-Edwards stickers on YOUR Volvo? THEY LOST!

The Real Truth said:

James 007

I'm not attacking Garth. I just want an answer to the question. He had GET Grier Outta Here stickers on his car and signs in his yard. They are gone now. I want to know has he changed his mind or is he just hiding his agenda. Its a fair question. Garth said about the budget, "I'm not happy with it but I'm not unhappy with it." Sounds like compromise to me. I just want to know what else he's compromising. Is he betraying the North High Point Grier Haters that elected him or is he hiding his agenda? Its not an attack its a question. He staked himself out there so he should answer the question honestly and not hide behind "politics" as you say.

Also when I say North High Point Grier Haters you know who I'm talking about. Its not painting with a wide brush its precise targeting. If you live in North High Point and aren't a racist, ignorant, Grier Hater then it doesn't apply to you. I don't consider a myself a Grier Hater, ingnorant racist although I share geography with you. Some / many of the posters here it does apply to.

The Real Truth

Baaaaaaby J said:

TRT's address is NOT considered North High Point. Isn't it funny that he never gave so many clues as to who he was or where he lived until somebody spilled the beans on this blog. Now he is trying his best to make us think it's somebody else. You're not that smart...never have been.

Anonymous said:

Garth represents all of district 2 and looks after all of it,He is also very concerned about Andrews. Its a refreshing change to the Susan/Dot reign where all they cared about was Central.

James 007 said:

To The Real Opinion (trying to be TRT)

If this is not an attack on Garth now, you have attacked him in the past.

Garth was elected by District 2 to do his job. He is doing a fine one at that. He is not betraying anyone in North High Point, nor elsewhere. He cares about ALL of District 2. For those of us who worked our butts off in the rain to get him elected, we stand by him; we TRUST him and we know he knows what he's doing. He's a good man, contrary to what your "opinion" of him is.

Ditto to above comment posted at 10:90 PM. It is a SOOOOO nice for the Dot/Susie reign to have ended. Incidently, what really does irk many people of North High Point is Dot is supposed to be AT LARGE not so obviously just for Central. She doesn't even have the political saavy to hide the fact. Supposedly, she was overhead at a gathering several weeks ago in High Point to say that she does not consider "North High Point" to be High Point. Now how's that for a representative? (sarcasm) Forget supposed to be AT LARGE, she can't even ACT like she represents District 2.

I do know the mayor and her alumni chums sure like our tax dollars when it comes to trying to save Old High Point. Some nerve when some don't even consider us "High Point". That's okay, we list our post office address as "North High Point" not to be confused with "the city". And I am not eating bison meat either.

The Real Truth said:

James 007,

Dot and Susan did a fine job of representing all of High Point and Guilford County! You and your co-horts called them terrible names. Villified them only because they believed in diversity and not segregation. Garth only represents middle class people and while he might care about the poor his policies only hurt the poor. Isolating them like second class citizens is shameful. You and he should be ashamed. He cares as long as they stay out of Sw and don't "hurt" (your words) your middle class kids. You should all be ashamed!

The Real Truth

whoever made the comment about Garth representing all of District 2, I hope you are right. I have contacted him via email and invited him to an event at Andrews High School hoping to give him a chance to meet some of our students, parents, and staff recently. I am still waiting for a response to my email and he did not show up at the event. I live in District 2 so this did not send a good message to me that he cares about me or Andrews. I hope he proves me wrong in the future.

Buckmtn said:

I'm sure Garth is sorry that he could not attend the function of a school that is outside of his district. Isn't Andrews in District 1, which is the immediate responsibility of Dr. Childs?

Therefore are you in District 1 or District 2? If you truly are in District 2 I am confident that Garth does a far superior job of representing all of the citizens of District 2 than his predeccesor did, who basically ignored anything outside of Emerywood for decades.

jennifer fernandez said:

just testing

The Real Truth said:

Buckmtn,

Susan didn't ignore you she just simply disagreed with you. The only thing Garth has done represent SW parents who don't want low income students in their school or don't want their kids to go to a low income school. That has done nothing but set our County backwards not forward.

The Real Truth

Anonymous said:

RT.
ZZZZZZZZZZZ

Andrews Parent:

Contact your rep Walter Childs. What kind of a parent are you?

Central Parent. said:

RT,
Take a look at Central's EOC numbers. They are VERY good. While demographics are not what Dot Kearns wants the principal Revonda Johnson is proving that many kids CAN succeed. Its all about good leadership. I hope Dr.Grier can keep her at Central for many, many years to come. We are so proud of her and our school's improving scores. If Andrews had the same kind of leadership and pride in their students then it might be different. Its people like you, Dot Kearns and Walter Childs who tell these kids that they are not wanted and try to ship them off that are a big part of the problem!

Thank heavens we have great leadership, students and parents at Central!

Congratulations Revonda! When is she going to be named Principal of the year?

Buckmtn said:

Real Truth, no Susan simply chose to disagree with over 700 people on 2/08/04, not just me. It's that attitude that made her a total failure. She just to ignore untold thousands of e-mails and phone calls during her tenure. She only thought she knew what was best. It turns out she knew what was best to induce astronomical growth in High Point's booming private school industry.

On a more positive note you'll be glad to know that over the past 30 days I've assisted in the successful recruitement of 2 honors students from HP Central to HPCA. Trying to help out that student to teacher ratio for you.

Anonymous said:

Mr Buck Mountain,
Is that what you call helping?

I live in District 2 so Garth is my elected school board representative. I think as a constituent in his district, I at least deserve a response to my email request.

I have spoken and emailed Dr. Childs in the past about various issues and he always responds to my inquiries. However, Dr. Childs is not my elected representative. Do you not agree that I should have the chance to have my elected representative visit my assigned school? Do you not think he should have to listen to my inquiries just because my child does not go to Southwest?

What did you mean by your remark "What kind of a parent are you?"

Boardwatcher said:

Andrewsparent,

There are many instances in this County where you can live in one district but go to school in another. This is because of changing boundaries overtime. I think its best that you contact Mr Childs in regards issues with Andrews.

Stormy said:

Andrewsparent,

You know that Dot Kearns is an elected At-Large representative and lives in High Point, very near your school. As At-Large Rep, she represents you as well as your district representative. Why not give her a call, she always takes an interest in Andrews since it is a High Point school. I'm sure that she can help as well.

SW Parent said:

Andrews Parent,

Board watcher is correct on this one. You have to contact the board member who is the rep for your school and that would be Walter Childs. There are several children in Anita's district who do not go to Ragsdale, but to SWH. There are children in SW district who go to Western because of the open attendance offer several years ago.

Go to the Guilford County School Board web site. Find the list of school board members which lists the schools they oversee. That is who you contact as these are the schools they visit.

Of course, Darlene goes to SW a lot because a lot of the Colfax parents (who where Susan's) were used to contacting Darlene when Susan didn't get back to them. In fact, Darlene and Garth were very involved in Eastern after the fire. Garth does care much about Andrews, but that is Child's school.

Good luck on Dot Kearns. She's supposed to be "at-large" but you would get more attention if you were at Central. There is also Nancy Routh who's an excellent at-large representative.

RO (Real Opinion)

Susan ignored over 700 people for too long and look where it got her. School board reps are elected by their constituents to represent them. She chose what was best for Central. I didn't see her at the SWH graduation last year? What about the year before that? We can't wait to have Garth at graduation this year.

Parent said:

Jennifer what are you testing?

SW Parent said:

Andrews Parent:

Boardwatcher is correct on this one. There are children who attend SWH that do not go to Ragsdale (Anita’s district). There are children who attend Western because they attended when their was open enrollment in 03 that are actually in the SWH zone. What about the students in the many magnet schools?

You need to go to GCS website, go to the list of school board reps and it will list their school. Walter Childs is listed for Andrews. You need to contact him as that’s his school. Dot Kearns is supposed to be At-Large. That might help too but you would get faster attention if you were at Central. Nancy Routh is also At-Large and excellent.

RO (Real Opinion):

Susan M ignored over 700 CONSTITUENTS as Buck said and look where it got her. She was not at SW’s graduation last year? Don’t think she was there the year before that either. We can’t wait to have Garth at our senior graduation this year. Darlene Garrett took care of many calls from Colfax parents because they couldn’t get Susan even though Colfax was her school.

Buck:

That’s great on helping Central. I heard they are overcrowded.

To all who responded to my post,
I am simply making a point to the poster who said that Garth cared about everyone in District 2 and he cares about Andrews. I was responding to that statement simply because as a resident of District 2 I did not feel he responded to me when I contacted him. I did not agree with this blanket statement that was made and wanted to let him/her know that I did not find this statement to be true in my case.
I hope that in any future inquiries I make to him he responds. I still feel as one of his constituents he should respond, regardless if I have kids in one of his assigned schools or not. What if I did not have any kids in any school? Do you not think he should be willing to talk to me about school issues? Is Garth only available to speak to those people who have kids in his assigned schools? That doesn't make sense.


jwg said:

Andrewsparent,

Just out of curiosity, how are you certain that Garth received your email invitation in a timely manner?

Given the proliferation of SPAM and the increasingly agressive methods to eliminate unwanted emails, is it possible that Garth did not receive your email in a time for the event?

I'm not saying that he didn't completely ignore you. I'm just pointing out that there is no guarantee that an email will be received and recogized by someone who may receive hundreds of emails a day (such as a BOE member) many of which may be unwanted.

Contact information for the BOE members (at http://www.gcsnc.com/boe/members.htm) includes not only email but also phone/fax and mailing address information. I'd suggest that you not trust important communications only to email.

Thanks!
jwg

Gatecity Keeper said:

Andrewsparent, you must have caught Garth on a bad day. I know for a fact he's helped many parents over here in Greensboro at both Grimsley and Dudley. That's what I'd say is crossing district lines, socio-economic lines, racial lines, city lines and any other lines you can think of.

Please try him again, I'm sure he's willing to listen. Plus Dr. Childs always boasts about Andrews, I would give him a call.

Stormy, I have to go with you on this one as well. Andrewsparent should call Dot as an At-large representative and resident of High Point. In order to entice Dot to show-up tell her that some Georgia peanut farmers will be there.

Stormy said:

Gatecity Keeper,

Has Dot Kearns ever really been to Andrews? It might be a wonderful experience for her to go there. Didn't Dr. Childs say that it was a great school and good things were happening there?

debora said:

Stormy,
Yes Dr. childs says that Andrews is a great school, and perhaps they are going in the right way... and I am sure that the kids take pride in their school as do most kids of the school they attend; however as you know we only have the public information to go on and the scores are dismal. The EOC's are absolutely unacceptable and its terrible that we are 20% under Charl/Meck schools.

Buckmtn said:

Stormy, I concur with Debora's comments about what Dr. Child's said.

Think of it this way.... Larry Hoover telling Dean Wormer that "those mid-term grades are really going to pull our scores up".

I'll call Dot and see if she wants to ride over to Andrews with me so we can check out what Dr. Childs is talking about. I'll put the top down on the MG, I think Dot and I would look simply dashing riding down Hwy 68 together don't you?

Anonymous said:

No.

What? said:

Stormy,

Dot did go to Andrews one time when there were 6 squad cars. She thought they had sent too many. I hope Deborah is right that Andrews is improving. What criteria is Childs using to say Andrews is a great school? I am sure the students are proud of their school like other students are but everyone should be screaming about the EOC scores. Something is definitely not working there and elsewhere.

I read in the High Point paper today that there is a program at Andrews sponsored by a High Point organization that gives out scholarship for students who stay on target to stay in school. There were several criteria listed. One was that a student had to have a 2.0 average. Isn’t that only a D? Where can that get you in life. You would have a diploma but what kind of education would you have had. I could even understand a C as many colleges require but a D to receive a scholarship?!? What message does this send about raising the bar?

sally said:

Stormy,

Dot did go to Andrews one time when there were 6 squad cars. She thought they had sent too many. I hope Deborah is right that Andrews is improving. What criteria is Childs using to say Andrews is a great school? I am sure the students are proud of their school like other students are but everyone should be screaming about the EOC scores. Something is definitely not working there and elsewhere.

I read in the High Point paper today that there is a program at Andrews sponsored by a High Point organization that gives out scholarship for students who stay on target to stay in school. There were several criteria listed. One was that a student had to have a 2.0 average. Isn’t that only a D? Where can that get you in life. You would have a diploma but what kind of education would you have had. I could even understand a C as many colleges require but a D to receive a scholarship?!?

Sue said:


Stormy,

Dot did go to Andrews one time when there were 6 squad cars. She thought they had sent too many. I hope Deborah is right that Andrews is improving. What criteria is Childs using to say Andrews is a great school? I am sure the students are proud of their school like other students are but everyone should be screaming about the EOC scores. Something is definitely not working there and elsewhere.

I read in the High Point paper today that there is a program at Andrews sponsored by a High Point organization that gives out scholarship for students who stay on target to stay in school. There were several criteria listed. One was that a student had to have a 2.0 average. Isn’t that only a D? Where can that get you in life. You would have a diploma but what kind of education would you have had. I could even understand a C as many colleges require but a D to receive a scholarship?!?

Stormy said:

Buckmtn,

Road trip!

The Real Truth said:

Buckmtn,Debra, Stormy,

You seem to take great delight in trashing Andrews. You have no idea what is going on there. You have no idea about some of the great teachers there, the great students. EOC averages have more to do with demographics than the quality of teaching and learning. I guess you are simply basing your coments about Andrews because African American Students are the majoruty of students there. Fortunately for you Buck you managed to get your kids into an all white private school. Segregated from the poor and you have recruited others to join you. You should be so proud! Thats so Christian... Not!

As for Garth, there is no rule that a school board member cannot get involved in a school outside of his or her district. Thats a cop out. Garth's voting effects students throughout the County and he is obligated to understand the issues at every school. He's not practicing what he preaches. Of course, I suspected that.

As for Susan not attending graduation at SW. Did you want her to go so you could vanadalize her car again? Her car and house were vandalized several times and the vandals always left calling cards from SW "Get Grier Outa Here" stickers and signs that Garth bought. Susan wasn't treated with respect or even decency!

The Real Truth

Numbersgame said:

RT,

Please clarify "EOC averages have more to do with demographics than the quality of teaching and learning"

Baaaaby J said:

Numbersgame,
Good question! I hope he isn't saying that no matter where you put those kids, they just can't learn.

andrewsparent,
If my child attended a school where my elected official was different than the member assigned to my child's school, and I had an issue with a policy or a general GCS question, I would call my elected official. If I wanted to see representation at a school function, I would call the board member assigned to that school and/or Nancy Routh (at-large). I would never, ever call Dot Kearns because.....well, I just wouldn't.

RT,
You must have never had the privilege of seeing one of those Grier Outta Here gems up close. They aren't stickers, they are magnets...no vandalism involved if Susan unknowingly rides around all day with one on her car. And for your information, the colors were changed to red and white with just a splash of royal on the latest order; paid for by one of your school chums. See, everybody at Andrews isn't as fond of Grier as you are. Look for them. They should be arriving in the next couple weeks.

debora said:

I stand by my earlier comments, and apparently so does the state of NC. In a world that uses scores for comparing schools, Andrews is not make the grade as a school and unfortunately for the students they aren't either. Its proof is in the scores.

I'm sure that there are smart children and great teachers at Andrews, but unfortunately they aren't doing well on tests and as I previously said, that is the measure that the public uses to see how a school is doing.

Elaine said:

Stormy,

Dot did go to Andrews one time when there were 6 squad cars. She thought they had sent too many. I hope Deborah is right that Andrews is improving. What criteria is Childs using to say Andrews is a great school? I am sure the students are proud of their school like other students are but everyone should be screaming about the EOC scores. Something is definitely not working there and elsewhere.

I read in the High Point paper today that there is a program at Andrews sponsored by a High Point organization that gives out scholarship for students who stay on target to stay in school. There were several criteria listed. One was that a student had to have a 2.0 average. Isn’t that only aC-? Where can that get you in life. You would have a diploma but what kind of education would you have had. I could even understand a 2.5 as many colleges require but a C- to receive a scholarship?!?

SW Parent said:

Stormy,

Dot did go to Andrews one time when there were 6 squad cars. She thought they had sent too many. I hope Deborah is right that Andrews is improving. What criteria is Childs using to say Andrews is a great school? I am sure the students are proud of their school like other students are but everyone should be screaming about the EOC scores. Something is definitely not working there and elsewhere.

I read in the High Point paper today that there is a program at Andrews sponsored by a High Point organization that gives out scholarship for students who stay on target to stay in school. There were several criteria listed. One was that a student had to have a 2.0 average. Isn’t that only aC-? Where can that get you in life. You would have a diploma but what kind of education would you have had. I could even understand a 2.5 as many colleges require but a C- to receive a scholarship?!?

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