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Roy the Jayhawk?

What was UNC coach Roy Williams thinking? Wear the KU symbol or not?

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D said:

I think it was fine for Roy to attend the game, pull for Kansas in his own way, but don't put some goofy Kansas sticker on after they defeated you on Satruday night. That shows a lack of class and it shows me it was all for attention. Now Roy will defend himself, but he could've avoided all this drama by not putting on the sticker. Some people like to bring attention to themselves and this is one of those cases. Think about UNC and its fans Roy. You have stooped to another level in my opinion. Another year with all this talent and you blow it. Now this....

Leenie said:

I remember a similar incident in which Coach Capel of North Carolina A&T sat in the stands with a Duke cap on during the NCAA games. So many Aggies gave him grief about it that he left A&T (I don't blame him) for another coaching job. We lost a great coach. Why does Roy Williams have to be a 'CLOSET' supporter? He is not a coach 24/7. He is a man, a father, and a husband. Those are his 24/7 jobs/opportunities/blessings.

Paul said:

It was a classy move by Roy showing support for his old school, but he bleeds UNC blue. That is why he is in Chapel Hill.

Sensei said:

I think it was fine for Roy to support Kansas. Since he no longer had a dog in the fight, he should be free to support whomever he pleases, even if they beat the snot out of his team two days prior.

Just because he coaches one team doesn't mean he cannot support another, in my opinion. Also, I'm pretty sure that Roy still has many connections and friends at KU, so it's only right for him to want them to succeed.

bobby said:


The game wasn't about Kansas and Carolina.
The game was about Kansas beating Roy
Williams, and they did. If Roy thinks that much
of Kansas, then he needs to take his butt, bag. and baggage back there. we don't need him in,
North Carolina.

Jason said:

I am a long-time Carolina fan, and I think some of
these UNC fans who are complaining so loudly, and saying that Roy Williams needs to be fired, need to be quiet, and think about what they are saying. You might just tick off Roy so badly, that he decides to leave, and then what will Carolina do? Hire Matt Doherty again? God forbid!!

Let me explain what I mean. Consider this scenario: Current Jayhawks coach Bill Self is being courted by his alma-mater, Oklahoma State. Let's say that Self decides to take the OSU job, which would, obviously leave an opening at Kansas. Roy Williams might decide he can no longer stand the badgering he's receiving from UNC fans and alumni, and leave for Kansas, obviously creating a coaching vacancy at UNC. Let's face reality, fellow Tar Heel faithful: Dean Smith ain't comin' back!!

Where else would Carolina find a hall-of-fame coach who wins 80-percent of his games as Roy Wiliams has, and who recruits All-Americas like Tyler Hansbrough?

So, UNC fans, please stop all of this nonsense before you create a potential disaster in North Carolina's men's basketball program!

Pam said:

Being a UNC fan, I personally thought it was kind of strange for Roy to show up at the Kansas-Memphis game with a KU sticker on his shirt, but I realize that he was at KU a long time and still has ties to that school and former players like any other coach would. Maybe he was trying to offer an olive branch to the KU fans since they've equated him with the devil since he left Kansas to coach UNC. From what I've read, it worked. Having said that, I think Roy is a great coach and I would love to see him stay at UNC for the remainder of his career. Next to Dean, he's the best coach UNC has ever had, so let's cut him some slack. He's a Tar Heel by birth and by choice, and we've got him, so let's not give him a reason to re-think his decision to come home.

Tarheel Through and Through said:

I have been a Tarheel fan all of my life, and I was glad to see Roy cheering for Kansas. He did spend 15 years at Kansas and worked very closely with some of the players there. He is a man, who was enjoying a game, just like the rest of America. We need to stop all this complaining about one measily little incident and look at what the man has accomplished. How many other Tarheel teams have had a 36 win season? If he wants to cheer for Kansas when they are playing, then that is his prerogative. Let's get past our petty insecurities and congratulate the man for the OUTSTANDING season!

Cece said:

At first, I was really upset with Roy but after reading other comments I realize we have to be careful how we react to Roy's presence in the stands cheering for Kansas.

We don't want to lose a great coach.

If only he had skipped the Jayhawks t shirt.

Joe Stephens said:

Totally out of place for Roy to do what he did. When he left Kansas for NC he should have left Kansas behind. Not that he should not have relationships with former players, that's all good but I am not happy with Roy, it was a slap in the face to me as a Tarheel fan.

joe

Lori said:

I think that it was ok since we do teach our own children to be good losers. He was at peace with the loss and shows he moved on to do what he wanted. Kudos to you Roy.....
I know you are for your own UNC full hearted.

Junior Burcham said:

Roy is a typical Tarheel fan. When Carolina wins they are everywhere, when they lose you can not find one.

Kent Benfield said:

Lighten up, folks. The relationship btw Coaches & former schools should be a healthy one. I wish Skip Prosser was still here to have the choice to wear a "Xavier" sticker...

Dennis Leonard said:

Thank you Roy Williams for once again defining that class and sportsmanship does, indeed, have a Tar Heel home. The enduring legacy of and the indelible link between Kansas University and UNC should alone quiet the critics. The invisible umbilical cord of the 1957 triple overtime NCAA championship, Dean Smith, Larry Brown, Danny Manning, Roy Williams all should visualize our undeniable connectivity.

If you want to have disdain for a basketball coach in the state of North Carolina, have it for Coach faKe in Durham. On the very night that all of North Carolina should be hurting over the unimaginable loss of Eve Carson, Coach faKe and his midget minded minions couldn't show the class and sportsmanship to wear the Carolina Blue ribbons handed out at Cameron Indoor to memorialize the loss of a brilliant student flame.

Thank you Roy Williams, for showing the country that Carolina Blue does embody class, sportsmanship and civility. Thank you for sharing with us your heart and your passion for right mindedness. And, thank you Roy for showing respect to KU, a university that all Tar Heel fans should revere, for all that it has given and all that it has shared.

Kham said:

I think Roy showed great sportsmanship when he choose to support the Kansas team despite the UNC lost. I am a UNC fan and I enjoy watching the sport reguardless if UNC is playing or not. Once they lost there was only two teams left. One winner;one loser. ........ why not support one?

Rashad McCants said:

Junior is probably a State fan. They never sniff the tourney! Or maybe he's a Duke fan, lately they can't make it past the first or second round! What Roy did was stupid, but oh well. He has to deal with the criticism, not the public. Roy would never leave UNC, so get off that crap and he wouldn't return to Kansas. He would be a fool to do that. Roy is great, but he can't coach in the Final Four. He got the ring in '05, but that wasn't his team. Matt Doherty built that team and Roy has never won with his players at Kansas or UNC, so maybe next year is the trick. If only all those players come back, let's hope so!!!!

charlene said:

Personally thought Roy's actions were a slap in the face to all carolina fans. I didnt mind him being at the game, didnt mind him cheering for kansas, (cause we all know Roy LOVES Kansas), but he could have at least wore something carolina blue under his sticker. I have been a tar heel fan for 40 years, and this has made me lose alot of respect for Roy. To me, this wasnt about showing class, it was all for "show".

keith said:

Roy Williams is the highest paid state employee

Roy is a ambassador for this state and to the UNC system

He doesn't get paid to wear another colleges sticker.

I can't wait to see the recruiting angle to Kansas and the basketball team. "Even Roy Still Loves Kansas"

Roy could have worn a Carolina Blue colors with the sticker or a NC logo somewhere but to see it stick out like it did is bad .

The players are back in Chapel Hill licking their wounds but Ol Roy is in Alamo Dome wearing a Kansas sticker. Thanks

Roy can do whatever he wants he could have been in the stands wearing the black sweater but to have the Kansas logo on your chest is a bit too much for me.

I can't wait to see the dookies yell to Roy at cameron, " HEY ROY NEED A STICKER", and have all the students hold up a Dook Blue Devil sticker.

Grey B said:

I think it is interesting that the majority of the comments lean toward how this is a slap in the face to the NC fans. The first thing I thought about were the Carolina players. I wonder how they felt watching the game back in Chapel Hill...when the coach that they have been working so hard for over the past 6-7 months shows up smiling on tv? Having fun in the stands with the boosters, and supporting the team, that had just beaten them 48 hours before.

I understand the circumstances of his relationship with Kansas, and I don't think this makes Roy classless...but rather a bit selfish in his desire to be liked by a group of people (only a small contingent of Kansas fans) that ultimately could care less about him.

Just an odd choice by a guy that has so many supporters...to worry about a few detractors...

hanblu2 said:

I simply can't believe what I'm reading here!!! When I first saw Roy sitting behind the Kansas bench, wearing a Kansas t-shirt I was so proud of our coach and all that he stands for. Roy is a class act - just like Dean Smith.

Would you be so upset if one our former players who is now a coach for some other school cheered for us, sat behind our bench, wore one of our t-shirts? I think not!

Grow up! Some of you are sounding like Dookies!

Alice Charmers said:

I am not a Carolina fan, but i felt for the players when I saw their coach cheering on Kansas and wearing Kansas colors.
It might not have been his intent, but I consider it hitting below the belt.
This was all about Roy Williams.
May Roy Williams get a plane ticket to Kansas.

I praise the Carolina players for making it to the Final Four. When the game gets to that level, it is a different type of basketball than during regular season.


Mike K, Coach said:

Why, I think that was a fine thing to do. It is all about relationships, and that was one of Roy's longest ones.

Tina said:

Roy Williams is a class act, through and through. True Carolina fans would have been pulling for Kansas anyway, since they bested us. You can't erase 15 good years at Kansas for Roy Williams, and he is free to cheer on his former team since Carolina was no longer in the running. Great sportsmanship. The way it should be. Naysayers, go cheer for Duke. We're lucky to have a coach like Roy Williams who doesn't forget about the importance of relationships and who still has the moxie to support his former college, and some really fine Kansas basketball players. He shows the kind of class he has, which I'm sure will certainly help with recruiting great talent in the future. True Carolina fans support Roy Williams and appreciate him.

Billy Sago said:

On Friday, before the game in San Antonio, my wife and I went to watch the team practices. UNC's practice was lame. The players came out looking like they had overslept or were hungover. My thinking was that Roy was encouraging them to relax and be stress free but they did appear to look extraordinarily unenthusiastic. It didn't look right.

On Saturday, I couldn't believe that Kansas led at one point 40-12. Roy Williams let the team self destruct and NEVER called a time out in an effort to stop the steam roll. If one didn't know any better, you would have thought Williams was throwing the game as a favor to Kansas. On Monday night, seeing Williams with the KU shirt logo was unbelievable. It's incredible to believe that Roy didn't think twice about this stunt.

At Kansas, Roy Williams seemed to characteristically produce a team, year after year, that was ranked in the top five. In the NCAA tourney, Kansas produced nothing under Roy Williams except a few empty trips to the Final Four. UNC won the championship in his second season as head coach and largely with the previous coach's recruits(sorta like Tubby Smith in '98 for Kentucky where UNC also lost in the Final Four).

Just like his Kansas days, Roy seems adept at nurturing a team into the the top ranks but then losing focus and interest by tournament time. It's not fair to the players or fans for your interest to fizzle at the end of the tournament every year.

Moreover, if your being paid well over a million dollars a year, you don't spit on the school that was gracious enough to hire you with a stunt like this. There is nothing 'classy' about sporting another team's logo at the championship game that whipped your team only two days earlier. If he absolutely had to attend that game, then he should have wore a plain shirt. A dark blue shirt might have even been acceptable. But to sport the school logo of the team that your own kids are still smarting emotionally from a loss? This is just plain classless. Fathers of potential recruits might very well take notice of this and see Roy as a brick shy of being the complete coach. They might influence their sons to attend other schools. This could hurt UNC in the short term.

The lack of a response from Roy on this issue is demonstrative of the fact that he could care less what the players, fans or anyone else thinks. For the money that he is being paid each year, no school should have to accept such insolence from any employee.

As for the dopes on this board who think it was delightful, sweet, or a beautiful sportsmanlike gesture that Roy did by being subservient to Kansas less than 48 hours of stinking up the gym, you are either Duke fans trying to deep six this topic for your own kicks or you are type B personalities that have never played a sport in your life. You couldn't possibly have a clue as to what the word loyalty means.

Roy lacks finesse but this should serve as one of what will be many red flags over how this guy thinks in the future. Not to worry, if a man can be this inept to the feelings of those around him, then you can rest assured there is more to come. What if Roy duplicates the success he had at Kansas over the next decade? What if UNC never wins another championship because Roy gets off more to being an accommodating half-load in the tournament? Roy may have brought his own pet jinx to UNC and only time will tell.

Deas said:

Much to do about NOTHING ! Roy is a Tarheel - Thank GOD !

Buddy said:

Roy didn't wear a Kansas t-shirt to the game the other night. Several of his former Kansas players were sitting near him during the Memphis-Kansas game and one gave him that sticker which he put on his shirt. Tar Heel fans who are upset about this are making a mountain out of a mole hill. It was a classy move. By the way there apparently are lots and lots of Tar Heel fans, some claiming to be long time ones, who can't spell our team name correctly. Tar Heels are two words NOT Tarheels, just like Duke isn't the Bluedevils

mikey said:

why did'nt he pack up his bags and go home with his team? you can tell where his loyalties lie I personally believe he coached his team to be laxed so his old college team could win give me a break ain't no way carolina could play that bad even if rhey tried no way!!!

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