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And just where was the obit? Was it not important enough to be included? And just what is the purpose of the article other than another anti-death penalty plead? What is there to comment on actually in this blog? Are we to feel sorry for the one executed or are we to feel sorry for the survivors or should we feel sorry for those he brutally killed. Did you really take time to think about the purpose of the article before posting or did you just need something to throw into this blog as you do with the majority of your issues?

For some reason it seemed odd to read the details of his funeral and to see a list of survivors.

Just what are you trying to say with this statement and what kind of response is expected based on this statement? The reader of this blog has no clue what seemed odd to you. The statement has no base for a blog discussion.

You can do better.

The whole idea of capital punishment is abhorrent to me. The article was surreal, as would be the situation of getting to read one's obit before taking the last walk.

I wonder why they always do these things at 2:00 AM?

Eric, STATE MURDERS are conducted in the "middle of the night" so that it is left in "darkness." That way humanity will not know about the "darker" side of the State! Yet, the State still sanctions these actions (MURDER).

The only comment by MRP that was valid was asking where was the obit. At least the article I read was not what I consider the traditional obituary.

Shalom

I often wonder about the people who are in favor of capital punishment. Especially the Christians. You'd think they wouldn't much care for it, considering Jesus was a victim of it, himself. But there are an AWFUL lot of bloody-minded people who seem to be unable to get themselves away from a "Levitical" mind-set when it comes to other people's morality.

[me shakes head sadly...]

Eric, please know that I am TOTALLY and COMPLETELY against capital punishment. I hope that my previous post did not convey thoughts otherwise. If so, that was not my intent.

Shalom

Um... I was referring to Mr. Produce, mon. I was agreeing with you. Or at least I was tying to. I was only saying that there are many Christians who are for state-run executions, and that puzzles me, as I'm sure it puzzles many who are against it as you are. That's all.

Eric, please show where I said I was pro or con death penalty!

"And just what is the purpose of the article other than another anti-death penalty plead?"

This led me to the idea that you are not exactly sympathetic to us "anti-death penalty" folks. If I'm wrong about your views, I apologize. However, my comments in general regarding Christian supporters of the death penalty stand.

Remember what happens Eric when you assume. And you did however the reflection is strictly on you . Your apologies are as meaningless as the executed mans saying I am sorry after he killed his family.

You never cease to amaze me as you rant about how "Christians" are so lacking in all the great moral aptitudes which you as an atheist claim to possess. Your slams against them as seen by you as failings and you claim that they have no moral high ground but yet claim that you are just as good.
You are doing exactly as you claim the "Christians" are doing by your constant ridicule. I do not believe that you see me or most of the others ridiculing you for your beliefs. Are not atheist suppose to be those who claim to be tolerant? Looks as if it's only a one way street for you Eric. We all know your views and we feel for your lack belief.

"You never cease to amaze me as you rant about how "Christians" are so lacking in all the great moral aptitudes which you as an atheist claim to possess."

I make no claim to moral aptitude "as an atheist." And your refusal to accept my apology speaks volumes of your moral principles.

I'm not aware that I ever spoke on this subject about all Christians. I was speaking of a subset of Christians who support the death penalty... I made no statement regarding my estimate of the size of that group. So let's stop getting away from the subject, eh?

What is your view of the death penalty? Are you a Christian who supports it, or are you, like Darryl, a Christian who opposes it? It's a simple question that it shouldn't do you any harm to respond to.

Please let me clarify, since my earlier statement could be seen as more global than I meant it. I had assumed that a person reading the entire thread would pick up on my meaning using the context of the surrounding comments, but I suppose I erred there. I won't apologize, since there are some here who assume I don't deserve forgiveness for even the simplest of mistakes. Such is life.

I wrote:
"I often wonder about the people who are in favor of capital punishment. Especially the Christians."

For better clarity, I should have said:

"I often wonder about the people who are in favor of capital punishment. Especially those of the Christian religion who favor it."

I did not intend to imply that all Christians favor the death penalty. I would have thought that most people could see that I would have figured that out from Darryl's post, if from no other source.

The reason for non acceptance of apoligies Eric is that you actually do not apoligize. You make a state of apololgy and the add but......
You see inorder to apoligize you must have your but in the right place and yours is not.

Example of what I mean: If I'm wrong about your views, I apologize. ( read here BUT) However, my comments in general regarding Christian supporters of the death penalty stand.

Now stating it as: my comments in general regarding the stand that some Christians take in regards to the death penalty, I stand by my opinion BUT, if I am wrong about your views , I apologize. Here you have your BUT in the right place. Call it what you will, it does make a large difference as to how one may interpret you statements and the sincerity of an apology. By placing a qualifier or statement of standing firm only negates your apology. Perhaps now you will understand why I have no regard for your apologies.

Now, now, Produce...how many times did Jesus say to forgive? Did he say only to forgive if the semantics are correct? Take a xanex and calm down and think about it.

And, Eric, I'm not sure how any Christian could be pro-death penalty. Christians should have a consistant pro-life ethic. That is unless you are practicing nationalistic religion commonly called fundamentalist "Christianity". Those folks just make up their ethics as they go along and usually take their moral stand directly from the Republican platform.

It is a lack of clear understanding of biblical teching that prompts people - Christian or non; pope or pew warmer - to see capital punishment as "murder." True, biblical Christianity is not a feel-good, emotion-driven system of maudlin sentimentality; it is a spiritual revelation of God's holy Law and the Messianic antidote, Grace -attained by the sacrifice of the Lamb of God.

Grace is only applicable to the individual sinner who repents and trusts in Messiah's atonement; it does not extend to the civil realm of law and justice in a direct sense. It may enhance the dispenation of mercy, but just law implies an appropriate sentence for an offence (lex talionis). A just adn secure civil order can operate in no other way.

Capital punishment is truly pro-life in that it supports the biblical truth that man was specially created in the image of God, and thus his life is holy to the Lord. To take a human life is therefore the most grievous crime of all, and requires, as a just recompense, the forfieture of the murderer's own life.

Most people who jump willy nilly onto the antideath penalty bandwagon do so because it is the PC, liberal thing to do. They refuse to consider the surrounding ussues. And neither is just warfare murder either from a biblical perspective; it is the defense of millions of innocent persons from the clear and present threat of an invading enemy - as on 9/11.

It is simply impossible to do clear and rational thinking apart from a studied, faith-based understanding of Scripture. It all devolves into the fuzzy, bleeding-heart opions evidenced in these blogs.
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