Trust no one?
"ATLANTA -- When a new couple arrived at Southside Christian Fellowship Church in August 2005, members welcomed them with open arms. Soon, the new couple talked their way into private group support sessions in the Stockbridge home of church member Ken King.
During the private talks, church members confessed abortions, sexual orientation issues, drug addictions and other dark secrets. No one knew the couple wasn't actually interested in joining the church. Instead, they were private investigators hoping two church members, Bill and Leandra Pitts, would spill something they could use to discredit the pair in an ongoing lawsuit over a traffic accident."
The Pitts are suing. This might be morally wrong, but legally wrong? How would you call it?
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Even though it was in a group setting, I think these folks - all group members - not just the Pitts'- as well as the counselor had an expectation of privacy. Worse, this invasion occurred in a private home. Doubly egregious.
Eric, you know me so you already know what my opinions are of the insurance company, its lawyers and the PI's, so you can start with 'lower than pond scum" since that's friendly enough for even the most tender of christian-ears and let it roll from there.
Posted on August 23, 2007 5:23 PM
It may be within the law - I don't really know. But you're right Alice; it was very egregious. It was clearly an immoral invasion of privacy. That's a no-brainer.
There is entirely too much invasion of our private lives today. Technology has become Big Brother par excellence. Everywhere you go he's watching, checking, recording. The 9/11 act of war has only worsened it. As it does in any wartime scenario - necessarily; but it's sad to see all the agencies and organizations, foreign and domestic, peering into our private lives and pasts.
Man wants to become God: to know all and monitor all - and punish all. I'm rather libertarian in this regard, wanting no more government than is Constitutionally allowed, and absolutely necessary: no national income or sales taxes; only state ones (low rate)- the states pay to the federal a low-rated percentage. No national education department, federal entitlements or social programs. Nothing but regulation of interstate commerce and national defense - and whatever else reasonably follows from minimal necessity.
The federal government is WAY TOO BIG now. Who can slay the monster? WE THE PEOPLE! Too bad that neither the DNC or the RNC has any interest in doing so. The big government liberals are the worst (or so I thought): since the State is their deity, it becomes the providential lord who dispences to the serfs, who then become beholden and dependent.
Posted on August 23, 2007 7:34 PM
I just went back and re-read the article and am even more disgusted. This wasn't the defendant's insurer which is behind this; it's the Pitt's OWN insurer, Progressive.
The GA law firm Progressive works with to defend claims hired the investigators. I bet Progressive never expected to get the kind of priceless " advertising" that's going to follow.
I wonder if the insurance-defense lawyers directed their investigators to do this or if the investigators were given free rein? I also wonder what the GA Bar's position is on what seems like an ethical lapse by some of their own.
I hope that EVERYONE who attended a session - including the counselor- joins in as co-plaintiffs or initiates their own lawsuits against what seems to me some of the sorriest investigative tactics I've ever heard of. And may each recover enough- and their lawyers earn enough- to slap Progressive and its insurance defense firm -upside the head until their ears ring.
Posted on August 23, 2007 8:48 PM
What makes this even worse is that at the beginning of each session, there was "...a statement that whatever was said in the room would remain private."
Ah, the necessary evil of insurance. This gives you an idea of what to expect if involved in an auto accident!
Shalom
Posted on August 24, 2007 7:54 AM
Is insurance such a necessity that our society should put up with crap like this? I think we can all agree "not!"
Posted on August 24, 2007 8:17 AM
Eric, this goes beyond the necessity of insurance. It's pure corporate greed and an eye on nothing but the bottom line- plain and simple, which drove Progressive to such tactics against ITS OWN INSUREDS.
After reading the article, were I insured by Progressive, I'd drop them like a boiling-hot rock without a second's hesitation.
FOR SHAME!!! And I'd do a google search on any insurer I might substitute to see if they'd been accused of similar sleazeball activity ( including redlining and discrimination against women ) before I'd do business with them. If corporations are going to get legal recognition as " persons", and more tax breaks then we ever do, maybe they'd better act like decent people and folow the Golden Rule.
* ( I believe it waas State Farm that got the mess sued out of them for refusing to hire women back in the 1980's. They'd tell women with college degrees they could be secretaries but men with only a HS diploma got their own agencies. Sweet, huh? )
Posted on August 24, 2007 9:06 AM
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Posted on August 30, 2007 8:11 AM
Yes, we're still here, mon
Posted on August 30, 2007 8:17 AM
eric,
for some reason typekey wouldn't allow me to post for several days....... maybe it thought i needed a 'time out' (lol) :-)
Posted on August 30, 2007 8:20 AM
But... this forum isn't linked to Typekey. You ought to know better than to try and comment in the LTE forum. They play rough over there. :P
Posted on August 30, 2007 8:49 AM
well whatever the case, i'm now able to comment - yeah they throw sand in their sandbox(lte)
Posted on August 30, 2007 9:18 AM