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Since publics schools are a bully pulpit for Secular Humanism, the religion of Man, it would seem only just and proper for the kids to be exposed in an equal degree to other faith traditions, including Christianity. And what ever happened to the idea of appealing to local norms when deciding cases - as in morality issues. The said it was in the middle of the "Bible Belt." Hmmmm. Local norms?

The bottom line here is that Humanism is in the business of preserving their hegemony in the educational sphere, the main objective of which is the defeat and eradication of biblical Christianity. The emperor really doesn;t have any clothes on, but nobody in the major media outlets will ever admit it. Of course, the liberal judges are in full colusion with the liberal/humanist objectives.

But because the schools are secular humanist operations anyway, I would just as soon there be no distribution of religious books there. Not for their reasons, but because I can see Korans, Bhagavad Gitas, and copies of the Book of Mormon soon being distributed there as well. The best policy is to close down the government indoctrination centers and build Christian schools in their place. Better yet, home school.

What does "secular" mean?

1. of or pertaining to worldly things or to things that are not regarded as religious, spiritual, or sacred; temporal: secular interests.
2. not pertaining to or connected with religion (opposed to sacred): secular music.
3. (of education, a school, etc.) concerned with nonreligious subjects.

This is all that public schools are supposed to be -- educating children on non-religious subjects, to help them prepare for life outside of a church. And I'm sure you are aware that there is a life that exists outside of church. Right? This idea that secularism is a religion is nothing but propaganda. As the saying goes, if secularism is a religion, then "bald" is a hair color.

Why not instead give students a primer about many different religions, written from a disinterested point of view and including representative selections from whatever sacred texts they have?

"This idea that secularism is a religion is nothing but propaganda. As the saying goes, if secularism is a religion, then "bald" is a hair color." Namtac

We do not say that "secularism" is a religion, but that "secular humanism" is. There's a difference. And I do not understand wny you cite the above definitions of "secular." There is SOME truth to them, but "secular," in and of itself, simply means pertaining to the social order. Biblical Christians maintain that ALL reality, all social orders are under God's divine sovereignty; and that secular HUMANISM is, in fact, a competing worldview - a system of ordering the values and lifestyles of human reality apart from the norms and standards set forth in sacred Scriptures.

The "free" sexual norms of contemproary humanist America, for instance, were introduced by humanists in various ways: through music lyrics, Hollywood, TV, university dorms. So, just because it does not recognize the transcendent God of the Scriptures, does NOT mean that it's not a "religion" (ordering system) - god-less though it be. The bottom line is how ideas affect the social mileu, not which god they espouse - Jehovah or Man.

But wait! humanism does have a god - and the god is YOU! homo sapiens. To humanists, MAN is the measure of all things and the arbiter of all questions and issues. So not having the God of the Bible - or Allah, or Krishna as the ultimate source of wisdom and truth is a mere technical disclaimer - a way of insisting, against all logic, that there is no Humanist religion opposing the Kingdom/City of God.

So the operative dynamics of systems for ordering reality is the same: no difference whatsoever. The contest between Humanism and Christianity is identical to that between Islam and Christianity, or Mormonism and Christianity. It's all about ordering systems - worldviews.

Humanism is NOT some wholly neutral, above-the-fray truth system that trumps all others because it is man-made, man-centered and dependent on mental speculation and scientism. It is, in fact, a system of relativistic moral chaos and intellectual crazy-quilt, with as many "truths" (opinions) as there are mangods vying for the Nobel peace Prize.

Do you not agree that secular humanism is an ordering system of values, ideas, principles, visions etc.? If not, what the heck is it? Or of what value is it if it's not intent on improving, changing, creating real-life scenarios? as per the War on Poverty, Environmentalism, aboriton "rights", gay marriage, pre- extra- marital sex, etc.? Does it not have "missions" and "sacred" gatherings such as World Rock Whatevers?

It IS a religion!!!!! just with a rival god - MAN.

Thanks to Nikos I no longer consider myself a humanist: man, as a benighted species posing as the acme of evolution, is not inherently all that important in the multiverse. I guess that makes me a Secular Multiversalist?

Thanks to Nikos I no longer consider myself a humanist: man, as a benighted species posing as the acme of evolution, is not inherently all that important in the multiverse. I guess that makes me a Secular Multiversalist?

"Thanks to Nikos I no longer consider myself a humanist" FN

Freddy, I'm overjoyed that you finally see the light; that Humanism is not a viable ordering system; that Man is indeed merely "posing" as the acme of all existence. More correctly, he is wholly deceived and utterly myopic.

However, your journey to the multiversalist religion is simply a shift in ordering systems and not a way out of your dilemma. Now, instead of failed Man, "a benighted species," it is the impersonal Universe that is to be worshipped: i.e. pantheism - or better, nihilism. At least worshipping Man provides a bit of personal warmth and intimacy, as opposed to the cold silence of space. (Unless there really are Borg out there.)

I suppose the Multiversalist Church would suspend a thousand "strings" above their heads in a huge universal dome and imagine all the strange and wonderful realities "out there," making up sci-fi stories for prayers and meditations - or maybe just sit there for hours in still silence. I must admit that the latter beats most of what passes for sermons on the TV these days. But in the end, it will yeild only more silence - and no solutions to the pressing need of suffering humanity.

You just can't "make up" another "religion" that is "the way, the truth and the life;" that brings one into the very presence of the Creator, full of grace and truth and love.
I never cease to be amazed at the things man invents to worship in lieu of the Living God, who has revealed Himself so wonderfully in His Son, and "who giveth us richly all things to enjoy." I guess it's the scriptural "vain things" man cooks up to avoid responsibility before the holy and righteous "Judge of all men."

Despite all the comments surrounding keeping religion out of schools, I can fondly remember as an elementary school kid being led out to a bus, where a lady would lead us in Prayer and Bible study. (Believe, me, I'm not that old, this was just in the 80's) It was really an enjoyable time for me as a child and my parents would never have dreamed of going down to the school or consulting an attorney just because I learned about the Bible there. Actually, I can't consider the topic of this blog without asking what is happening to Christians? Humanistic ideology bleeds through the pulpits quite commonly these days. What I don't understand is how those parents can claim to be Christians, and yet get angry because their children are given access to Bibles in school? It doesn't make sense to me. Now, when or where children are taught their spiritual values should very well be up to the parents, but one would think that as self-proclaimed Christians those parents wouldn't go so far as to sue anyone for doing so, especially through the ACLU, which spends many waking hours dedicated to the stripping away of Christian values from our society. It says a lot about the ole' humanism issue. I don't see how anyone can be a Christian, yet adhere so strongly to the humanistic ideals that are embraced in our society. Doesn't Christian-Humanism seem like quite an oxymoron to anyone else??????

pflOwer74,
"Doesn't Christian-Humanism seem like quite an oxymoron to anyone else??????"................
yes to some of us here it does. on any given night you can hear the fords rusting and humanism creeping in to our churches!

One of the problems we face as Christians today is that the state of the Church is so woefully below what it must be to combat opposing viewpoints, like Humanism. We are undercut at almost every turn by some scandal or luny-bin crackpot who "claims" to represent the Faith. It is all because there is, and has been for some time, a singular lack of sound biblical instruction in our churches (most, at any rate). Until we
understand the need for full-orbed, in-depth Scriptural teaching in our homes, churches and Christian schools we will continue to see Humanism et al. making more and more headway in our culture.

With anti-Christian bias, even presecution, on the rise, we had better take this task MUCH more seriously. Platitudes, emotionalism and proof-texting won't cut it. Only ardent, serious and intelligent study of scripture and sound theology will produce able, fearless and Spirit-filled apologists of the Faith.

Humanists, atheists and neo-marxists don't mind effete, shallow, uninformed religionists. But as soon as Christians start understanding the implications of the Law/Word of God, and begin to implement it in the public square they immediately go into opposition/destruct mode. Such is the situation today. Let us "fight the good fight" under the victorious standard of our risen and ascended Messianic King.