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From hostility to hospitality?

One of the first calls I got this morning was from a man who said stories like this do nothing but 'legitimize' criminal activities and hurt 'hardworking Americans.'
A woman at the conference said last year as she saw immigrants working in fields in 100-degree weather she knew it wasn't a job she would ever do.
The caller labeled himself a Christian -- I wonder how he would have defended himself had he been among those who pointed out that in his faith, Jesus was also an immigrant.

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namtac said:

Well, regardless of the citizenship status of Jesus in the days of the Roman Empire, I should think that the Christian message of loving all neighbors - even the "disrespectable" or "alien" ones - ought to be taken seriously. But people can be odd at times. They'll find ways to rationalize their fears and hatreds if there's a way.

You know, Nancy, I was listening to a podcast the other week, about the Dust Bowl, and the Great Depression. People who had lived respectable lives lost everything and ended up living in cardboard shanties all over California. In that sort of extreme, less than a full lifetime ago here in America, I expect ALL such people would have gladly become sharecroppers, regardless of the heat. Some people who don't have memories of that sort of desperation often have extremely limited imaginations, sadly.

Darryl [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

My question on this article regards how the father of Mr. Castro lost his farming job after passage of the NAFTA legislation? How many American citizens have lost homes and more as a result of NAFTA and CAFTA?

Yet, these same Americans have not illegally entered countries overburdening already overburdened education and other systems. They are lucky to receive any benefits to which their tax dollars are reportedly used.

Lastly, could someone explain this to me in plain, clear, and simple English; "...wallet-sized cards in Spanish and English listing their rights if stopped by the police." Exactly what rights does a person without a visa, etc. have in the US? Without the proper documentation, I was taught that a person had no rights in the US. Was my education incorrect? Have the laws changed since I was in school?

I have no problems whatsoever with a person seeking to better him/herself and/or family when done so in the proper way through proper channels. However, when the basic and simple laws are not followed, how can we expect the others to be followed/adhered?

Shalom

Nikos said:

The fact is ALL Americans are immigrants – even the Indians came here over the Bearing Straight, displacing one another in the process. The difference today is that a massive wave of ILLEGALS has compromised our culture, unifying linguistic tradition, and our socio-economic infrastructure, causing financial trauma to states and localities struggling to feed illegal immigrant demands for government assistance. They broke our laws, ignored the due process of legal immigration and have developed elaborate ways to exploit welfare provisions that were NEVER meant to handle such a load.

It is little wonder that the common working class American has reacted to these uninvited and burdensome disruptions. He is also very much aware of the drug trafficking, diseases, crime, job displacement, and tax burden it has brought. Add to this the mass Latino demonstrations DEMANDING more welfare and amnesty for law-breaking, threats to “take back” the Southwest for Mexico, and Spanish labels on almost everything and you have legitimate concern and opposition.

It’s easy for gatherings such as the one cited above to spout their liberal bleeding-heart nonsense as they ignore the true realities that ILLEGAL immigration has caused. All they are doing is stroking their leftist egos at the people’s expense. Most Americans are more than willing to accommodate legal, well-regulated, gradual immigration. But this virtual invasion has caused understandable opposition. It’s high time it is stopped at the border and our laws applied to all in the US illegally – as well as new laws (such as in Oklahoma) to limit welfarism and cave-in policies (amnesty).

This meeting’s appeal to conscience and biblical concern is simply ego-stroking, guilt manipulation on their part. It fails to face the stark realities of the situation and the affects it is having on working-class American citizens. But then what can you expect of the religious Obamist left. They seem to have little problem trashing our national culture and traditions as they pander to Marxist (Democrat left wing) elements in our media, universities and government. The unfortunate cases that are paraded out to justify amnesty and open borders are simply manipulative smoke screens, designed to hide the harsh and ominous realities of the situation. Fortunately, many are seeing through it and want decisive action to stop the influx and process immigrants legally and effectively.

Nancy McLaughlin said:

According to those at the conference, they have a right to ask for an interpreter, and if one can't be found, the police can't interrogate. They also have the right to an attorney, but not a court-appointed attorney. If I misunderstood, I hope someone corrects me.

I guess, the dangerous conditions they faced just astounds me, and reminds me how complex the topic. The bigger question is --- What do we do now?

Also, would we really do those jobs?

Darryl [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

Nancy, it seems realistic that if the officer and the culprit are not able to communicate, that an interpreter would be necessary. And if the two are unable to communicate, then an interrogation is not possible. That is lunacy for anyone to propose otherwise. Who pays for the interpreter?

Just a few more musings on this matter.

Shalom

Nikos said:

What we should do now is what we do whenever our laws are broken: prosecute the law breakers. We should have a massive, nationwide, though gradual (six months or so) government initiated (federal, state, and local) repatriation campaign.

What we desperately need is a LIMITED legal entry program, fully regulated and fairly applied, while our borders are completely sealed. What we are seeing is a massive population shift that will erode our national identity and degrade our already ailing and strained society. But sychophant leaders in Washington in both parties are content to pander to the growing Hispanic vote and let the malaise continue to fester.

If immigrants want to work on a peicemeal, seasonal basis, temporary visas can be offered. Anchor baby status should be revoked for illegals. They should receive NO privileges, welfare or special treatment. Law-breakers are criminals and should be treated as such. It sounds tough, but the integrity and well being of our society demands prompt and effective action. What is bad now will only become horrendous in the future.

Accomodating illegals only exacerbates the problem causing many more to crash our borders. They'll follow the gravy train, and we'll go broke and lose our culture if the influx continues unabated and unopposed. But politicians won't talk about this nasty reality. Legal Americans of all ethinic stipes are becoming disgusted with the whole tawdry affair, and I fear the social unrest that will erupt if their just concerns continue to be ignored by the insulated Washington elite.

namtac said:

"Also, would we really do those jobs?"

If we found ourselves in the same life situation as the illegals who ARE doing those jobs, I expect so. If you found yourself out of work, destitute, and unemployable in a "good" job, wouldn't YOU jump at the chance to earn ANY money, even if it meant scrubbing toilets, making up hotel beds, or working in fields? Or are you thinking yo'd have a social safety net to take you out of that sort of need?

I know I worked in some fields here locally right after getting married, and I was happy to get the little money that that meant. I was doing my best to support my family.

It just seems to me that anyone who thinks any job is "beneath them" hasn't learned the dirty lessons that true poverty tends to teach its victims. Or perhaps, they did learn them once upon a time and managed to forget. Myself, I prefer to keep those lessons in mind.

Nikos said:

"Also, would we really do those jobs?"

I believe that we have all the low-wage workers we need at the present time - and perhaps have had for some time now. And I do not know who the "we" is in this question. There are plenty of poor, struggling Euros, Asians, Am. Indians, legal Hispanics, etc. who would, and could, do low-wage, entry level jobs.

This question is just another excuse the third-world-loving, new voter-loving Demoncratic Left is using to push their agenda (the destruction of dominant, prosperous American capitalism). In other words, it aids thier socialistic plans.

We are not talking about the real job market in this economy; we are talking about the invasion of our nation by a flood of desperate third-world victims - huge numbers - that have nothing to do with labor demonds, but everything to do with desperate refugees from failed Latin American oligarchies produced by centuries of thoroughly non-democratic traditions, who exploit large Mestizo populations for whom they care nothing: a stiuation ripe for Marxist take-overs, raging poverty, and large under class migrations. The true solution is in the radical transformation of these Latin American societies along deomocratic, Biblical, and capitalistic lines. Until that happens we will be the repository of their failures.

The stable, democratic American populace (of all legal ethnic backgrounds) are now being asked to accomodate an illegal, chaotic, finincially debilitating population influx, and a corresponding erosion of their culture, language and sovereignty. Bi and tri lingual countries would give their right arm to have a unified language scenario, and here we are promoting the demise of it in our society - all to provide cheap labor for unprincipled business interests: NOT because it's compassionate and good for the American lower class, but for VOTES - pure and simple.

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