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The death of Jesse Helms

"He was a man of compassion, sincere moral conviction and a strong Christian." Franklin Graham on the former senator's life.

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namtac said:

Perhaps it was a good thing that Helms finally changed his mind regarding AIDS, even though it took far longer than it should have.

But his political legacies of divisiveness, some of the slimiest election campaigns ever devised, and staunch support for Apartheid policies in South Africa, all tend to give a negative view of the man and of the state that enthusiastically elected him time and again. I, for one, will in no way miss this man.

mrs furniture said:

You will be the only one who doesn't miss this man. Surely your decision was racial.

namtac said:

Hm. First off, I know a good number of people around town who have very low opinions of the Senator. So I'm hardly alone in my reaction. In fact, I'm actually very civil and reserved in comparison with some folks that I've heard.

Secondly, can a white guy really be racially upset at another white guy? :)

Alice said:

namtac, I think Mrs Furniture must be one of those elderly " race-baiters" like Senator No himself.

Anyway, here are some more reasons to " love" Jesse
his support for El Salvadoran death squad leader Roberto D'Aubuisson, about whom he had said, "All I know is that D'Aubuisson is a free enterprise man and deeply religious;" his support for the apartheid government of South Africa and antipathy to the African National Congress and Nelson Mandela; his support of Augusto Pinochet during and after the revelation of the horrific abuses of the dictator's regime.

And, oh yeah- all his slanderous comments about gays and lesbians. Except his granddaugter, who ran his last senate campaign, just happens to be a " you know what..." I think he liked the word" sodomite." I guess she didn't bother to tell him when she managed the campaign and he later endorsed her run for a judgeship.
Oh, and all the people dying from AIDS who lived in the US. While ol Jesse might have given a widow's mite for AIDS in Africa, he never helped those in the US- only said they brought it on themselves. Refised to meet with Ryan White's mom and ket voting against the bill named for him ( Ms Furniture might need to look that name up as she probably doesn't know who he was.

Darryl [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

Alice, good points noted in the posting.

I have great empathy for the Helms family, as the death of their husband, father, grandfather surely grieves them. I have met the man and did not see anything great; even though I voted for him twice before seeing the Light!

I also recall seeking the Senator's assistance in a matter regarding my father and the Veteran's Administration. Senator John Edwards' office responded, Helms' did not!

May Jesse Helms find love and rest in the audience of a God he refused to allow all an seat at the table of.

Shalom

Nikos said:

I can remember sitting around the radio when I was in college and putting Mr. Helms down in derision with my liberal friends. When I "saw the Light" many years later, I grew to have a more respectful and approving attitude towards him. Although I did not agree with EVERYthing he said or did in the halls of Congress, or even before; I came to resonate with his conservative agenda in general.

He may have been myopic and somewhat obtuse on certain issues, but he had a stubborn resolve and pithiness when it came to advancing conservative legislation; which cannot be said for the compliant and wishy-washy bunch of "elephants" we have in Congress now.

Oh, by the way, Alice, women cannot be “Sodomites,” technically speaking, without unnatural aids. And, in a sense, gays with AIDS HAVE brought it on themselves (along with a host of other maladies and diseases). When you vitiate God’s design, you must pay the piper sooner or later. To deny this gay reality is to be utterly ignorant of their MO.

This does NOT mean that we should not treat anyone who is sick and in pain. And I understand that there are many more straights with AIDS than gays in the world. Even enemy soldiers are treated, if possible, in war zones. Jesus had compassion on sinners (which we all are) and so must we; even while condemning all sexual sin (He told the woman caught in adultery to “Go and sin no more”).

It is unfair, however, to cater EXCESSIVELY to AIDS research and treatment, at the expense of other terrible and virulent diseases, if it’s in response to pressure from the rich gay lobby in an effort to remove an obstacle to the free exercise of their perversion. I commend Sen. Helms for having had the chutzpah to publicly tell it like it is regarding this issue. Most lack the spine today for fear of the Pink Gestapo.

Nikos said:

I can remember sitting around the radio when I was in college and putting Mr. Helms down in derision with my liberal friends. When I "saw the Light" many years later, I grew to have a more respectful and approving attitude towards him. Although I did not agree with EVERYthing he said or did in the halls of Congress, or even before; I came to resonate with his conservative agenda in general.

He may have been myopic and somewhat obtuse on certain issues, but he had a stubborn resolve and pithiness when it came to advancing conservative legislation; which cannot be said for the compliant and wishy-washy bunch of "elephants" we have in Congress now.

Oh, by the way, Alice, women cannot be “Sodomites,” technically speaking, without unnatural aids. And, in a sense, gays with AIDS HAVE brought it on themselves (along with a host of other maladies and diseases). When you vitiate God’s design, you must pay the piper sooner or later. To deny this gay reality is to be utterly ignorant of their MO.

This does NOT mean that we should not treat anyone who is sick and in pain. And I understand that there are many more straights with AIDS than gays in the world. Even enemy soldiers are treated, if possible, in war zones. Jesus had compassion on sinners (which we all are) and so must we; even while condemning all sexual sin (He told the woman caught in adultery to “Go and sin no more”).

It is unfair, however, to cater EXCESSIVELY to AIDS research and treatment, at the expense of other terrible and virulent diseases, if it’s in response to pressure from the rich gay lobby in an effort to remove an obstacle to the free exercise of their perversion. I commend Sen. Helms for having had the chutzpah to publicly tell it like it is regarding this issue. Most lack the spine today for fear of the Pink Gestapo.

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