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California is the biggest example of gay people married and other gay people not able to get married -- in the same state. Some people are heartbroken and others are having a huge sigh of relief over the recent ruling in that state. Realistically -- what's got to happen?
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Realistically, I expect that society will continue to move toward accepting gay marriage, until it's legal throughout that country. Shortly before the last set of states agree to it, I would expect Christian churches to suddenly find support for it in the Bible, just as they found support for ending slavery, allowing women's votes and inter-racial marriage after those social changes were a "done deal."
Posted on May 27, 2009 10:38 AM
nemo,
many 'christian' churches already support gay marriage. some christians on this blog are gay. if a believer is tied to their churches belief structure and not basing the own beliefs based upon the revelation which God has provided them - then they could be led down most any path. as you must be aware there are still many Christians who have a spine and will not be subject to heresy. just as atheist can't be heaped into the same mold, neither can all Christians.
Posted on May 27, 2009 9:57 PM
Buz, I have a question for you: suppose a man wanted to have more than one living wife at a time, as did many heroes of Biblical faith such as Abraham and David. The Bible nowhere forbids this practice except to bishops and deacons. Would you object, and if so, on what grounds?
Gay marriage has cultural momentum and is legal in several states already. I think that trend will continue, unless a Christian backlash imposes a theocratic tyranny on the nation, which I think unlikely. One interesting thing is that laws against gay marriage are not "discriminatory," in the sense that gays have the same right as anyone else to marry any consenting adult of the opposite gender who is not too closely related. I and my wife of fourteen years have proven it can work. Discrimination exists when one group lives under different laws than another.
Of course, they object that they don't want to marry someone of the opposite gender, but that's a different issue; it doesn't make the laws different for them than for straights, unless you want to claim that there is a "civil right" to marry two people if you want, or your son or daughter or other close relation, or your dog, for that matter. Is "marrying whoever one wishes" a civil right? No. Should it be? That is the question. Calling gay marriage a "civil rights issue" is inaccurate, though it is an effective propaganda term, giving gays a kind of reflected virtue from real civil rights struggles.
Posted on May 27, 2009 10:19 PM