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Wednesday, July 27, 2005

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Media soft on Rove

Now that we have a vacancy in Supreme Court and another bombing in the United Kingdom, it seems that our esteemed news media have decided that Karl Rove is off the hook. Karl Rove leaked classified information on an undercover CIA agent to discredit a critic of the Bush Iraq policy.

If this kind of scandal had happened in the Clinton administration, the papers and television news shows would be on the story 24/7. If this kind of scandal had happened on Clinton's watch, the Senate would be on its feet in an uproar and calling for special prosecutors.

Why does the Bush administration, with its missing WMD, tacit sanctioning of torture tactics, cover-ups and retaliatory leaks, get a free pass?

Elizabeth Olson
High Point

Comments (25)

Good question. Short answer: Bush is a member of the same party as the one in charge of Congress.

"Karl Rove leaked classified information on an undercover cia agent"? You have proof of this,Liz? Val was not "undercover" as you put it. Again I say she drove every day to from her home to langley where she worked as a clerk at cia hq. Anyone with a brain could have known she worked there,if they cared to follow her.
"To discredit a Bush critic". Wilson has already been proven a liar. Karl Rove had no need to discredit him.
Finally, the true meaning of your letter is revealed in the last line, missing wmds,etc. You should have made this the first line as this is the true thrust of your letter, to bash Bush.

I can easily answer your question Ms. Olsen. The person who will sit on the Supreme Court for the next 20-25 years is real, hence newsworthy. Bombs going off in London blowing people into small pieces is real, hence newsworthy. A half baked plot by Democrats to oust Rove is not real, hence not newsworthy.

Ms. Olson,

"If this kind of scandal had happened in the Clinton administration"

You've got to be kidding. There were scores of scandals in the Clinton administration for the press to write about, and they all made this matter seem like a pittance, and the press pretty much gave Clinton a pass on most of them. This particular "scandal" has the feel of a made-up story. Much to do about very little. Joe Wilson is the biggest louse in this entire story. He's been playing politics fast and lose with the Demos from day one.

We'll have the facts on this story soon enough. If Rove committed any crime, then he'll do the time, but let's let the grand jury and special prosecutor do their work. In the interim, everyone can play their little political games in the press.

If Turd Blossom did no wrong why all the repub lying. Why would Scott McClellan swear many many times that that he asked Turd Blossom personally if he did the deed and Turd Blossom denied it. Why did the repubs lie? I know it's a natural inclination for reeps to lie - still if no wrong was done why did the whole white house lie about this.

"Val was not "undercover" as you put it."

There was a memo that was handed to White House staff before the leak, and it mentioned Ms. Wilson's position in the CIA. The memo was marked "secret." One would think that it would be at least worth Rove's while to ask if her status was supposed to be a secret before "accidentally" mentioning her to a reporter or two.

"Again I say she drove every day to from her home to langley where she worked as a clerk at cia hq. Anyone with a brain could have known she worked there, if they cared to follow her."

Are you actually asking us to believe that no person who drives to work at CIA Headquarters Langley could be classified "secret" and should therefore be considered open to public knowledge? And now she was a "clerk," I see. How many "clerks" are there that can authorize a trip to Africa by an ambassador?

Are you aware of the number of former CIA agents who are complaining about this leak? Would any of them give a hoot about a leak of a person who should be commonly known to be a CIA employee?

There was a dirty political trick pulled here, and no amount of obfuscation by the RNC can eliminate that fact. They may pull the focus of media scrutiny away, but the Turds are still in Blossom in Washington.

Valerie Plame outed herself, she was the darling of cocktails parties in DC as the "secret squirrel." She finagled to send her husband on a CIA trip to Niger, knowing he would come back with a negative report and further hurt the Bush administration, which they both hate. She violated federal election lasws by using an alias to donate money to John Kerry's campaign.
I hope her and her sham husband both go to jail.

Elizabeth, there is media coverage out there, you just have to search for it as opposed to relying on the N&R, whose management has apparently decided that covering "local" news is their priority. Case in point, last week, a large portion of the front page covered that poor man who took too much viagra and his gold-digging decades younger bride who tried to have sex with him while he lay unconscious. Meanwhile, same day, the assasination of two Sunnis helping to write Iraq's constitution appeared on the back page. Back to Rove, today's Washinton Post has an informative front page article summarizing the Plame investigation. I included an excerpt for Yard Dog and Lonnie as it again refutes the rumors blown about by Rush Limbaugh and his ilk, that Plame had a low level desk job, but at the same time carried enough clout to "finagle" the Niger trip for her husband. "Harlow, the former CIA spokesman, said in an interview yesterday that he testified last year before a grand jury about conversations he had with Novak at least three days before the column was published. He said he warned Novak, in the strongest terms he was permitted to use without revealing classified information, that Wilson's wife had not authorized the mission and that if he did write about it, her name should not be revealed.

Harlow said that after Novak's call, he checked Plame's status and confirmed that she was an undercover operative. He said he called Novak back to repeat that the story Novak had related to him was wrong and that Plame's name should not be used. But he did not tell Novak directly that she was undercover because that was classified."

Eric,A clerk cannot authorize a trip to africa,that is why she arranged through her superiors to have him sent. Besides, I thought it was Cheney who sent him?

"Bush is a member of the same party as the one in charge of Congress."

Congratulations Eric! You finally get it, the winners get to run things!

Regardless of which "desk" Plame was flying, her status did not fall under the requirement of the Identities Protection Act. She had not been posted overseas within the last 5 years, there is no evidence that Rove learned of her identity through classified sources, and he did not "out" her by any stretch of the imagination. She had already "outed" herself.
This entire BS case rests on Rove's statment, "Yeah, I heard that, too." Should we prosecute someone based on this statement? Ridiculous. This is just another straw-clutching attempt by the defeated Democrats to destroy the current administration by any means, at any cost.
No wonder nobody votes for them anymore.

None of you idiots have explained the cover up. If no wrong done why all the lying?

Yellowdog, I think you let all this get to you to much, and I understand, because it is very frustrating that liars and traitors like Karl Rove get to act as if they were virtuous patriots. As Mac points out,

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Congratulations Eric! You finally get it, the winners get to run things!
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and in this case, that means run things right into the ground.

Always remember that no matter how much people like Rove get away with now, no matter how much damage they do in their lives to America and the world, eventually, they will rot in Hell for all eternity.

And then you'll feel better.

:-)

Tony said: "Always remember that no matter how much people like Rove get away with now, no matter how much damage they do in their lives to America and the world, eventually, they will rot in Hell for all eternity."

Come on Tony, I agree most Democratic politicians will meet this fate because of the damage they do to the country, but not all. I think Joe Lieberman and Zell Miller are safe to go to heaven.

Now I feel better.

:-)

But Dan, the two people you mention are Republicans, so they are slated for Hell sure as can be.

:-)

To paraphrase John Prine by way of Dubya, "Burn on, mighty Turd Blossom."

Wow! Looney Toon Liberal Libthink is alive and well in Greensboro. One can almost hear the furious spinning of the propellers atop their tin foil hats.

Yeah Robert, unfortunately Guilford County is a blue county after all.

What is the kid's obsession with the "turd blossom" bit. It makes them look like children with their thumbs in their ears and saying "nya,nya,nya.

Ask "the kid" Dubya where "Turd Blossom" comes from, it's his name for Rove, not mine.

mailto:president@whitehouse.gov

in case you needed the address...

I sure Dubya *says* "nyeah, nyeah" but I'm also sure he couldn't spell it.

Last but not least, you know what they say about people who think everyone *else* is crazy.

:-)

With utmost regard for the outsiders in a blue county (a blue county in North Carolina - it must surely be God's chosen country - it doesn't get any better than this),
Tony Ledford

"..... Guilford County is a blue county ... ".

After a scandalous - highly negative - divisive campaign, 17% of America voted for W.

After a terribly managed - obviously less effective - but certainly more honorable campaign, 15% of America voted for K.

Conclusions:

1 -- That's hardly a mandate by any defination.
2 -- Is Kerry the best alternative America has to offer?
3 -- What's Paris Hilton doing today - I'm sure America wants to know.

".....Guilford County is a Blue County...."

That's why we have Democratic county commissioners who vote themselves a 42% raise and then two of them take a taxpayer paid trip to Hawaii.

JDR:

Your conclusions

1 A win is a win, no spin

2 The Dems picked Kerry, we didn't. Look at the bright side, they almost picked Howard Screamin Dean, the defeat would have been greater. But rest assured, Dean is now spokesman for the party, an example of how out of touch this party is.

3 Gotta agree with you on this. A lot of Americans care more about Paris Hilton's antics than the future of this country.

Dan you are obsessed with sean hannity - which is worse. At least Paris has good skin.

Forget it yallerdawg, Paris Hilton won't have a thing to do with you. I could call Rosie O'Donnell for you.

My real problem with ""A win is a win, no spin", is that it converst everyting into a football game -- my Panthers beat your Vikings kind of thing.

I'm not specifically point at you, Dan - we are are at times guilty - but it is so rampant in this blog, in MSM (point-counterpoint shouting match crap), in Congress - every topic is us-vs-them, right-or-wrong one sided monologues.

Frankly, it makes me somewhere between sad and sick to my stomach.

Um Dan - thanks but Rosie is gay. Actually my allusion to skin was a shot at Hannity he has a skin problem that he is very sensitive about. You see he is not a conservative he is an ENTERTAINOR. When his skin is all blotchy and nasty looking (kind of like an alligator's butt) he doesn't look so good on camera.

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