I have a problem with the tag "pro war people". This is meant to portray people who support the president as a bunch of war mongers. Not so,imo.
I support the president and his attempt to protect the people of this country from another 9/11. I don't know anyone who is "pro war".

But to answer your question Paul, as one who was drafted during the vietnam war,my answer is "yes".

Draftee, thanks for your service. Ever notice how the term pro-war is ok with these people, but the term pro-abortion is not, it has to be called pro-choice?

I've never met anyone who is pro-war. Use of that term diminishes the writers credibility.

Wonder what his draft status is/was. Pro-coward ?

Paul,

Yes.

Nice dodge Dan.

What a stupid question.
So what does the draft have to do with the reasons we're fighting the war? Why would a draft make any difference to the people that understand what's going on?

No, it's not stupid question. Agreed, there is some percentage of naive persons who believe the stupid rhetoric that this war is about our freedom, and they wouldn't change their mind or hesitate to go. But I think there's a larger percentage who would change their mind once they realize they might have to pay with their life.

A corollary question is: How would you feel if it was your son or daughter ot relative who was drafted? Of course, to the core naive people the question is the same. But a much larger percentage would definately not be happy.

....good example of the straw man argument, Mr. Moscato...

Thanks Yvonne, I enjoy semantics.

"....good example of the straw man argument, Mr. Moscato..."

I disagree. It's an interesting question & he makes no attempt to answer it. A strawman is a weak or inacurate characterization of an opponents argument for the purpose of easily knocking it down. Mr. Moscato leaves it up to the pro-war (anti-peace? pro-death? (just kidding guys (;-} )or whatever they like to call themselves) folks to answer it.

I think it's an interesting question because there is no doubt in my mind that Vietnam became so unpopular because all classes were eligible to serve (though frankly the load was still largely borne by the working class). Iraq though unpopular isn't causing much of a backlash because we have an volunteer army. It's more of an intellectual question than than anything else because it sure ain't gonna happen.
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Dan,

"...but the term pro-abortion is not, it has to be called pro-choice?"

Your point is correct. On the other hand I've never heard anyone refer to themselves as anti-choice. We all characterize things to suit our point of view.

"Thanks Yvonne, I enjoy semantics."

Dan, I'd be the last person to accuse you of being anti-semantic. (;-}

I agree with draftee that majority(99%) of people would not clasify themselves as pro-war.
But could it be the writer meant pro-iraq war here and only left out Iraq for what ever reasons. Afterall there are pro and anti- IRAQ war people here on the blog.
And could it be that his point is that maybe,JUST MAYBE, many or some of the gun-ho people whose son and daughters biggest worry at the moment is who will be their date this weekend might have another opinion of this war if their son and daughter got a letter from uncle sam inviting them to a up close and personal experience as to what an Iraqi insurgent/terrorists are really like.

Has anyone heard this new song from a soldier from iraq about his experience there?

What song is that Hayes? What is the title? Give us some information so we can research it and see if it is available in the area.

Shalom

Yeah,yeah,Hayes. What song is that?? Give us the title!! We need to research it so we can have a new club to whack these pro-war wackos over the head with!!!

yard dog, those are not my intentions. An informed, educated person listens to many perspectives to form an opinion.

I only wanted the information so that I could possibly listen to the song.

I am saddend that ANYONE misconstrued what was written. What is even sadder is how people are belittled for even asking a simple question. And worse yet, that I am even taking the time to explain myself to some who could care less about my reasons for asking for the aforementioned information!

Shalom

I'm asking if you know the title. I heard it the other day on CNN with him singing and talking about the song and the war. I thought it said it was climbing the country charts now. I will go out on a limb and give best song chances at the country awards.

But the words are excellent and should give both sides,pro and anti, a moment of pause.

Check Arron Brown,cnn, show from wednesday(24th) or thursday(25th)

Could the song be Luke Stricklin's, "American by God's Amazing Grace,"?

give that man a cigar!! Yes it is!!

I certainly would like to see the draft come back into the American life. I would alter it just a little and give no exemptions for any reason. Student, CO or what have you. Everyone living in this great country should be tasked with service of one form or another.

Mac: I'm 100% with you -- Everyone should servein the military - in some form (could be in a VA hospital, as a Minister, as a ground trooper, durn near anything - but a common heritage.

I think the Founding Fathers would agree - a Militia - every one with a common experience. It is a major unifying force - and Lord knows we need a major unifying force.

Hayes, welcome baaaaacccck!! Missed you. How was your two week vacation? I know two weeks is normal over there, but stateside it's virtually unheard of.

I saw the CNN interview with Luke Stricklin. The only reason I was watching CNN is that I was in a hotel that didn't have FNC.

Glad you are back.

JDR, I disagree not only with you, with all who advocate a 100% conscription.

Not even the Found Fathers required 100% conscription. My Moravian & Quaker ancestors were exempted from conscription, this dates back to the Revolutionary era. I have written examples of where my Moravian ancestors were exempted from conscription.

A person with a religious objection to war/conflict should be allowed objector status. The Founding Fathers saw this because of the status of the Church of England.

These are only two of the several groups who were exempted militia service.

Shalom

Dan
Let me say it is good to be back. The night before we left, I woke up and found our bed wet. Our dog which sleeps between our legs at the foot of the bed apparently had a bladder infection and pissed in the bed and did not know it until I woke her up. This little event prior to th trip for the most part sums up the trip.
But one good missed chance you would like. I went up to the Neuschwanstein castle and took a horse carriage up to the top. With me for this trip were about 7 syrians,part of a larger group I would later see. My first thought was many here from the blog would enjoy this moment and the second thought I should have worn my "United we stand" tshirt for the occasion.
And trish and yvonne back at you.