Wearing red-rose colored glasses, Tony?

Tony,

forget your med's again?

If you lived in a cave,who would you want as president of America?

Great lte Tony. But remember, voting on toothless, nonbinding resolutions IS taking action to the democrats. They strive on symbolism over substance to appease their core supporters on the far left fringe, but lack the stones to take any action that will absolutely lead to the end of the war as this would leave a footprint that would hang around their necks like a noose come election time.

Symbolic though it may be, it should make for a rockin' good time in the caves of Afghanistan tonight as their resolution is celebrated.

Doggie:

Osama - who does live in a cave - wanted us to NOT elect GWB.

Dr. Ayman Muhammad Rabaie al-Zawahiri, living in relative luxury (although he has lost his family and fortune in the pursuit of justice as he sees it), wanted us TO elect GWB. "The Americans are facing a delicate situation [in Iraq] ... If they withdraw, they lose everything, if they stay, they will bleed to death."

"... toothless, nonbinding resolutions ... symbolism over substance to appease their core supporters ... lack the stones to .. end the war ... bla bla bla.

Remind us what the Repubicans have done, Meow.

To me the term "nonbinding resolution" is an oxymoron.

Resolution: a resolve or determination: to make a firm resolution to do something.

Nonbinding: not binding.

Neo: "They strive on symbolism over substance to appease their core supporters on the far left fringe..."

I agree with you on the Dems intent Neo, but a nonbinding resolution will not appease the far left fringe. Nothing short of every soldier out of Iraq, complete defeat, and impeachment of Bush will satisfy the far left fringe.

So the Dems lose either way. Do something "binding" like cutting funds for the war and they are seen as defeatists. Wasting weeks of valuable time passing nonbinding resolutions and they are seen as wimps by everyone. Not such a good start for the new Congress.

"good" letter

Oh, boy! Another letter of no substance from Guilford County's loud mouth partisan hack, Tony Mostshitti. Just as the Sun rises in the East and sets in the West, you can count on Tony to blame all things bad on Democrats and all things good on his beloved borrow and spend Republican Party.

Tony, hate to burst your bubble, but the terrorists lured your hero right down into the "tar baby" known as Iraq. If you'd stop defending a failed foreign policy, and start thinking like an American, you might realize that. But by all means, please keep sending in these ridiculous letters as they get funnier and funnier. To most, they are like a turd in a punchbowl, but I love to see you make a total ass of yourself in print. Mark today on your calendar, and send in another one 30 days from now!! LOL!

Mikeg,
You have to admit, his letters that are meant to be serious, are in fact laughable. If Jesus registered Democrat, this guy would lead the charge to crucify him. He's a one act play.

Amazingly he forgets that his GOP has:

1. Created largest government bureacracy
2. Gone from surplus to mind boggling deficit
3. refused to provide ANY oversight to war
4. supported a war into a country that had absolutely NOTHING to do with the events of 9/11
5. continued to support a President who has all but gutted the Constitution of the United States.

Yep, ol' Tony Mo is a one hit wonder of the right wing. Maybe Tony should write comedy.

Tony,
How do you square DICK "Five Deferments" Cheney with your "He man" war talk? Oh, and why don't you read a little history of the Vietnam War???!
The premise for your rant is false. Oh, well. When has that ever mattered to the right wing nutjobs.

Okay Tony. That was your cue to come at me with guns "ablaze" so that your kitty cat and parrots can give you the "atta boys" you crave.

DD: One thing I really enjoy about Tony's letters is watching how worked up you get over them!!

Remind us what the Republicans have done, Dan.

"I agree with you on the Dems intent Neo, but a nonbinding resolution will not appease the far left fringe."

I don't know Dan, the left wingnuts place high value on symbolism. Look at how they worship the UN and go these useless websites to sign worthless petitions for such causes as 'save the children' or 'help stop the genocide in Darfur'. What does these useless actions accompolish other than create a feeling of doing something so they can tell themselves they have 'done something'? Much as with this toothless Iraq resolution. All it has done is encourage OBL and co. and give them reason to celebrate their victory in the US house of rep.

I understand your point Neo and agree with it, I just think Bush/Iraq is a bit different than the run of the mill "for the children" stuff. I don't think the far left will be satisfied with a nonbinding resolution. Maybe it's a first step for the Dems to raise the white flag, but they need more and soon.

The '08 election is already well underway and the Dem candidates are squawking about who is more antiwar than the other. So far Obama seems to be leading in that department. Hillary is dogged by her vote no matter what she does.

http://www.listenhillary.org/article.php?list=type&type=115

"Remind us what the Republicans have done, Dan."

For one thing they have abandoned conservative principles of limited govt. and protecting our borders. I lament that.

They have also screwed up in Iraq by running a PC war.

On the plus side there have not been any terrorist attacks on our soil since 9/11. They cut my taxes, I'll approve of that no matter who does it. The economy is strong.

Believe me they have been FAR from perfect but the idea of algore in the White House sends chills up my spine. He would be encouraging terrorists to construct more environmentally friendly IEDs to reduce their carbon footprint :)

Uh oh, TOMO stopped taking his medicine again. He and folks like him are the only reason I want Hillary in '08. If we think they're nuts now...........

Dan,

Did you ever think that is Al Gore had assumed office when he was elected you would have never heard the term IED?

Make that "if Al Gore" not "is Al Gore"

JDR,

I agree. GWB is Al Quaeda's choice to lead America. They never would have made the progress that they have made without the constant missteps that we have made over the last 6 years. We had the world unified against them in 2001. Now we have the world unified against us in 2006. Is that because they're that brillant or that we have behaved incredibly dumb?

algore was elected? Oh that's right, he was, the Tooth Fairy told me so.

Sure we would have heard of the term IED, only in NYC, LA, Chicago, etc. instead of Baghdad.

yea. who knows.

I just read a clip off the Web - Cheney is in Pakistan talking about how al Qaida is regrouping ... The funny part for me: I believe it.

Now would Al Gore have done a better job? who knows ... but I hope we can all agree no one could have done a worse job.

What a freaking mess.

So here's another:

My new friend Biff is worried about g-men pullin cash from his wallet by forcing with Carbon Credits due to the Great Global Warming Balony.

Of course with the Prez' calling for Ethanol from corn, the price of corn has DOUBLED recently .. naa that won't affect Biff's wallet .. no way .. Corn ain't used for nothing. Good thing the LIEberals aren't sitting in that oval office.

"Sure we would have heard of the term IED, only in NYC, LA, Chicago, etc. instead of Baghdad."

What evidence do you have for that Dan? It's really easy to say anything that comes to your mind but it helps to have some rational behind it. How does getting a hundred folks a month killed in Iraq keep NYC safer? It didn't help the Spanish or Brits to "fight them other there so they didn't have to fight them over here" did it? Does having the worlds only superpower acting irrationally really make for a safer world?

The tooth fairy wasn't allowed to vote in 2000. Jeb Bush had her stopped on the way to the polls.

"What evidence do you have for that Dan?"

None at all. Obviously you didn't get it.

Hint: you made a facetious remark about algore being elected and I returned the volley with a facetious remark about IEDs going off in the USA with algore as prez.

Sorry that one slipped past you Rufus, I thought adding the tooth fairy in there would clue you in. That and my previous statement about algore pushing for more environmentally friendly IEDs. I'll be more serious for the rest of the day.

What I do know is algore is a one phony...er...pony show - global warming. I still wonder why he didn't showcase it while he was veep.

"the price of corn has DOUBLED recently"

That's only going to increase the misery of Mexicans south of the border and encourage more of them to come to the land of milk and ethanol.

Dan,

This is a Moschetti thread. Everything is facetious!

Sorry I went off half-cocked. I didn't read the prior post about friendlier IEDs.

If Gore runs I can't wait to see the signs.
"Re-Elect Gore"

Tony's right on the mark.

When will Liberals learn to follow the example of genuine leaders? Seasoned House Republicans like Howard Coble who aren't afraid to defend this nation and champion the conservative values that have made our country great.

What's that? Howard Coble voted FOR the non-binding resolution. Oh. My bad. And he got a death threat because of it? Yowch.

Ok, then. Walter Jones! Another conservative Republican House Member from right here in North Carolina. We should all follow Walter, then!

Walter CO-WROTE the resolution? Oh. Oops.

Appears this Moschetti guy's not only out of tune with the country, not only out of tune with our state, he's even out of tune with his own neighborhood.

Being that out of tune, he should give American Idol a try. Gotta have a career at something. Punditry appears to be out of the question.

Tony Mostshitti's comments get weirder and weirder with every passing year. The themes of his letters are always about divide and conquer.

He cares little about America but supports everything about the GOP.

He questions the patriotism of anyone who disagrees with his myopic world view, and is a poster child for why only one in five Americans support Bush and his war. Got to hand it to him though, he is a sucker for lost causes.

Prag, sure Tony is a colorful writer but I believe his primary point is the waste of time the House has spent with a....NONBINDING resolution. Again it's an oxymoron as I stated earlier. How can you resolve to do something when you do not have the power to do it?

I resolve to win $200 million in the lottery tomorrow. Think it will work?

"Now these treasonous fools waste days debating meaningless, nonbinding resolutions."

If they really want to make a statement then they should have the balls to cut funding. Instead they come up with a toothless "resolution" in the attempt to placate the populace and then take a week off for Presidents Day. What an accomplishment.

Maybe because the resolution was authored by members of both parties, that threw Moschetti's thinking askew. Bi-partisanship is an alien art form to radicals on both wings.

W flew all the way to San Diego to declare Mission Accomplished on an aircraft carrier. What would you call that resolution, if not non-binding?

I don't want to get lost in semantics. Yes, I see your point that a non-binding resolution serves no definable purpose, other than to send a message.

However, Moschetti was wrong not to at least include its bi-partisan authorship and the fact 17 House Republicans, including Coble, signed it, with many more giving their tacit support although they refused to be signatories.

I'm a registered Republican, but I think there's an enormous swath of common ground untread for too many years. Guys like Moschetti are wearing grooves around the fringes and going nowhere.

Prag, I don't have any problem with politicians and others who disagree with this war. I for one disagree with how it is being waged.

You are right that the resolution sends a message, to Bush, to our soldiers, to those fighting against our soldiers, the third party being the most important.

They know their tactics are working and it is only a matter of time before we pull out. Do you doubt that?

I do place the blame for our poor post invasion strategy on Bush and his advisors. However, if the Dems and concurring Repubs want us outta there then they need to put their money where their mouths are and cut the funding now. Spending weeks on a nonbinding resolution and then taking a week off for Presidents Day illustrates what noodle spined people they are, Coble included.

Anyone else get the whole week off for President's Day? Hell I didn't even get the one day off.

229 democrats and 17 rinos voted for the nonbinding show of support for al-Qaeda. How can you justify criticizing only the democrats, Tonymo? Sheeze. Those 17 rinos are no doubt what put this one in the 'Win' column for obl.

cRock-o-...feller, no one is taking your bait. Your incoherent posts are approaching world traveler level. My advice: Tread carefully.

"The price of corn has DOUBLED .. "That's only going to increase the misery of Mexicans south of the border and encourage more of them to come to the land of milk and ethanol."

... well it's coming from YOUR guy, Dr. Hugh.

I for one have spoken out repeatedly about the folly of Ethanol .. it's so hard to be humble.

Dan:

THey spent a couple days on the admitedly useless "Stop the Surge" discussion.

Can you tell me how much time Congress spent this summer on the Flag Resolution?

lemme quote:

".. wingnuts place high value on symbolism.

What [do] these useless actions accompolish other than create a feeling of doing something so they can tell themselves they have 'done something?"

My only point - when Team Blue does it - it's wasting time; when Team Red does it - it's Truth Justice and the American Way.

A little honesty would suit us all well.

here's a funny I just learned:

The flag burning amendment amendment was originally sponsored in the House of Representatives by Rep. Randy "Duke" Cunningham (R-Calif.)"

Draw your own conclusions.

"... if the Dems and concurring Repubs want us outta there then they need to put their money where their mouths are and cut the funding now."

I thing the problem is a huge lack of consensus about what to do. Equally valid arguments can be made to stay - if we can kick ass - or leave now because we're not going to be allowed to kick ass.

The time to leave gracefully has long past.

In addition to putting this country in the quandary described above, this war has seriously divided folks once had a common goal. Civility and rationale are rapidly leaving the debate .. and it might get ugly in America again - once more the Vietnam comparisons.

"Can you tell me how much time Congress spent this summer on the Flag Resolution?"

I thought that was a waste of time too. Ever since Bush the Elder came up with that idea I thought it was ridiculous. If I buy a flag then I have the right to do what I want with it. No burning others flags against their will, but my own is fair game.

That being said, I don't think comparing the wasting time on flag burning to wasting time with a nonbinding resolution that emboldens our enemies are equal.

I don't recall anybody defending the flag burning debate. Politicians of all stripes pass more than their share of hot air. It's when they vote on - and pass - a resolution (with 229 democrats and 17 rinos) of support for al-Qaeda that it becomes quiet a bit more than hot air. It becomes... hmmm... dare I say the 'T' word?

Thanks Tony....I'm with you.

Tony P Moschetti (336) 882-4731 905 Old Winston Rd,High Point, NC 27265

What was once a consensus ... is no more.

If as a nation, we could have held on to that rail, the "resolution" might then border on treason ...

... however honest debate has for years been squelched in the name of trust-me stay the course - a path even the President must now regret - because that concensus is tragically broken.

These days, I'm not sure we can even have honest and open consideration.

I like the part where the ToMo calls out the Dems for being pacifist wusses "since 1916."

Y'know, the year before Wilson (D) entered us into WW I.

Other than that, and WW II, Korea, and the first several years of Vietnam (which Nixon ran for the last several years), it's hard to argue with him.

" I don't think comparing the wasting time on flag burning to wasting time with a nonbinding resolution that emboldens our enemies are equal."

Dan, with all respect, throwing in "emboldens our enemies" is just over the top. Pardon the comparison, but it DOES sound like something right off of the Fox Noise Channel.

Trying to find fault with Democrats, by Republicans, will only result in the further erosion of support for the war and Bush. Not like there's much more room to go, but for heaven's sake, we have to move from the Cheney type talk into getting out of Iraq. After that, we have to cut out the dancing around and confront Saudi Arabia, where the majority of the 9/11 hijackers came from.

Less Mostshitti and more Howard Coble would be a good model for local righties. Bush and Mostshitti are driving a debate that does not even exist.

" I don't think comparing the wasting time on flag burning to wasting time with a nonbinding resolution about a war are equal"

That better?

"They know their tactics are working and it is only a matter of time before we pull out. Do you doubt that?"

What statement was true in 1985 when they were on their way to throwing out the other super power - the USSR.

What statement is effectively what Osama stated was his war plan: Hit their symbols of economic and military power, draw them into a fight, and bleed them in a protracted war. It will only be a matter of time before they pull out.

BTW - what is a Surge: "a strong, wavelike, forward movement, rush, or sweep" ... which must by definition - also go away: a de facto time-line.

So without the unleash of carpet bombing style damm the torpedoes march to the sea total war policy ... we're still pissing on our shoe.

So who's right? The Dems treasonous debate of the non-binding "more pissing on our shoe is useless" resolution, or the Reps that want a surge - the same de facto time-line they earlier had argued against because "They know their tactics are working and it is only a matter of time before we pull out".

What statement = That statement

DD,

I do realize that he, and other totally deluded folks like neocon and dan are absolutely sure in their asinine convictions. It frankly scares the crap out of me that there can be such stupid people running around without restraint. If they can be deluded about something so clear and simple, imagine what happens when they do something like, say drive a car????

"imagine what happens when they do something like, say drive a car????"

Mike,

If the truth be known, driving is somewhat problematic for them. They are only capable of making right turns. It does get them into some interesting positions though.

If they were only capable of making right turns, where did Nascar come from?

np,

Those boys use the "other right"!

Good one! I'm still laughing....

Mikeg:

"I do realize that he, and other totally deluded folks like neocon and dan are absolutely sure in their asinine convictions. It frankly scares the crap out of me that there can be such stupid people running around without restraint. If they can be deluded about something so clear and simple, imagine what happens when they do something like, say drive a car????"

Who knows what rock you crawled out from under bubba.

First: read the N&R rules, attack ideas not people. I notice you weren't capbable of proposing an idea, so you resort to personal attacks. It's quite easy to slam people sans offering any original idea of your own. My four year old could do the same although she would be more eloquent, try something along the level of an adult please.

Second: who the hell are you calling people you don't know stupid? Just because you don't agree with someone's opinion does that make them stupid? I guess a stupid guy like me managed to graduate from UNC-CH with honors and start a very successful business. Try looking in the mirror after posting such a petty juvenile rant.

As for driving a car, done it for 33 years with one minor accident. I've also been flying airplanes for 20 years and it takes a bit of intelligence to do so. How bout you?

Go sit in time out for awhile. When you grow up please join us again.

Folks,
Take a look at Mostshitti's calling those who oppose Bush's failed policy "treasonous fools". Proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that he would squash dissent at the first opportunity. He claims he loves America, but he obviously hates Americans. His line of thinking is definitely NOT indicative of a man who thinks, but rather it is indicative of one who postures for partisan gain.
God help the United States of America!

Bad news here for the democrats:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,,-6444829,00.html

Bad news here for the democrats:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,,-6444829,00.html

Dan,

Thanks to the british nanny, I think it's called 'the naughty corner' now.

:)