it applies to all of congress, and many state and local politicians.

We have a choice, Mr. Carter - either re-elect corrupt politicians or let others suck babies down the sinks.

meaning ... most voters don't vote. Of those that do, the majority is already fixed because of one-topic issue, on which most are uninformed or simply prejudiced

BFEE, blah blah. Been a few days since there was a good Bush bashing letter. 10:1 he serves out his full term, and 10:1 we disarm Iran in the next month. 100:1 the democrats howl like scalded dogs until Jan 20, 2009.

"either re-elect corrupt politicians or let others suck babies down sinks"

Yep, them dumb republicans only vote for corrupt politicians cause of abortion or gay marriage or some other stupid social thing. Democrats, on the other hand, are 100% informed, always taking into account all aspects of the political landscape before pulling that lever.

Nit,
I think JDR hit the nail square on the head. We've suffered too much at the hands of the ones who claim they are "pro life" and ignore every other issue because they cannot separate emotion from reason.

Hugh,
You claim 10:1 that we disarm Iran within the next month? You're on! Today is the 5th day of February and the clock just began to tick. I'm not saying it won't happen, I'm just not anywhere close to the certainty you have about its foreboding.

DD & Hugh,

I'll take some of that 10:1 on Iran. You must know something I don't know (not that hard really).

10:1 for DISARMING Iran? In the next month?

I want in on this!

At the risk of pissing young Hugh off .. and from another thread:

Yea, he is the future - his voice should be heard - but he is young, idealistic, just out of college and a bit clueless - so let him suggest, inform, invent, and create - and take him up on those 10:1 odds for disarming Iran in 30 days - heck I'll go 100:1 on doing anything except 30 days of talk about Iran.

I hear him now:

Saw your first ship sink and drown from rocking of the boat
And all that could not sink of swim were just left there to float
I won't leave you drifting down but whoa it makes me wild
With thirty years upon my head to have you call me child

nitpicker, most of the Republicans I know who supported and still support Bush are in fact fanatical "Christians" with an agenda a mile wide. Who do you think the few who still approve of the moron are? Many are led by ignorant ministers; many are led by predjudices; not one is a truly thinking person.

I am unafiliated. I am not a Democrat or a Republican. I am an intelligent, well educated, thinking person. I can tell you all that is wrong with our war and our leaders. I can back up my beliefs with facts. Can any of the Bush supporters do this? No they cannot.

NanP, you speak my mind!

Shalom

"People should learn about Bush's corruption"

HOWARD, WE ARE LIVING IN IT! ONLY THE FANATICS ON THE FRINGE DENY THE INCOMPETENCE AND CORRUPTION!! 21% ARE WAIST DEEP IN BUSH-IT, AND CAN'T DIG THEIR WAY OUT!!

"I urge all to try to find out the truth and to start using our own brains to determine just what the situation has become."

HOWARD, HOW CAN THEY WHEN THEY GET ALL OF THEIR NEWS FROM THE GOP PROPAGANDA ARM, KNOWN THE WORLD OVER AS "FoxNewsChannel"!!

NanP,

Terms like 'fanatical' just seems a way to demonize those you disagree with. There are those who hold strong beliefs on issues on both sides of the aisle. There are many Christians who vote democrat as well as republican. Their reasons are as varied as the individual.

You may not consider yourself Republican or Democrat. I don't either. I consider myself an individual who considers each candidate's merit and a variety of issues before voting. I wouldn't go as far as calling myself 'unaffiliated'. As soon as I pull that lever, I'm affiliated with someone. It's a big responsibility. Most people who actually take the time to vote don't take it lightly.

Nit,
FANATICAL CHRISTIANS: Ted Haggard, Jerry Falwell, Fred Phelps, Pat Robertson, and those who are driven into the voting booth by the likes of the above, on emotional wedge issues of Gay marriage, Guns, and God (prayer etc).

Now Nit, where do the Democrats fit into the above? NOWHERE! Hence the term, "Fanatical Christian". I passed College Park Baptist yesterday and they have a huge banner out front proclaiming they are an "AMERICAN" Baptist---so I guess they don't want to be remotely aligned with the SBC or the "fanatical Christians".

DD, I would dare say that due to the vote of NC Baptists in November that College Park either withdrew or was disfellowshiped from the SBC. Just my take on the issue.

I used the terms "religious" and "faithful/deeply faithful" in another blog earlier today. Basically having the same meaning as "fanatical" yet termed more moderately. Religions and religious people are a detriment to ANY Faith!

Shalom