Wow
This might be the most amazing true story I've ever read.
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This might be the most amazing true story I've ever read.
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It starts out as a great story then falls flat on his face as he equates christians and moralists as NAZIs.
I can see his point to some extent; but, this is modern day and hopefully we remember the lessons of the past.
His statements are more inflamatory that insightful. It's time to stop painting with broad strokes and come out and pin-point the instances that create such emotion.
Posted on March 8, 2005 9:55 AM
Don, the political commentary is a huge distraction (and an unfortunate one; I've criticized the excessive use of the Nazi metaphor more than once on my personal blog), but that's all. It ain't the point of the story.
Posted on March 8, 2005 10:04 AM
So if I'm a Christian and I believe in a moral life then I'm a Nazi?
Great story, I can see why you liked it so much, Lex.
Posted on March 8, 2005 11:05 AM
Ricky, you and I both know that's not what the story says.
Posted on March 8, 2005 1:30 PM
Equating moral, Christian people to Nazis is EXACTLY what the writer is doing. How could it be more clear?
Lex, in case you didn't read the story, let me quote the relevant part:
"Now when I see the hate and bigotry that comes out of those that call them "Christians" or "Moral People", I know that this is how it began seven decades ago in Europe. It was too late, when people finally woke up, millions had been carted away in cattle cars to their deaths.
I don't want to see that here or anywhere else. I do not want there to be cattle cars filled with people that these hate mongers scream out against. I do not want to see gays, liberals, Mexicans, hippies, Hollywood Actors, or anyone else have to be tattooed with a number..."
Posted on March 8, 2005 6:22 PM
It's not a blanket condemnation of Christians, only of a certain type of person who calls him/herself Christian. Again, you know that.
And it's worth remembering that when the Nazis got started in the 1930s, the Lutheran and Roman Catholic churches, with some honorable exceptions, stood by silently and let it happen.
Posted on March 9, 2005 6:16 AM
Lex, I strongly recommend a book by Daniel Goldhagen called "Hitler's Willing Executioners." He outlines the deep-rooted, pervasive anti-Semitism in Germany that led to the complicity of the German people in the Nazi holocaust. It's chilling, but you may be able to see that there's very little comparison (I'd say none) between conditions that existed in 1930s-and-earlier Germany and anything happening in the United States today.
Posted on March 9, 2005 1:35 PM
Doug, I've read "HWE." Twice. I do not necessarily believe that a Holocaust could happen here, but there ARE some quite obvious comparisons between Weimar/early Nazi Germany and things happening in the U.S. On the same scale? No. Of the same kind? Absolutely.
Which is all absolutely beside the original point of this post.
Posted on March 9, 2005 5:46 PM
"... way out there."
Now you're talkin', Lex. Perfect description of your views!
Posted on March 13, 2005 10:13 AM
That's right, Hube -- when facts won't work for you, try ad-hominem argument.
Posted on March 14, 2005 11:43 AM