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Never happen Doug, as long as the eco-nutzoids and enviro-terror groups have free reign to delay, stop and harrass those who would free us from foreign oil. Makes one wonder just who's side are these folks on anyhow.

hey MR Produce...instead of being a mouthpiece for the RNC and big oil, why don't you advocate the search for ALTERNATIVE energy resources??? the earth is going to run out of oil and natural gas. instead of hastening that, why don't we look to something new? Don't keep doing the same thing and expect different results

Natural gas IS a pretty good alternative energy resource. If it's available and can be extracted safely and economically, I say do it.

Otherwise, it may be many cold winters before everyone will be able to heat their homes with solar or wind power.

mike g you must be a troll. I have and do advocate for alternative energy regurally on these post. I also know that these groups have stopped re-opening of wells in the panhandle of Texas because of some dang weed growing there that some enviro-nut considers endangered. My good friend was/is a victim of this type of group.
Now, my suggestion before you make an ass of yourself again is to go back and read some of the post in archives that I have made concerning energy.
I , by the way, use passive solar to help heat my home. How about you? Still sucking up oil, electicity or is it gas?

Mikeq,

The Republican President (Just as Carter, remember his "Moral Equivalency of War" and energy independence for America by 1990, & Clinton, but never did anything) did mention something about using alternative energy in his recent address. Now it will be interesting to see if market forces (you, me, Doug, Mr. P, and a host of others) take over and drive the technology to offer alternatives to fossil fuels.

Go Easy on Big Oil which has been good to us. Sort of like electricity, always been there for us when we need it at a reasonably fair price.

Now if I were in charge, I'd make it mandatory that everyone in the US plow up their yard and plant corn in order to produce ethanol as an alternative to fossil fuels. But that's just me.

Jon, over the last several decades, or "leadership" be it republican or democrat, has advocated on the surface reduceing our dependence on fossil fuels to free us from the end game of oil. We will run out of oil. Soon!! howe soon? well, it's hard to predict, but having seen the growth of China first hand, I would say that we will run out of affordable oil much faster than anyone predicts. To advocate more oil exploration as the moronic Mr P does, at the expense of the environment, is not only irresponsible, but also extremely short sited. (FYI, Mr. P, I do use solar to heat water. I also implemented "green" technology at both my home and workplace and have cut my energy usage 46% over the last 3 years)
I find it interesting that the average american embraces technology like hybrid cars only when the pain of the pump gets excruciating. Big Oil has been good to us, but is not ever going to offer an alternative to Oil, as it's not in it's interest.
Short term solutions like drilling in the arctic refuge ( which I'm sure that Mr. P advocates) are short term solutions with huge environmental costs that are unacceptable.

We need to focus our energies on developing alternative sources that are renewable, and we need to do it now. Tomorrow will be too late.

What the heck is moronic about RE-OPENING wells(evidence you read only what you wish to read) that were closed because of some dang weed that no one gives a rats butt about except some whining whacko eviro-nut group. The dang things have been growing on my friends and his neighbors land for years and years. Cows and horses ate the weeds for years and no one cared. Nothing was said until they attempted to RE-OPEN
some capped off wells which they were forced to do by oil companies and the government years ago. Suddenly the enviro-nutzoids rose up and started screaming to high heavens. There is oil there as well as natural gas in many of the capped off fields being unused because of thinking as you have expressed and now that is moronic.
I see you still have not bothered to read my several post on alternative energy use, posted in the past month and still insist on making an ass of yourself. Best thing for you Mikeg is to do as my granddaddy said. "Know of what you speak and speak of what you know, otherwise be quiet, you might learn something." I would add, learn to read what is printed and not just what you wish to see.

Seeing as how you are so "green" aware I am sure that many would appreciate knowing how you cut your use of energy by 46% over a 3 yr. period. Perhaps you bagged some of the BS you spout and dried it and are burning it for fuel.

According to Mi Keg, it would appear those who think like you and I are all just Bush toadies on this, as well as other issues, Mr. P.

It's another good example of letting politics rule the discussion, instead of common sense on issues like this.

Mr P. it's obvious that the only weeds growing are the ones inside your head..since you can't do much except bash others, which you seem to do with regularity, ( I Have read your posts) you clearly demonstrate what a moron you are. Perhaps, if you bothered to find out what the real reason the wells were capped, instead of relying on your buddies for your total source of info, you would not hasten to blame it on enviro-nutzoinds. I think you relish the chance to bash anyone woh does not share your narrow view of the world. Oh, I know, you don;'t want to be confused with the facts!!!

It would appear that Mikeg has not read any of the post as claimed.Perhaps he read some that were also directed to those who are of his ilk, in other words ignorant. It also seems that he, like those who are among the knownothings ,and have no real case will only try , I repeat try, to put those who have knowledge into the background. It is they who have no zeal for knowledge or truth. They only read and repeat what they want to read and are fed at the trough of the farleft.

Oh, Mike, these aren't just buddies, as you once again ASSume and once again make and ASS of yourself, this is family AND friends. You see, we know of what we speak, how about you. Ever live in the panhandle, ever work any oil fields, ever do anything except sit on your butt and critize those who know more than you about a subject?. Pathetic Mikeg , you continue to prove yourself pathetic. Why don't you try to obtain some knowledge before spouting off about something that is evident to all that you know nothing about. Perhaps the braying will ceases when you return to the pasture from which you came. Until then go on back to your feed bag at the farleft websites and beleive what you will.

Mikeq,

I do agree with Mr. P that there are other opportunities for oil even in our hemisphere that aren't presently being tapped as a result of political pressure. Oil & Gas is plentiful off the California coast but well Californians are well.....just being Californians. Congress had a good opportunity to open up parts of Alaska and that was voted down. Estimates are it would have provided enough oil to keep the State of Massachusetts motoring for 75 years. It was defeated. The two Senatorial K's of Mass helped to poo poo that idea.

However, you're correct, we need to develop other sources and lo and behold we need just to look to Brazil to lead us to the promise land. Sugar is the answer. Lots of sugar to make ethanol. 16.5 million Brazilian drivers fillup there tanks on the average of 40% of the time with ethanol produced from sugar cane. They have the technology and are able to produce it in large quantities and cost effectively. In fact, the Brazilians have become completely energy independent. No foreign oil required there.

Now we just need to take the Brazilian model and replicate it in our country.

Jon.Have you been seeing the new commercials for
"go yellow"? It's a commercial to delight your heart as well as mine. Heck, using corn for making fuel is nothing new to me. Some folks used it for a dual purpose, drinking and running the car. I can remember running out of gas one night and my Uncle had a gallon of "corn" in his trunk. He poured it in the tank and off we went. Everytime the dang thing backfired it blew a blue flame out the tail pipe that looked like the afterburner on a jet. Sure made one run clean and never fouled the plugs. Had to be careful though because on some of the engines it burned so hot and you could turn the cylinder walls into dust. We also mixed it with regular gas to run in our dirt track "hotrod" until we got caught. They said we couldn't run alcohol in our cars but we could drink it. Dang! Anyhow, the day is coming for ethanol fuels. My vehicle already runs a mixture so I am ready for the complete change over at some point. My new re-built generator runs on bio-diesel, only problem is that sometimes it smells like French fries. I buy it at a place in Asheville that recycles all the French fry oil from the restaurants and fast food joints and turns it to bio-diesel. No, I am not cutting my trees to plant corn. Hills are too steep. Only way to plant it on my hills would be with a shotgun then I would have a problem harvesting it. You see, only popcorn is grown that way here in the hills. You plant it with a shotgun, then set the field on fire when the corn is dried and gather up the popcorn after the fire has done it's job.

I've read that 40% of U.S. oil consumption goes to power our autos. My hybrid Toyota gets 50 mpg, with dramatically lower pollutants. I don't know if hybrid technology is possible for widespread use in the auto industry, but it sure has worked out well for me. And cleaner air to boot! Seems like an easy solution.

Mr. P,

Sounds to me like if the revenooers had left the moonshine industry alone ages ago, I've a feeling we would already have this alternative energy thing resolved.

You are probably correct Jon. At 180 proof, and that's watered down a bit from just out of the drip, it sure was pretty good fuel, for car and the body. hahaha.