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A vote is worth a million

The "Voter Reward Act" is on Arizona's ballot this November.

It's a voter lottery, and it's a sad sign of the times.

"The people of Arizona declare our intent to create a reward system that will improve the public participation in Arizona state government by encouraging citizen participation in the political process, and particularly voting at elections," the initiative says.

How? By entering voters in a lottery for cash prizes -- as much as $1 million "or more, adjusted for inflation."

Good grief! Forget about encouraging voter participation for the sake of democracy, for the sake of good government or for the sake of civic responsibility.

Do it for the chance to get rich.

Is that what our Founding Fathers pledged their lives, fortunes and sacred honor for?

Is that what the suffragettes crusaded for?

Is that what civil rights marchers risked life and limb for?

For the right to win a payoff if they bothered to vote?

If you have to be enticed with the chance of winning a million in order to vote, you probably have no idea what you're voting for. But, so what? Let's go with it.

In fact, the same idea could be applied to other areas of civic involvement.

Can there be similar incentives for people who show up for jury duty, attend city council meetings, make their child-support payments and go all year without committing a major felony? We really can build better citizenship if we'll just pay for responsible behavior.

Arizona voters have to approve this measure for it to take effect. That means there's a hitch: There's no lottery yet to lure them to the polls.

Just as well. This idea is a loser.

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Arizona voters have to approve this measure for it to take effect. That means there's a hitch: There's no lottery yet to lure them to the polls.

Just as well. This idea is a loser.* Doug

Don't worry Doug! On this on we agree about your position on the lottery. However, those pols in Az are on to a much better plan to bring voters to the pols. They are offering free season tickets to the AZ Cardinals of the NFL to pay off the taxpayers debt on the Cardinals new Stadium.

You got to admit our pols in NC are genius's compare to the AZ pols

Skeet Club Savage said:

The people we elect want to get paid, (ask Deena)so it's only right that the voters have a chance for a payday as well.

Joe Guarino said:

Doug, I wonder about the type of voter that would respond to this type of incentive. Do we really want to bend over backwards to this degree to bring out the otherwise unmotivated voter who may not be doing his or her homework to understand the issues in the election?

Doug said:

The way I read the initiative, a participant wouldn't actually have to vote at all:

"To qualify to receive a reward, a voter must be an eligible voter who consents to participate in an eligible election. The appearance of the voter's name upon a precinct roll used at an eligible election together with his/her signature thereon shall prima facie be proof of the voter's eligible status."

So, if you're registered to vote, you just show up on election day, sign your name and receive a ballot. You can submit a blank ballot and still have your name entered for the million-dollar lottery.

Come to think of it, Joe, you're right. It would be better if people only interested in the money didn't really vote.

Skeet Club Savage said:

Or didn't really run for office.

Greenback said:

Yeah, I can see why this proposed policy would tick some off. It doesn't even mention the words 'black' or 'white'.

Skeet Club Savage said:

Hey Doug, any comment on one of the Duke Three (Colin Finnerty ?spelling) getting busted last week in Georgetown for beating up some guy?

Doug said:

Finnerty was convicted last week for an assault that occurred last year. It sounds to me like his conviction was well deserved. I think that should place his status on the Duke lacrosse team in question, regardless of the outcome of the unrelated rape case.

Stormy said:

While you are discussing ovting issues, how about the judge in Georgia that ruled the law passed by the legislature as unconstitutional that required a picture i.d. to vote? The state was going to provide a mobile location for residents to get their i.d. so they wouldn't have to go out of their way to get it. Even Jimmy Carter supported it.

Now, you have it set-up for illegals to vote and there is no plan to determine whether they are legal voters. That's a set-up for politicans to misuse the system. If you have been to Georgia lately, you will understand the scope of the problem with illegals.

Now, you have it set-up for illegals to vote and there is no plan to determine whether they are legal voters. That's a set-up for politicans to misuse the system. If you have been to Georgia lately, you will understand the scope of the problem with illegals.* Stormy

It appears that you have not been to East St Louis on any given election day. It makes Georgia look like a legal voter paradise.

Doug said:

Stormy,

A judge could go to an absurd extreme to rule that certain requirements are discriminatory. Isn't the ballot itself discriminatory against someone who can't read? I thought Georgia had made sufficient provisions to ensure that no one would be unduly burdened by the requirement to show ID before voting.

Stormy said:

Doug,

I believe that the Voters Rights Act provides relief for dis=advantaged people. I know that in some states, ballots are printed in different languages as an accomodation, although part of becoming a citizen requires that you demonstrate a proficiency in English. If so, why do we need ballots in different languages?

No, it is my understanding that the judge struck down two attempts by the legislature to require picture i.d.'s to vote on the basis it is discriminatory. I suppose a judge can rule anything is discriminatory that he or she chooses.

No, I haven't been to East St. Louis lately, so I don't understand the problems there. But, I do know that there are thousands of illegals puring into Georgia. The Atlanta area is changing its character immensely every day. It was reported that 60% of the students in Dalton Schools are now hispanic. It is not known exactly how many of those people are children of illegals.

In short, the face of politics is going to change immensely in this country unless we get the illegal immigration problem solved. And, letting non-citizens vote will make that change happen even faster.

No, I haven't been to East St. Louis lately, so I don't understand the problems there* Stormy

Than you should look into the past voter history of East St Louis for the last 20 years. Make that 35 years!

In short, the face of politics is going to change immensely in this country unless we get the illegal immigration problem solved. And, letting non-citizens vote will make that change happen even faster.* Stormy

The face of politics in this country needs to change fast because of your Repub buddies gutting the Constitution in the past 6 years. You won't have a liberty seeking country for individualism in the future at the present rate your friends are going. If you think living in a high tech pro-fascist police state is the future over my lawn service company, than knock yourself out at the local dentention camp pondering how you and your friends got there?

Stormy said:

Connie,

You're supposed to cut the grass, not smoke it.

The Dems invented the term "voting irregularities". It was perfected in Cook County, Illinois and Lousiana.

You're supposed to cut the grass, not smoke it.* Stormy

Recent studies show that grass is nothing but a dream up repub plot to free Dr Tim Leary from Gordon D. Liddy in the WaterGate space adventure of Aliens going to south central LA.

The Dems invented the term "voting irregularities". It was perfected in Cook County, Illinois and Lousiana.* Stormy

Right! And the Republicans invented the 2000 Fla Election results. Not counting those 4000 missing irregularities in 2004 in Cartert County. And please don't even bring up the Diebo Corporation amazing new math voter computer in Ohio.

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