Apocalypto
I just saw Mel Gibson's gripping, amazing "Apocalypto."
It's masterfully made, fast-paced, breathtaking -- a thought-provoking action movie.
I'll let others determine the historical accuracy of this film set in the proximity of the Mayan empire circa 1500. Sorry if that date gives away the ending. The movie only hints at one of mankind's turning-of-the-tide moments, anyway. In a larger sense, Gibson, the anti-PC moviemaker, tells us that the coming of Europeans to the New World was just another wave on the beach of history. Think it was the white man who introduced brutality and conquest to an unspoiled wilderness? Think again, says Gibson.
At the same time, Gibson warns about the fate of civilizations that rot from the inside yet consider themselves invulnerable Those that feed on the misery of weaker neighbors deserve the fate that befalls them.
On other levels, this is a personal story about love, courage, friendship, devotion to family and traditions. The actors, speaking Mayan, seem very authentic.
The movie's details are amazing -- the Indians' tattoos, piercings, stretched earlobes, costumes; the weapons; the jungle settings; the Mayan temple, all painstakingly created.
There's violence, some frightening -- if human sacrifice bothers you, don't go. There's grief and anguish. Also tenderness. Altogether, it's a one-of-a-kind motion picture. I may not see it over and over, as I have Gibson's "Braveheart," but it was well worth seeing today.
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I may not see it over and over, as I have Gibson's "Braveheart," but it was well worth seeing today.*Doug
Forget Braveheart! That was early Mel. You should be running the " The Patriot" over and over to understand how screw up the future of this country is.
The actors, speaking Mayan, seem very authentic.* Doug
The low cost actors were real authentic locals. In fact the only real actors from the states were a couple of bit part non-union idiots trying to suck up to Mel again. I hate sucking up over the hill dead beat want to be loser actors. Of course, some of those fools will do anything to make a buck like sitting on a ant hill in the middle of the Bush thinking it was a Mayan religious sitting chair.
Gibson warns about the fate of civilizations that rot from the inside yet consider themselves invulnerable * Doug
Right! Sorted like the present state of this nation.
Posted on December 10, 2006 9:53 AM
Did they make up the actors to have the torpedo-shaped heads the Mayans preferred? Knob on the back, giving an illusion almost of a conehead, and straight nose descending from the brow.
Posted on December 10, 2006 11:50 PM
Apparently it's not that authentic. How long would it take to shape an actor's head like that?
Posted on December 11, 2006 8:38 AM
The thing that got me about this movie was the protagonist's wife sets a new standard for womenhood. Talk about a do-it-all woman, WOW!!!
I agree with Doug. Excellent movie. I must admit I don't get the attention that the political /symbolic significance of the movie has received. I mean it was your basic Mel Gibson Land and Family action movie like Braveheart, Patriot, Road Warrior etc. But almost all good action movies are ultimately about land and family whether it's High Noon, Swiss Family Robinson etc. and on and on.
Speaking of land and family and it's attendant struggles, talked to a Davidson Co. politician who stated that Kearns and Grier are just killing them with the egress of people out of Guilford co. and the stress on their infra-structure and schools, schools being the number one reason cited for people moving there. He pointed out that the realty company that Dot Kearns works for has extensive dealings in Davidson Co. So in essense people move out of Guilford Co. because of educational mis-management and guess who's waiting on the other end to collect their fee? Talking about getting you going and coming. Scandalous!!!!
Posted on December 11, 2006 8:49 AM
SCS,
So it's your contention that Kearns, in collusion with Dr. Grier, as a result of having vast real estate holdings in Davidson County, conspired to redo the institution of education in Guilford County in order to enrich themselves when the conspired upon moved to Davidson County.
One thing I can say for you SCS, you have an amazing imagination.
Re: Apocalypto. I won't spend my money to watch a film produced by an anti-semite.
Posted on December 11, 2006 9:40 AM
Jon, all I did is state the facts. As to Dot's reasons for doing what she does, like thousands of others, including her friends, family etc, I don't have a clue. I just stare in wonder at the aftermath.
Posted on December 11, 2006 9:49 AM
Apparently it's not that authentic. How long would it take to shape an actor's head like that?*Doug
About 6 hours starting at 3 AM with 25 make up folks in 12 trailers. It appears that you have never been on a movie or TV set to see this amazing change with human beings. Heck Doug! I could have you looking like bit part ocu's warrior ready for combat with the bit part monsters from the new Star trek TV series. On the 2 nd thought! Forget that! I just look at your header picture on this blog.
Oh one other thing Doug! You ask about the cone head shape with the actors. It's a little painful at first, but when the make up folks remove the vice and give you a couple of Bayer pills, things start to appear to be normal before the Cams. "Lights, Action, and take two conehead Mayans"
Posted on December 11, 2006 9:58 AM
Re: Apocalypto. I won't spend my money to watch a film produced by an anti-semite.* Jon
It appears that over 4 million anti-semites over the weekend paid to see a reform drunk anti-semite flick after all?
Would you pay to see Producer Al Gore recent flick about the myth of Global Warming since he was a former Pro-Life supporter in another political life?
Posted on December 11, 2006 10:08 AM
I hate to get drawn into an unrelated discussion, but white flight from High Point into Davidson County started long before Terry Grier and the school choice plan. The IB program put in place at HP Central by Superintendent Jerry Weast was one effort to reverse that trend. Davidson County has been an attractive residential location for many years and for many reasons. Terry Grier didn't create Westchester Academy and the Willow Creek community.
Posted on December 11, 2006 11:03 AM
You're right, Doug, if you're talking about Emerywood people. So Dot decided she'd spread the joy to nHP, she's just being a good busineess woman and what's wrong with that, huh?
I do disagree though Doug about it being an "UNRELATED" discussion. One group of people stripping rights away from another group of people is EXACTLY what Apocalypto is about.
Posted on December 11, 2006 11:23 AM
To recap: If you had Monday morning at 8:49 A.M. in the "When will someone turn this completely unrelated thread into a screed about High Point school redistricting?" in the pool, you win!
Today's prize is a slightly faded "Get Grier Outta Here" bumper sticker, a seat cushion for those long school bus rides and your own white sheet (cut your own eye holes, as sizes may vary).
But don't worry: if you don't win today, there undoubtedly will be plenty more unrelated threads that get hijacked in the days and weeks to come.
Posted on December 11, 2006 1:11 PM
Just, seems like you had a bad weekend. Sorry.
If wanting your kid at a quality school close to your home without being subject to removal by the government qualifies one for KKK membership, then the KKK would be the biggest politicaL organization in the country and would be composed of members of all ethnic groups. This doesn't seem to be the case.
Oh well, it's Monday.
Posted on December 11, 2006 2:28 PM
Doug, after sleeping a night on your post from yesterday about Emerywood "white flight" to Davidson Co. and how Weast back in the day tried to counter it with the I.B. program etc. it makes it kind of apparent that you knew exactly what Kearns and Mendenhall were doing with the "Choice" Plan.
See the trouble most of us had in nHP was that by the time we figured out what Dot and Sue were really doing, it was way too late, it was slammed through, we knew it smelled bad, but our kids' names were already attached to lottery forms.
You knew that the CP was an attempt to salvage demographics at Central High by going and conscripting captive people from somewhere else as fodder for Dot and Sue's "Ghost Dance" to try to restore the glory of the lost white Bison Nation.
But you knew.
You knew. And watched.
Did it ever bother you? Come on, it had to.
Posted on December 12, 2006 8:46 AM
And this has to do with "Apocalypto" how, exactly? Is Mel Gibson running for school board?
Now, Michael Richards -- there's a candidate you guys could get behind....
Posted on December 12, 2006 8:49 AM
Just, I gave you the benefit of the doubt. I thought it was just a Monday morning thing. It also seems like you probably didn't see the movie which has to do with tribalism and one tribe enslaving and negating another. Please go back and read my reply above.
Thanks.
Posted on December 12, 2006 9:44 AM
You watched, Doug.
You watched while Sue and Dot claimed with a straight face it was for the benefit of the black community.
You watched while they jacked innocent people around.
You're watching now as a nHP neighborhood six tenths of a mile from SW High has been exiled for nothing more than standing up for their own rights.
You knew it was a lie and so did everybody else.
You said...nothing.
You are saying nothing.
Thanks
Posted on December 12, 2006 10:32 AM
Savage, I do not and will not ever agree with your interpretation of these events. Period.
Posted on December 12, 2006 10:45 AM
No, I didn't see the movie. I'm pretty sure it had nothing to do with High Point redistricting, though.
Next, you'll be telling me "Borat" was really based on Terry Grier.
Posted on December 12, 2006 11:15 AM
I realize you can't, Doug.
I realize Dot may not even have been conscious enough or thought enough about or understood enough about how others would view what she was doing when she was doing it. The self-preservatory instinct can be like that.
We all have to maintain our own respective domiciles of cards.
Posted on December 12, 2006 11:40 AM
I wonder if there's a reason Mel Gibson likes "pagan"/"heathen" violence as much as he does. And what all this suffering portends in his psyche? Is it just entertaining rhythms of visual and sound spectacle, as Tarantino claims when he likens gunfire and bloodbaths to Astaire's tap dancing?
Posted on December 15, 2006 2:45 PM
I was wondering about Gibson's choice to film in Mexico and to use all no-name actors. To me it reeked of "low cost foreign labor". I'm curious if these individuals received SAG union wages. If not, did they receive U.S. minimum wage or Mexico's minimum wage? (which could very well just be a cheese sandwich). I have no problem with actors from other countries, I just want to make sure that Mel "DUI" Gibson makes sure to pay appropriate wages to the people who are making it possible for him to live like a king.
Posted on January 5, 2007 6:06 PM
I'm thinking he filmed in Mexico because the events took place in Mexico.
Good grief. If he paid prevailing wages for extras and crew members, I'd guess that was better than no wages for no work.
People who criticize low wages paid by Western companies for work done in Third World countries undoubtedly mean well. But those wages may be a godsend to the people there.
Frankly, it would make no sense, economically or socially, to pay Hollywood wages in the jungles of the Yucatan. As it was, the costs of shooting on location in a rain forest-type environment must have been staggering. Gibson might have saved money if he'd shot on a Hollywood lot.
Posted on January 8, 2007 4:02 PM
I was wondering about Gibson's choice to film in Mexico and to use all no-name actors. To me it reeked of "low cost foreign labor".
I think the purpose of it was not because of some kind of low-budget thing, but more for accuracy. To get indigenous actors would give the movie a much more accurate film than to find credited actors and make them look the same way. Soame with the location. I mean, would you film a movie about Native Americans in New York City?
The movie just came out today, so my sister's buying it from me for my birthday. Other wise I'd go to imoovie.com and getting it there.
Posted on May 22, 2007 2:11 PM