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Draft Gore? It might not be so hard

The Draft Gore movement gets a huge boost today with its champion winning the Nobel Peace Prize.

I'm not sure why Gore deserves a peace prize, but I can't think of any other candidates off the top of my head.

I like the Draft Gore movement, however. It would be fun to see a battle royale between Gore and the Clintons.

Little did Gore know when he served as Bill Clinton's veep for eight years that Bill intended for HIllary to be his successor in the White House, not Al.

Still, there's quite an anti-Hllary faction in the Democratic Party. Trouble is, it can't count on Barack Obama or John Edwards to stop her run to the nomination. Gore's the best hope.

Realists say Gore couldn't catch Hillary. He doesn't have money or a campaign organization.

I think he could. How? By making a deal with Obama. If Obama withdraws from the race and throws his support (and money/organization) to Gore, he'll get the running mate slot.

Why would Obama do that? Because he isn't going to beat Hillary for the nomination, and she isn't going to offer him the No. 2 spot. Obama needs more experience, and eight years as Gore's vice president will set him up perfectly to run in 2016.

Edwards could angle for a similar deal, maybe to get a post like attorney general. But Gore really wouldn't need to make a deal with Edwards, whose supporters have to go somewhere -- and it won't be to Hillary's side. Edwards is a non-factor. With Obama's support, though, Gore could overtake Hillary. It's not too late. After all, there hasn't been a single convention delegate won yet.

Will Gore go for it? That's what I don't know. Right now, he's worshipped like a god by liberals and global warming cultists. Now he's a Nobel laureate. He's risen way above politics. But if he still feels cheated from 2000 and thinks he could pull it off, he might let himself be drafted.

I know this: He could beat Hillary, and probably any Republican, too.

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Tipper said:

I don't want to seem forward Mr. Clark, but you kind of forgot, and I know it's kind of easy to take it for granted, but Al also invented the Internet.

Enjoy, your column. You have many fans over here in Good Ol' Rocky Top.

Bubba said:

"I know this: He could beat Hillary, and probably any Republican, too."

I doubt that he could do either, based on his absurd and incorrect propaganda for "scientific consensus" on "anthropogenic global warming".

The very caricature that Gore has become on this issue would prove his downfall.

I think he's well aware of this. Hence the (wise) reluctance to run.

Doug said:

I think his catastrophic predictions, fortunately, will prove to be exaggerated. They exceed the forecasts of many other experts. On hurricanes and sea-level rise, to cite two examples. But I think the general perception, rightly or wrongly, is that he's credible.

Again, I think he beats Hillary ONLY if Obama quits the race and throws all his support to Gore.

The Republican field doesn't seem likely to produce an invincible nominee, in my view.

Roch101 said:

"The very caricature that Gore has become on this issue would prove his downfall." -- Bubba

And if anybody knows something about charicatures, it's Bubba.

I don't know if you're right, Doug, about Gore being "worshipped" like a god by global warming "cultists." I'm not even sure who those are, other than perhaps a hyperbolic description of people who see an issue differently than you.

I don't think Gore would have to make any kind of "deal." He'd garner support from current Obama, Clinton and Edwards supporters alike. Were he to jump into the race (he'd have to do it, there's no official way for a candidate to be "drafted), I think the polls would immeadiately break down to something like this:

Clinton: 34%
Gore: 34%
Obama: 10%
Edwards: 7%
Unsure: 10%

Bubba said:

"And if anybody knows something about charicatures, it's Bubba.'

Indeed I do.

I see them and call them as such everytime they appear in our local blogosphere.

Thanks for noticing.

Doug said:

But 34-34 is no good. Gore needs to enter with a bigger splash than that, which is why he needs Obama.

I like to hyperbolize on Fridays.

Bubba said:

"And if anybody knows something about charicatures, it's Bubba.'

Indeed I do.

I see them and respond to them every time they appear in our local blogosphere.

Thanks for noticing.

jaycee said:

Roch101, if you don't know what a global warming "cultist" is then you haven't been paying attention. Heck, Gore just won the Nobel Prize For Fiction based on his popularity with these cultists.

I know this: He could beat Hillary, and probably any Republican, too.* Doug

Doug! If you knew this to be true! Than you would be running the biggest Religious movement on the planet with that prediction.

Draft Big Al for Iraq and send Bubba as his right hand man to Baghdad!

Doug said:

Connie, Gore will declare that the Iraq war is causing global warming. All those explosions and gunshots are heating up the atmosphere.

That's why it's so hot over there.

Connie, Gore will declare that the Iraq war is causing global warming. All those explosions and gunshots are heating up the atmosphere.

That's why it's so hot over there.* Doug

Big Al has no idea what a war is! His war duty was that of a reporter for the Stars and Stripes paper in Nam fix by his Senator Dad for 6 months in a air condition office. I find that it is amazing that the establishment media is dodging the biggest story this year is the Ron Paul movement which is sweeping millions of folks into a real political revolution for change. Speaking of predictions read below....


Another Sad Story from Iraq today!

Today my son called me from Iraq. His unit is to come home at the end of the month after a 15 month tour. He is with a airboure strike unit that goes out at night to smoke out the bad guys with intense force. He is station about 40 miles south of Baghdad at the only power plant for Baghdad. Today one trooper was killed in a truck accident on the base with many other troopers wounded or hurt in the accident when it was trying to avoid a Iraqi power crew on the road. When Troopers come and go to Iraq, they fly into Baghdad airport and than transfer by chopper to Camp Victory which is downtown in Baghdad just south of the Green Zone and wait until transfer orders come in to transfer them by choppers to their main assignment base. It might be a couple of days before the choppers transfer them while they wait. Camp Victory is the most rocket and morter attack camp in Iraq. A women or young lady assigned to my son's base, had completed her 15 month tour with her unit and her 4 years with the Army and was on the way home and at Camp Victory waiting for the transfer to Baghdad international airport and than home for good. This AM she was eating Breakfast in the mess hall and than to board the Chopper after the meal. A rocket hit the mess hall and she was killed on the spot along with 40 wounded American troopers for the transfer.

When I hear the presidental neo-con republican war mongers[except Ron Paul] preach more war. I just want to hang the bastards on the spot and forget due process. They have no idea how much rage is out there by the American people toward them.

Connie Mack Jr


The Neocons you speak of have already thrown out "Due Process"..
Marshall Adame

The young lady soldier you mentioned, who's life was ended, is another tragic consequence of allowing the unrestrained power of the President to go unchallanged during these past 7 years, and is a tragic remider of this failed and almost criminal Presidency.

Today President Bush remains almost as unchallaged as he has ever been and his sword of self righteousness continues to be weilded on the battlefield. Sadly, some Democrats in Congress have assisted in that continuation of war in Iraq.

If America does not stop conducting its foreign policy through the insanity of war by turning away the Repuplican Party at the Voting polls all over this country, we will continue to relive these consequences.

Regarding those who sacrafice in battle either by experience, loss of limb, or death; we need to all remember that our miltary Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen and Marines are all doing exactly what they took an oath to do, "Obey the orders of those over me" and are as much the victoms of our faild president as any others. They have the right to assume our the missions they are sent to are "right and just". They sacrafice counting on the integrity of their civilian leaders in government.

No sacrafice is for not, no act of bravery, or courage is wasted, nomatter where it occurs , or under what circumstances. The honor of our Military is in tact.

The honor of those resisting this war and standing up for American values remains .

Marshall Adame [ Note* Marshall is a Democrat Congressional Candiate against Republican Congressman Walter Jones in 08]

Thank you Marshall, You are a great American! below is the confirmed story so the neo-cons didn't think I made it up.....

Updated at 11:30 p.m. EDT, Oct. 11, 2007

A mortar attack on the U.S. army headquarters in Baghdad left two Coalition soldiers dead and 40 more wounded. In other violent incidents, 89 Iraqis were killed or found dead, and 119 more were wounded. As the specifics of the Camp Victory attack become known, these figures may rise significantly. In a separate hostile incident, a MNC-I soldier died of wounds received during combat yestarday in Baghdad.

In Baghdad, overnight mortar fire killed two Coalition soldiers of unreported nationality at Camp Victory, near the Baghdad airport in al-Bayaa. Two of the 40 wounded were foreign civilian contractors. The numbers of American and Iraqi casualties have not been released. Camp Victory houses the headquarters for the American forces in Iraq. It is a separate location from the better known Green Zone which houses the American and British embassies. Later, a police officer and six policemen, who are believed involved, were arrested during a raid on an al-Bayaa precinct station.

Milo said:

Camp Victory and the Green Zone are safer than the gang-infested zones of Greensboro and Charlotte. 2+ years in Iraq -- been there & done that.

///thread-jack///

Jon said:

I question if Gore would win if he jumps into the race for the 2008 big prize.

Take into consideration that here's a guy running for the big one in 2000, of the incumbent Pres party, whose following in the steps of one of the most popular Presidents in our recent history, following in the steps of one of the most dynamic economic times our nation has ever experienced, no wars going on and things are good in Mayberry, and he loses to a Texan who can barely put together a complete and coherent sentence.

By all indications, based on the condition of our country at that time and the almost insurmountable power of the incumbency, Gore should have trounced Bush but couldn't bring it home.

Gore didn't even win in his home state of Tennessee in 2000 and to make matters more embarrassing, even the county where he was born in voted in the majority for the Texan.

It's gonna take more than a book to propel this guy into serious contention.

Doug said:

Jon, no question that Gore was lousy in 2000. He didn't deserve to win (and he didn't, anyway). But he seems to have stoked up some fire in the belly since then. It could make a big difference.

Bubba said:

"But he seems to have stoked up some fire in the belly since then."

Not a chance.

He won't even debate anyone face-to-face on his signature global warming issue.

Doug said:

He won't debate because everything is known ... by Al. The science is settled. Anyone who disagrees with any of his pronouncements in the slightest detail is a denier. There's nothing to discuss.

Bubba said:

"There's nothing to discuss."


.....including his ability to actually function as the President of the United States.

Milo said:

Camp Victory and the Green Zone are safer than the gang-infested zones of Greensboro and Charlotte. 2+ years in Iraq -- been there & done that.

///thread-jack///

Really! Than why are you promoting real estate purchases in downtown Charlotte and Greensboro. If you really feel that way, You certainly need to hustle back to Camp Victory as a employee of Haliburton and work the morning mess hall shift. You are not one of the Bush neo-con war mongers who really believes that he went to Iraq in a dream are you?

There's nothing to discuss."


.....including his ability to actually function as the President of the United States.* Bubba

You got that right Bubba! No doubt your republican neo-con leader has prove he can's function as a president after 6 years of Republican corruption, a custer###### WAR with no way out except to invade another country like Iran. Bubba do you understand that your party is like Custer at the Little Big Horn wondering where all of those indians are coming from?

Bubba do you understand that your party is like Custer at the Little Big Horn wondering where all of those indians are coming from?* CM

Bubba! Correction for you, since I forgot you are a little slow on republican history, It should read,,,,"Bubba do you understand that your party is like Custer at the Little Big Horn wondering where all of those Constitutional Ron Paul indians are coming from?"

Stormy said:

Doug,

I think that you have described things pretty well in your original proposition, except for one thing...that he could beat any Republican.

Gore would be Hillary's worst nightmare in the primaries. Hillary has very high negatives in the general election, and there is a quite concern in the Dem party that she could lose in the general election, because of that high negative. The Dems do not want to lose this election, it's too important to them. Hillary also has her enemies within the party, and she isn't totally trusted by the Far Left because of her constant flip flops on issues. Obama nor Edwards are going to lay a glove on Hillary. Which brings Algore into the picture. You laid-out all of this well in your intro. People say why would Gore want to be president? But, he wanted to 8 years ago, and he believes that it was stolen from him. I think that he would sell his sole to reclaim his rightful throne, er, office. So, yes, he has an excellent chance of beating Hillary.

Now, as far as Republicans, I agree that there isn't any that presently inspire, but that could change with Gore as the opposition. The Republican candidate might not beat Gore, but I like their chances better against Gore than Hillary.

Conservatives need to realize what is as stake in this election. It's not Iraq. It's the Supreme Court. The next president may have a chance to send the court in a certain direction for many years with a couple of appointments. What our like in this country will be like will be very much determined by those two appointments to the Supreme Court. Conservatives can't afford to sit this one out or not care.

Conservatives need to realize what is as stake in this election. It's not Iraq. It's the Supreme Court. * Storming Conservative Stormy


Wow! 4000 Americans dead and over 27 thousand wounded and the polls say that over 70% of the American people want out of Iraq now! And you want the so-called Police state conservatives to focus on the Supreme Court as the final solution for all of humanity?

Why don't you really do something for the conservative republican neo-con movement and point out the main threat by Al Gore is that he is a excellent candiate for a heart attack with his Global dieting program for Polar Bears! Stormy! You need to stop viewing old blockbuster Si-Fi movies about Alien lizards kidnapping Fat Al and the Supreme Court

Stormy said:

Connie,

As usual, I have no idea what you are talking about, and like most of your posts, I don't think that you do either.

RX: Take two aspirins, go to bed for the night, and hopefully, the fever will pass by morning.

As usual, I have no idea what you are talking about, and like most of your posts, I don't think that you do either.* Stormy

That's your problem Stormy if you consider yourself retarded like Bush. I suggest another year in a vocational school and pay attention about changing the oil in your brain.

RX: Take two aspirins, go to bed for the night, and hopefully, the fever will pass by morning..* Stormy

Sorry Stormy! Can't take any medical advice from you since you are a drop out from a lower tier veterinarian school.

Doug said:

Stormy, you may be right. I don't know if conservatives will be inspired enough to support Giuliani or Romney.

A Republican president won't get a conservative Supreme Court nominee through Senate confirmation. And an "acceptable moderate" could turn out to be another Souter.

Anonymous said:

Connie,

No, I don't consider myself retarded at all, thank you for asking.

Doug,

I agree, but the essence of what I was suggesting is that if Hillary gets to nominate Supreme Court nominees to a Dem-controlled Senate, whoever she nominates would fly through. You can bet that those nominees won't be anywhere close to moderates. The Supreme Court will be safely activist liberal for decades.

Doug said:

You're right. Shows how important the Senate is.

DrFrankLives said:

He won't run, and we'll see how much of a "non factor" Edwards will be when he wins the Iowa caucuses and the air goes "pfffffffffffffffft" out of the Hillary balloon.

DrFrankLives said:

How exactly would the 5-4 radically conservative majority be altered into a "safely activist liberal" court just by Hillary's appointments?

There may be three retirements in the next presidency - all from the moderate to liberal side of the Court - Stevens (Republican, by the way) and Ginsburg, certainly. Perhaps Souter (also a Republican).

The core of the majority on the court are all young(ish) men with decades left to serve. Only Scalia is really getting up there, and if you think he'd retire under a Democratic presidency, you're high.

Doug said:

Hold on to hope until the bitter end. Edwards has lost his lead in Iowa, he's way behind in N.H., he won't win even in S.C., and he'll be totally smoked in California and Florida. He has made major miscalculations in the direction of his campaign by veering leftward. Clinton is a much better candidate and isn't likely to falter.

Jim Langer said:

Gore could win, I agree. The social conservatives won't supprt Guiliani, and are indifferent to Romney, and that sack of wet potatoes Fred Thompson continues to sleep-walk; now Huckabee is getting lots of buzz. It's a veritable mess.

Problem is, while moderate Repubs might be okay with Hillary sometimes, Gore is more clearly liberal in cast of mind. If they're smart, the powers of the Repub party will get behind Guiliani ASAP. Darn the social conservatives, and play up experience, toughness, getting hard on gangs and drugs (but maybe with stricter gun laws), etc.

The aging Boomers, though, might want a quick fix somehow on Medicare and SS. No one in the GOP has anything like a credible plan.

Everyone's looking for a Messiah here. All we got is the Romans and Pharisees.

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