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Submit, or shoot back?

I guess there are two ways to react during an armed robbery attempt.

Defend yourself. Or submit.

Most of the time, submission is safer.

It wasn't for Jennifer Vincek and Jeffrey Peck, murdered at a Statesville convenience store early Sunday.

Vincek, a 29-year-old mother of three, "did everything we ask store clerks to do during a robbery," Statesville police Chief Steve Hampton told the Record & Landmark.

"She was kneeling on the floor when the suspect shot her in the right leg and then in the head, police said," according to the newspaper report.

Peck, a customer, was shot in the chest.

In Greensboro, meanwhile, Don Le defended himself.

In that business, keeping a gun handy sounds like a good idea.


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Anonymous said:

Whether a violent criminal kills you does not depend on how well you cooperate, how much you sympathize with the plight of a misguided youth, how much love you feel in your heart for the downtrodden, or what a nice guy you are.
It's dependent on whether that criminal feels like killing you today.
You're right, Doug, you have but two choices:
1) Submit and hope for the best.
2) Defend yourself and have some control over your destiny.

jaycee said:

Above comment is mine, I hit the button before I added my name info.

Doug Johnson said:

Question? If someone knows. If someone is breaking into your house, what rights do you have? I heard in NC you must run to your bed room before you can fight back. Have no idea if this is correct.

thinker [TypeKey Profile Page] said:

It'll be soon when all of us, will be gun toting
citizens. Not because of choice. But because we will have to defend ourselves, our possessions we worked hard for, and our dignity as citizens.

Hell, I will shoot to kill an intruder if they enter my property with violent intentions. Yes, with violent
intentions. Because, to me, when they first entered my property, so showed no respect. So therefor, they had violent intentions to enter. I will shoot to kill! Make no mistakes about it!

Defend yourself first and blow the bad guys away...It's that simple....Of course if you are a bleeding heart diversity anti-2 nd amendment minded idiot, you would post a sign outside of your house that says..

WARNING!!!!!!!!!!

The owner of this property does not believe in the 2 nd amendment and refuses to have weapons on this site"

Doug said:

Here's the position of the National Association of Convenience Stores:

http://www.nacsonline.com/nacs/resource/storeoperations/weapons.htm

Basically: "Convenience store employees are trained not to resist a robber. This is because resistance equals violence. The vast majority of convenience store robberies are completed without violence ..."

Doug Johnson said:

Thinker, I tell you one thing I know for a fact. Never shoot to wound. Years ago, a man shot a man robbing him in the foot, while he was making a call to the police he explained, I only wounded him. The man was them shoot by the robber. I pray I never have to carry this cross, however there is no doubt what I do. I rather be tried by 12, than carried by 6.

Donna McDaniel said:

yes, u are right, MOST convenience store robberies are completed with non-violence, however, THIS ONE WAS NOT, AND ITS THE WORST CONVENIENCE STORE ROBBERY EVER, 3 little girls are now left with no MOTHER because she was working the night shift, when idiots seem to prey on employees working ALONE at this crazy hour of night.All she was doing was earning money for Christmas for her girls. CLOSE THE STORES DOWN FROM 12-6AM, HOW MAY ROBBERIES HAVE YOU HEARD ABOUT THAT HAPPENED DURING REGULAR STORE HOURS, WHEN THERE IS MORE PEOPLE IN THE STORE? AND HOW MANY PANIC BUTTONS ARE THERE AND WHY COULD JENNIFER NOT REACH HER PANIC BUTTON, MR. CONVENIENCE STORE PRESIDENT. LAWS TO RUN THESE STORES ALL NIGHT SHOULD BE CHANGED. PERIOD.

Donna McDaniel said:

yes, u are right, MOST convenience store robberies are completed with non-violence, however, THIS ONE WAS NOT, AND ITS THE WORST CONVENIENCE STORE ROBBERY EVER, 3 little girls are now left with no MOTHER because she was working the night shift, when idiots seem to prey on employees working ALONE at this crazy hour of night.All she was doing was earning money for Christmas for her girls. CLOSE THE STORES DOWN FROM 12-6AM, HOW MAY ROBBERIES HAVE YOU HEARD ABOUT THAT HAPPENED DURING REGULAR STORE HOURS, WHEN THERE IS MORE PEOPLE IN THE STORE? AND HOW MANY PANIC BUTTONS ARE THERE AND WHY COULD JENNIFER NOT REACH HER PANIC BUTTON, MR. CONVENIENCE STORE PRESIDENT. LAWS TO RUN THESE STORES ALL NIGHT SHOULD BE CHANGED. PERIOD.

Donna McDaniel said:

U ARE RIGHT, MOST CONVENIENCE STORE ROBBERIES DO NOT END IN VIOLENCE, THIS ONE DID AND ITS THE WORST CONVENIENT STORE ROBBERY EVER. THREE LITTLE girls are left with no Mother. A Mother has lost her only child, all for 100.00.She was shot 3 times, helpless and no recall and he just kept shooting. THESE STORES SHOULD NOT OPERATE AT NIGHT BETWEEN 12 AND 6AM. This is when the crazy, druggies are out prowling and looking for ALONE EMPLOYEES IN PLACES LIKE THIS.WHERE WAS her panic button, why did she not push it? THIS WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED DURING REGULAR WORKING HOURS WITH A STORE FULL OF PEOPLE. IS IT WORTH IT TO HAVE THESE STORES OPEN ALL NIGHT AND RISK LOSING ANOTHER FAMILY THIS WAY.THEY SHOULD ALL BE CLOSED AT NIGHT, IF THEY ARE not, then there should be protection for lone workers at this hour PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Donna McDaniel said:

U ARE RIGHT, MOST CONVENIENCE STORE ROBBERIES DO NOT END IN VIOLENCE, THIS ONE DID AND ITS THE WORST CONVENIENT STORE ROBBERY EVER. THREE LITTLE girls are left with no Mother. A Mother has lost her only child, all for 100.00.She was shot 3 times, helpless and no recall and he just kept shooting. THESE STORES SHOULD NOT OPERATE AT NIGHT BETWEEN 12 AND 6AM. This is when the crazy, druggies are out prowling and looking for ALONE EMPLOYEES IN PLACES LIKE THIS.WHERE WAS her panic button, why did she not push it? THIS WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED DURING REGULAR WORKING HOURS WITH A STORE FULL OF PEOPLE. IS IT WORTH IT TO HAVE THESE STORES OPEN ALL NIGHT AND RISK LOSING ANOTHER FAMILY THIS WAY.THEY SHOULD ALL BE CLOSED AT NIGHT, IF THEY ARE not, then there should be protection for lone workers at this hour PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Doug said:

Thanks, Donna.

It's a valid question for store owners:

What's to be gained by keeping stores open between midnight and 6 a.m., compared to what can be lost?

Donna McDaniel said:

the laws should be changed. THIS ROBBERY was horrible, NO REASON FOR IT, SHE DID ALL HE ASKED THE SHOT HER 3 TIMES LIKE SHE WAS DIRT ON THE STREET. I HOPE HE GETS HI AND I WILL BE RIGHT THERE TO M AKE SURE HE DOES.HE HAS WRECKED MANY LIVES, BUT WORSE 3 LITTLE MOTHERLESS GIRLS, FOR A 100.00.
THINGS LIKE THIS DON 'T HAPPEN ON THE DAY SHIFT, CLOSE THE STORE DOWN TIL 6AM OR GIVE THEM SECURITY AND 25 PANIC BUTTONS, THIS SHOULD NEVER BE AGAIN. THIS IS SO MESSED UP, SO SAD!

Donna McDaniel said:

the laws should be changed. THIS ROBBERY was horrible, NO REASON FOR IT, SHE DID ALL HE ASKED THE SHOT HER 3 TIMES LIKE SHE WAS DIRT ON THE STREET. I HOPE HE GETS HI AND I WILL BE RIGHT THERE TO M AKE SURE HE DOES.HE HAS WRECKED MANY LIVES, BUT WORSE 3 LITTLE MOTHERLESS GIRLS, FOR A 100.00.
THINGS LIKE THIS DON 'T HAPPEN ON THE DAY SHIFT, CLOSE THE STORE DOWN TIL 6AM OR GIVE THEM SECURITY AND 25 PANIC BUTTONS, THIS SHOULD NEVER BE AGAIN. THIS IS SO MESSED UP, SO SAD!

Donna McDaniel said:

Doug, how do u know WHAT THE POSITION IS OF THE CONVENIENCE Store association has been or will be on this kind of thing>

Donna McDaniel said:

Doug, how do u know WHAT THE POSITION IS OF THE CONVENIENCE Store association has been or will be on this kind of thing>

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